CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.

I'm not sure what you don't know about what the team is doing. Pretty clear that they're going to develop and build around the young core they have drafted and that isn't very sexy. No point stating the obvious. There isn't going to be any Miami Style Super Friends or Banana Boat Reunions. You're gonna have to enjoy watching your young draft picks develop!!! No matter who we sign or trade for this is going to be a PROCESS.

Knicks1248 doesn't believe in building through the draft...he has made that pretty clear. He's entitled to his opinion BUT its obvious that building through the draft is our only real option at the moment. We aren't getting any top flight free agents at the moment and that is ok. id rather build our young core and then we can add on pieces later. We just need some patience

so it's Can't get no one to signed, can't make any trades to makes us better, can trade for future picks, i mind as well watch these young guys lose 60 to 65 games, then when KP becomes a FA and leaves this sorry roster, i can repeat the cycle again.

Who raised you, your little brother, your little sister or your parents. The vets are key to teaching the youth. It like a no brainer.

Look at the yankees this season, a prime example of youth surrounded by key relevant veterans.

And mills so busy trying to do the impossible (trade melo) he hasn't even realize every FA he reached out to never showed interest..

Gotta be honest nothing seems to make you happy. Its not like you can snap your finger and the Knicks will be good again. its gonna take time. also whether you like it or not drafting is gonna be a major part of us being good again and most people agree

So what, lose 70 games again, and that shows your current young star that your committed to winning. How about putting some legitimate NBA starters around your young core, That would be good start.

You don't seem to get it. Nobody is coming here right now that is gonna make a huge difference. for 15 years we traded numerous picks for "veterans" and became worse. Its time to continue with the youth approach

I think Mills' competence for the job s what is being discussed.

I don't see why he can see that.

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.

I'm not sure what you don't know about what the team is doing. Pretty clear that they're going to develop and build around the young core they have drafted and that isn't very sexy. No point stating the obvious. There isn't going to be any Miami Style Super Friends or Banana Boat Reunions. You're gonna have to enjoy watching your young draft picks develop!!! No matter who we sign or trade for this is going to be a PROCESS.

Knicks1248 doesn't believe in building through the draft...he has made that pretty clear. He's entitled to his opinion BUT its obvious that building through the draft is our only real option at the moment. We aren't getting any top flight free agents at the moment and that is ok. id rather build our young core and then we can add on pieces later. We just need some patience

so it's Can't get no one to signed, can't make any trades to makes us better, can trade for future picks, i mind as well watch these young guys lose 60 to 65 games, then when KP becomes a FA and leaves this sorry roster, i can repeat the cycle again.

Who raised you, your little brother, your little sister or your parents. The vets are key to teaching the youth. It like a no brainer.

Look at the yankees this season, a prime example of youth surrounded by key relevant veterans.

And mills so busy trying to do the impossible (trade melo) he hasn't even realize every FA he reached out to never showed interest..

Gotta be honest nothing seems to make you happy. Its not like you can snap your finger and the Knicks will be good again. its gonna take time. also whether you like it or not drafting is gonna be a major part of us being good again and most people agree

So what, lose 70 games again, and that shows your current young star that your committed to winning. How about putting some legitimate NBA starters around your young core, That would be good start.

You don't seem to get it. Nobody is coming here right now that is gonna make a huge difference. for 15 years we traded numerous picks for "veterans" and became worse. Its time to continue with the youth approach

Read what our youth said

“He’s the youngest MVP of the NBA history, I can learn from him,’’ Ntilikina said after missing his third straight summer league game with a knee bruise. “It would be good. He’s done a lot of things in his career. For sure it would be good. I’m not controlling what management is doing. I trust the management and the coaching staff to do what’s best for the team.’’

you don't get it, young players wanna learn from other great players who been around, who have won in this league, why you think KP wants melo around.

Is Ntilkia is going to turn to baker for advice, is kp going to turn to willy or kuz for leadership

The lakers are rebuilding, the twolves are rebuilding, the sixers are rebuilding, but their trading and signing veterans, even if they have to overpay because you need that, it is absolutely mandatory in developing youth.

