GustavBahler wrote:Wonder if Melo likes what he sees in Cleveland now? Maybe move Love to a third team for something or someone the Knicks could use.

Knicks just can use Melo or his complete absents...

GustavBahler wrote:Wonder if Melo likes what he sees in Cleveland now? Maybe move Love to a third team for something or someone the Knicks could use.

I was wondering the same thing. I'd do Frye, Shumpert and that Nets' pick for Melo and O'Quinn.

smackeddog wrote:

wargames wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:That is an amazing del for the Cavs. A total reset for a team that mortgaged everything to compete for a championship.

Not really they gave up a all star to a rival team for what I think will be a 5-7 pick, an above average roleplayer, a older PG who needs to be paid, and a prospect Big.

I still don't think this is the last move they make and I don't think they are about to reset around Lebron.

I agree- plus IT has a hip injury, those can end careers.

Still, I'm really looking forward to a cavs Celtics showdown in the playoffs

That hip injury played a huge factor in this trade. Celtics no longer have to worry about contract negotiations with a player that developed a strong celtics fans base. Injured undersized guards lose value very fast. When you are shorter than the average player, you have to use more explosive moves, so your wheels must be 100% healthy to be effective. I wouldn't be surprised if IT starts the season on injured reserve.

NardDogNation wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Wonder if Melo likes what he sees in Cleveland now? Maybe move Love to a third team for something or someone the Knicks could use.

I was wondering the same thing. I'd do Frye, Shumpert and that Nets' pick for Melo and O'Quinn.

I doubt they would do the nets pick. That's their life line if this whole thing eventually blows up. I could see Crowder, shumpert, Frye and osman for melo and o'quinn though.

As for Celtics, they have Tatum who might be a future star, and Brown developing and deserving minutes. The brilliance is not use the trade, but the roster. They have yooth emerging!!! They also have Horford, Haywood and still a nice inventory of draft picks.

I like this trade for both teams. Cav's can still compete this year with Lebron and if he leaves, they have a high draft pick to build with. It also saves them a ton of money. If Lebron leaves and Thomas is damaged they can just let him walk and still be OK.

Look, its always risky, Kylie can get hurt and the trade is a bust.

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I'd say Thomas is a notch above Kyrie but you're right that he might be damaged goods. Thomas is the better scorer. He does more damage from 3s and the FT line. He even got a bunch of MVP votes. Crowder is a very good player too. If Isaiah is healthy, this a tremendous steal for Cleveland.

This is a good trade for both teams, no one really got fleeced.

This is the kind of trade phil wanted for melo, and if melo had open up his options he would have gotten it

YUP! 😡

This could potentially be great for us because if LBJ walks, Cleveland probably trades Love and lets IT walk. Not saying I necessarily would target them but it's nice to have options

blkexec wrote:Why can't the knicks do trades like this? Cavs came off lovely.....2018 pick was the tipping point to me. That's possibly another star player.....

They traded a 29 ppg scorer at age 25. That's why the knicks don't do this.
Phil explored a big haul to trade KP.

Fact is Isiah Thomas is a 29 year old midget with a bad hip and will be a free agent, and the nets pick should be a top 3 pick, but that is not how it always works. Trade is not a bonafide home run for Clev.
I like it for both teams!!!!

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Wonder if Melo likes what he sees in Cleveland now? Maybe move Love to a third team for something or someone the Knicks could use.

I was wondering the same thing. I'd do Frye, Shumpert and that Nets' pick for Melo and O'Quinn.

I doubt they would do the nets pick. That's their life line if this whole thing eventually blows up. I could see Crowder, shumpert, Frye and osman for melo and o'quinn though.

Agreed. Nobody would ever give us a lottery pick for Melo at this stage of his career. Id be very happy with Crowder. Shumpert does get injured quite a bit but can still defend a little.

I can see it if Lebron said he'd stay. Does Gilbert parlay that pick into Melo? A chance at a second ring? To me the only way Cav's can orchestrate a soft landing is to start rebuilding. Crowder and the pick is a nice asset for a depleted franchise of youth. Thomas if healthy can light it up.
Cav's have choices now and likely won't be held hostage by LeBron again.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Wonder if Melo likes what he sees in Cleveland now? Maybe move Love to a third team for something or someone the Knicks could use.

I was wondering the same thing. I'd do Frye, Shumpert and that Nets' pick for Melo and O'Quinn.

I doubt they would do the nets pick. That's their life line if this whole thing eventually blows up. I could see Crowder, shumpert, Frye and osman for melo and o'quinn though.

Agreed. Nobody would ever give us a lottery pick for Melo at this stage of his career. Id be very happy with Crowder. Shumpert does get injured quite a bit but can still defend a little.

Agreed but why do you think the Cavs give up Crowder?