Jmpasq wrote:

nixluva wrote:

ccch wrote:Bone head move signing THJ for 20 mil more than any other offers. Just another gunner who can't shoot consistantly. When you think things can't get any worse, they do.

You realize that we'll never know how far the Hawks would've come up to match an offer so we can't say if it was $50 mil, $60 or $65. Just using the lowest number doesn't reflect how much more they would've gone up to match. That's why the Knicks did this.

But why? Why was Tim Hardaway Jr. a player they had to have at all costs. WTF is going on how can they be so out of touch with value around the league.

Talent. We need talent.

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

nixluva wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:One thing that will be nice to see if it happens, is that the Knicks for the first time in a long time will have a really young above average athleticism backcourt with Ntilikina/Hardaway. We won't have issues playing a high tempo now.

Yeah. So much BELLYACHING from jaded Knicks fans. They haven't even thought about the NEW CORE and it's possibilities as a unit.

Doesn't mean they will get enough wins right away.
But I rather invest a few years in a Ntilikina/Hardaway backcourt that has an average age of 22.5 and not much NBA experience, meaning that there is possibilty of improved play and results VS

Invest in Teague or Rose or whatever vet PG on a massive contract on his way down, with Lee who while a solid player, gives us an average age of about 30 years with most likely declining production each year.

I don't think fans realize this but we have 4 positions now where the players are either going to be on an incline or not decline

Willy (Can improve still)
KP (still far from fully reaching his potential)
Hardaway (25 and had his best year, athletic prime and best year ahead of him)
Ntilikina (A baby by NBA terms, has lots of improvements that can be made).

We need to relax and let Gains, Phil's plans be executed by Mills.
It's not that bad so far.

This is Mills plan. Phil didn't like Hardaway as a player. Phil probably brings back Rose with some/all of the money given to Tim.

Mills top adviser is Gaines
There has been little change in our plans
Two days before he was removed, Phil said he was focused on getting better wings

Next to go was Tim Hardaway, Jr., who was selfish, defenseless, and incredibly immature. In exchange, New York received the No. 19 draft pick, which translated into Jerian Grant.