Not sitting on your hands waiting for next yrs draft, then next yrs draft..Get someone in here who knows wtf they are doing.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.

I'm not sure what you don't know about what the team is doing. Pretty clear that they're going to develop and build around the young core they have drafted and that isn't very sexy. No point stating the obvious. There isn't going to be any Miami Style Super Friends or Banana Boat Reunions. You're gonna have to enjoy watching your young draft picks develop!!! No matter who we sign or trade for this is going to be a PROCESS.

Knicks1248 doesn't believe in building through the draft...he has made that pretty clear. He's entitled to his opinion BUT its obvious that building through the draft is our only real option at the moment. We aren't getting any top flight free agents at the moment and that is ok. id rather build our young core and then we can add on pieces later. We just need some patience

so it's Can't get no one to signed, can't make any trades to makes us better, can trade for future picks, i mind as well watch these young guys lose 60 to 65 games, then when KP becomes a FA and leaves this sorry roster, i can repeat the cycle again.

Who raised you, your little brother, your little sister or your parents. The vets are key to teaching the youth. It like a no brainer.

Look at the yankees this season, a prime example of youth surrounded by key relevant veterans.

And mills so busy trying to do the impossible (trade melo) he hasn't even realize every FA he reached out to never showed interest..

Gotta be honest nothing seems to make you happy. Its not like you can snap your finger and the Knicks will be good again. its gonna take time. also whether you like it or not drafting is gonna be a major part of us being good again and most people agree

So what, lose 70 games again, and that shows your current young star that your committed to winning. How about putting some legitimate NBA starters around your young core, That would be good start.

You don't seem to get it. Nobody is coming here right now that is gonna make a huge difference. for 15 years we traded numerous picks for "veterans" and became worse. Its time to continue with the youth approach

Read what our youth said

“He’s the youngest MVP of the NBA history, I can learn from him,’’ Ntilikina said after missing his third straight summer league game with a knee bruise. “It would be good. He’s done a lot of things in his career. For sure it would be good. I’m not controlling what management is doing. I trust the management and the coaching staff to do what’s best for the team.’’

you don't get it, young players wanna learn from other great players who been around, who have won in this league, why you think KP wants melo around.

Is Ntilkia is going to turn to baker for advice, is kp going to turn to willy or kuz for leadership

The lakers are rebuilding, the twolves are rebuilding, the sixers are rebuilding, but their trading and signing veterans, even if they have to overpay because you need that, it is absolutely mandatory in developing youth.

Not sitting on your hands waiting for next yrs draft, then next yrs draft..Get someone in here who knows wtf they are doing.

Once again you are missing my point. I never said they should just "sit on their hands and wait" Obviously I want them to bring in some veterans. I just dont want them to trade FIRST ROUND PICKS anymore that's all

Unfortunately we may have to if we want to keep KP around after next season, we need to get better sooner than later

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Who is this quote from? Without any reasons given for the opinion, it's not exactly useful.

The quote was from a daily news piece on the firing of grunwald when he held the position in interim.

If you remember back then, didn't he signed JR smiths brother, and sat on his hands until phil got here. The team was struggling with injuries, and never even got a legit back up for tyson with the broken leg, he knew JR was coming off knee surgery, and never had a back up. He never did anything, he just let woodson struggle to maintain with a roster that needed a face lift.

Cmon on you don't remember..

He was bad that year. He also didn't back Woodson up when JR was being a knucklehead and Shump was screaming in Woodson's face. He didn't stop Shump from playing and getting injured when he had a trade set up with the Clippers. The front office prevented Amare and Kmart from playing consecutive games and more than ten minutes a game, and Woodson was forced to keep Chris Smith instead of a big.... That year sucked.

If it wasn't for the fact that the veteran players grunwald brought in, showed pride the last 20 games, mills would be completely obsolete.

Hours after phil got fired/left, reports surface about a President search. That is a clear indication of what they truly think of him. If a person is good at what they do, they don't need no advertisement, or push to be a president, MkFrs come running to you.

Steve Mills is a (no qualifications needed) hire. In a room full of Bosses he would have no say in the matter.
He's part of the reason phil has made so many mistakes, considering he was the mouth piece.

Mills isn't a basketball mind. Woodson should have been the one to handle those situations. Woodson should have stepped up as the leader, Melo should have backed Woodson's leadership. Phil got buried by the media and fans cough cough for *stepping on Hornacek and Fisher's toes* and he was a strong basketball mind.

Dolan was working on bringing in Phil Jackson. I don't believe Mills was allowed to make any moves until Jackson took over.

Knicks put themselves in that position by all the shortsighted moves they made to build that 54 win team followed with the trade for Bargs. The only thing they could have done to save that season was trade another future first for Lowry. Knicks gridlocked themselves where they had to keep taking away from the future to maintain mediocrity.

Are you kidding me, they could have traded for lowry and gave up that pick, lowry turned into a allstar, and would have made this team much more attractive for the 2014/15 season

damn near the entire roster only had one more yr, which turned out to be the 17 win season and we would have had like 40 million in cap space. Grunwald kept the contracts at 2 to 3 yrs(and tradable ones in shump and JR)

Yeah we got kp, but we have zero legit starters around our suppose franchise player going into next season. That's not how you develop young players.

Now you want to smoke screen us into believing you're moving heaven and earth to trade Carmelo Anthony, while every decent FA gets swallowed up....

Say we traded for Lowry at the expense of the 2018 draft pick who was also a FA heading into that summer. We still aren't good enough to beat the Heat or Pacers after we maybe get into the playoffs after the poor start. We have no cap space or draft pick that off season. We would have to resign Lowry and Melo that off season. If the similar deals are handed out and Lowry's making 12 mil while Melo was making 24mil. That's 36mil out of a 63mil salary cap in 2015-16. Felton(3.7mil), Novak(3.7mil), Shumpert(2.6mil), Jr Smith(6.5) Hardaway jr(1.2mil) were all under contract for these years. Leaving the Knicks with 9.3mil in cap space for 2015-16 plus draft pick cap hold. With a decision to make on Tyson Chandler. And no draft pick going into 2018. And if Lowry-Melo make us a playoff team then no lotto pick that year in 2015-2016.

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Who is this quote from? Without any reasons given for the opinion, it's not exactly useful.

The quote was from a daily news piece on the firing of grunwald when he held the position in interim.

If you remember back then, didn't he signed JR smiths brother, and sat on his hands until phil got here. The team was struggling with injuries, and never even got a legit back up for tyson with the broken leg, he knew JR was coming off knee surgery, and never had a back up. He never did anything, he just let woodson struggle to maintain with a roster that needed a face lift.

Cmon on you don't remember..

He was bad that year. He also didn't back Woodson up when JR was being a knucklehead and Shump was screaming in Woodson's face. He didn't stop Shump from playing and getting injured when he had a trade set up with the Clippers. The front office prevented Amare and Kmart from playing consecutive games and more than ten minutes a game, and Woodson was forced to keep Chris Smith instead of a big.... That year sucked.

If it wasn't for the fact that the veteran players grunwald brought in, showed pride the last 20 games, mills would be completely obsolete.

Hours after phil got fired/left, reports surface about a President search. That is a clear indication of what they truly think of him. If a person is good at what they do, they don't need no advertisement, or push to be a president, MkFrs come running to you.

Steve Mills is a (no qualifications needed) hire. In a room full of Bosses he would have no say in the matter.
He's part of the reason phil has made so many mistakes, considering he was the mouth piece.

Mills isn't a basketball mind. Woodson should have been the one to handle those situations. Woodson should have stepped up as the leader, Melo should have backed Woodson's leadership. Phil got buried by the media and fans cough cough for *stepping on Hornacek and Fisher's toes* and he was a strong basketball mind.

Dolan was working on bringing in Phil Jackson. I don't believe Mills was allowed to make any moves until Jackson took over.

Knicks put themselves in that position by all the shortsighted moves they made to build that 54 win team followed with the trade for Bargs. The only thing they could have done to save that season was trade another future first for Lowry. Knicks gridlocked themselves where they had to keep taking away from the future to maintain mediocrity.

Are you kidding me, they could have traded for lowry and gave up that pick, lowry turned into a allstar, and would have made this team much more attractive for the 2014/15 season

damn near the entire roster only had one more yr, which turned out to be the 17 win season and we would have had like 40 million in cap space. Grunwald kept the contracts at 2 to 3 yrs(and tradable ones in shump and JR)

Yeah we got kp, but we have zero legit starters around our suppose franchise player going into next season. That's not how you develop young players.

Now you want to smoke screen us into believing you're moving heaven and earth to trade Carmelo Anthony, while every decent FA gets swallowed up....

Say we traded for Lowry at the expense of the 2018 draft pick who was also a FA heading into that summer. We still aren't good enough to beat the Heat or Pacers after we maybe get into the playoffs after the poor start. We have no cap space or draft pick that off season. We would have to resign Lowry and Melo that off season. If the similar deals are handed out and Lowry's making 12 mil while Melo was making 24mil. That's 36mil out of a 63mil salary cap in 2015-16. Felton(3.7mil), Novak(3.7mil), Shumpert(2.6mil), Jr Smith(6.5) Hardaway jr(1.2mil) were all under contract for these years. Leaving the Knicks with 9.3mil in cap space for 2015-16 plus draft pick cap hold. With a decision to make on Tyson Chandler. And no draft pick going into 2018. And if Lowry-Melo make us a playoff team then no lotto pick that year in 2015-2016.

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Who is this quote from? Without any reasons given for the opinion, it's not exactly useful.

The quote was from a daily news piece on the firing of grunwald when he held the position in interim.

If you remember back then, didn't he signed JR smiths brother, and sat on his hands until phil got here. The team was struggling with injuries, and never even got a legit back up for tyson with the broken leg, he knew JR was coming off knee surgery, and never had a back up. He never did anything, he just let woodson struggle to maintain with a roster that needed a face lift.

Cmon on you don't remember..

He was bad that year. He also didn't back Woodson up when JR was being a knucklehead and Shump was screaming in Woodson's face. He didn't stop Shump from playing and getting injured when he had a trade set up with the Clippers. The front office prevented Amare and Kmart from playing consecutive games and more than ten minutes a game, and Woodson was forced to keep Chris Smith instead of a big.... That year sucked.

If it wasn't for the fact that the veteran players grunwald brought in, showed pride the last 20 games, mills would be completely obsolete.

Hours after phil got fired/left, reports surface about a President search. That is a clear indication of what they truly think of him. If a person is good at what they do, they don't need no advertisement, or push to be a president, MkFrs come running to you.

Steve Mills is a (no qualifications needed) hire. In a room full of Bosses he would have no say in the matter.
He's part of the reason phil has made so many mistakes, considering he was the mouth piece.

Mills isn't a basketball mind. Woodson should have been the one to handle those situations. Woodson should have stepped up as the leader, Melo should have backed Woodson's leadership. Phil got buried by the media and fans cough cough for *stepping on Hornacek and Fisher's toes* and he was a strong basketball mind.

Dolan was working on bringing in Phil Jackson. I don't believe Mills was allowed to make any moves until Jackson took over.

Knicks put themselves in that position by all the shortsighted moves they made to build that 54 win team followed with the trade for Bargs. The only thing they could have done to save that season was trade another future first for Lowry. Knicks gridlocked themselves where they had to keep taking away from the future to maintain mediocrity.

Woodson wasn't allowed to decide who made his roster that year. Woodson desperately needed another big but was forced to give the last spot to Chris Smith. He was only allowed to play Amare and KMart ten minutes everyother day. When Smith and Shumpert were disrespecting Woodson the front office didn't step in and trade either guy. Woodson eventually suspended JR. There also was the game where JR just passed because he was asked to move the ball more. That team had won 54 games the previous season. At that time the Lowry trade made some sense. Also, allowing Shump to play and hurt himself right before the deadline wen you had a deal in principal was dumb. Mills had a very bad year as pres.

Mills is a yes man, and to be real Woodson was as well. I don't believe that Mills was the one who made those decisions you mentioned. I really don't know what Mills brings to the table other than administrative work. I am not arguing that he is a good or bad president. What I am saying is that we in a crappy situation going forward with the only way to maintain putting a productive product on the floor was to continue to surrender future assets. Lowry may have made sense at the time for the short term but long term I don't see it. We don't even know if he would have been willing to resign with us. And if he did based on our contract situations we would have been locked in with a pretty mediocre group. Cap space wasn't going to save us and turn us into a contender. Hitting on multiple picks that turn into Jimmy Butler's Kawhi's Curry's would.

This entire roster is worthless other than kp, and any smart prez is going to come in here and tear it down from top to bottom.

nyknickzingis wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Who is this quote from? Without any reasons given for the opinion, it's not exactly useful.

The quote was from a daily news piece on the firing of grunwald when he held the position in interim.

If you remember back then, didn't he signed JR smiths brother, and sat on his hands until phil got here. The team was struggling with injuries, and never even got a legit back up for tyson with the broken leg, he knew JR was coming off knee surgery, and never had a back up. He never did anything, he just let woodson struggle to maintain with a roster that needed a face lift.

Cmon on you don't remember..

He was bad that year. He also didn't back Woodson up when JR was being a knucklehead and Shump was screaming in Woodson's face. He didn't stop Shump from playing and getting injured when he had a trade set up with the Clippers. The front office prevented Amare and Kmart from playing consecutive games and more than ten minutes a game, and Woodson was forced to keep Chris Smith instead of a big.... That year sucked.

If it wasn't for the fact that the veteran players grunwald brought in, showed pride the last 20 games, mills would be completely obsolete.

Hours after phil got fired/left, reports surface about a President search. That is a clear indication of what they truly think of him. If a person is good at what they do, they don't need no advertisement, or push to be a president, MkFrs come running to you.

Steve Mills is a (no qualifications needed) hire. In a room full of Bosses he would have no say in the matter.
He's part of the reason phil has made so many mistakes, considering he was the mouth piece.

Mills isn't a basketball mind. Woodson should have been the one to handle those situations. Woodson should have stepped up as the leader, Melo should have backed Woodson's leadership. Phil got buried by the media and fans cough cough for *stepping on Hornacek and Fisher's toes* and he was a strong basketball mind.

Dolan was working on bringing in Phil Jackson. I don't believe Mills was allowed to make any moves until Jackson took over.

Knicks put themselves in that position by all the shortsighted moves they made to build that 54 win team followed with the trade for Bargs. The only thing they could have done to save that season was trade another future first for Lowry. Knicks gridlocked themselves where they had to keep taking away from the future to maintain mediocrity.

Woodson wasn't allowed to decide who made his roster that year. Woodson desperately needed another big but was forced to give the last spot to Chris Smith. He was only allowed to play Amare and KMart ten minutes everyother day. When Smith and Shumpert were disrespecting Woodson the front office didn't step in and trade either guy. Woodson eventually suspended JR. There also was the game where JR just passed because he was asked to move the ball more. That team had won 54 games the previous season. At that time the Lowry trade made some sense. Also, allowing Shump to play and hurt himself right before the deadline wen you had a deal in principal was dumb. Mills had a very bad year as pres.

Mills is a yes man, and to be real Woodson was as well. I don't believe that Mills was the one who made those decisions you mentioned. I really don't know what Mills brings to the table other than administrative work. I am not arguing that he is a good or bad president. What I am saying is that we in a crappy situation going forward with the only way to maintain putting a productive product on the floor was to continue to surrender future assets. Lowry may have made sense at the time for the short term but long term I don't see it. We don't even know if he would have been willing to resign with us. And if he did based on our contract situations we would have been locked in with a pretty mediocre group. Cap space wasn't going to save us and turn us into a contender. Hitting on multiple picks that turn into Jimmy Butler's Kawhi's Curry's would.

This entire roster is worthless other than kp, and any smart prez is going to come in here and tear it down from top to bottom.

Willy Gomez made first team all-rookie meaning he was a top 5 rookie last year. He would easily fetch a top 15 draft pick or a young starter right now via trade. That is not trash.

Ntilikina is a number 8 pick, but we have to see what his level and ability is. I wouldn't call him trash at all. He was widely seen as a top 10 pick who had potential to go higher if he worked out for teams, which he did not.

CLee is a top 30 three point shooter in the league, a solid defender and makes a reasonable 12$M a year. He is a two way guy and can give a team 10 points a night with some 3 point shots and D.

Melo is a HOF player who still made the all-star team. He is still a top 25 player in the league.

I don't think there's too much depth to our talent, but we have much more than just KP.

I'd say the talent on this team that has league wide value is

Porzingis - 2 lottery picks, 1 starter (Phil checked this)
Melo - Because of NTC, value lower than it is, but has value of a starter and a draft pick
Hernangomez - Easily gets you a top 15 draft pick or a young starter
CLee - Worth a first round pick and easy contract to move
Ntilikina - top 10 lottey talent, youngest player in the NBA right now

So sorry, the Knicks top 5 is far from trash. If we had a good bench of veterans that can play, if Melo was on board with the team's plan and willing to play a Dad Melo role, I think this team would make the playoffs next year.

If we played at least halfway great defense..I would agree 100%

Its definitely the right course of action at the moment, but I do wonder whether it's due to a strategy or if he just can't execute moves- hopefully the former!

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:If this article is true, Mills is on the right track. I still would prefer that he was made president and someone else perform the GM duties, with a better track record. This change in direction would show that Mills has learned something since his last time as president. Pair him with a good GM, and the Knicks could go places.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/knicks-could-tank-to-land-this-likely-no-1-pick-in-18-nba-draft/

According to multiple sources who have spoken to members of the organization, Knicks acting president Steve Mills is all in for a youth movement, except at point guard, where they are attempting to find a veteran mentor for 18-year-old Frenchman Frank Ntilikina.

“The focus is on young players, but they still need some veteran presence,’’ said one team executive who has spoken to Knicks officials. “They’re waiting to see where there are good young players that would take shorter deals. The focus is definitely on building around young guys.’’

The timing isn’t great — four straight years out of the playoffs before contemplating a complete rebuild. But they are stuck in between, with a share of veterans, but not a roster good enough to do anything beyond an eighth seed at very best. Hence, the attempt to trade Carmelo Anthony, 33, even after Phil Jackson’s ouster.

Dormant in free agency across the first four days, Mills even let their 29-year-old backup shooting guard Justin Holiday skip away on a two-year, $9 million pact. The Knicks didn’t have to eat 2017 cap space to re-sign him because of the Bird exception. But Mills didn’t want Holiday stealing away 2018 space.

Mills is in Orlando, looking at possibly clearing the decks for 2018 and 2019 free agency, according to sources.

If free agency dries up for the Knicks (they still are in the forward mix for Phoenix’s Alan Williams and San Antonio’s Jonathan Simmons, a pair of restricted free agents), a league source said they would look at a trade to fill in their cap space.

The Knicks aren’t handing out lavish multi-year deals and reportedly don’t want to take on any long-term contracts, such as Ryan Anderson’s (three years, $60 million left) in an Anthony trade with the Rockets. Therefore, a deal with Houston would require three to four teams.

“If the Knicks are going to win 35 games next season, might as well do it with young players, fill the roster out with young guys,’’ said one NBA source who has talked to the Knicks.

Unless its a no-brainer, the Knicks shouldn't be gearing for any FA class until they are able to start winning with the draft picks and viewed as an up and coming team by the FA market.

I wonder what they mean by fill in their space with a trade. Does that mean eat a contract for a pick or 2?

Im of the same mind about the Knicks using their recent draft picks to build a team worth going to. They cant do that if the roster has too many older vets taking up roster space. If it is true that Mills is looking for a veteran PG, it shows that its not a full blown tank which Im against. Im for trying to unload the albatross contracts like Noah and Melo, but not for more long term crapola.

Not sure what he meant about filling cap space, maybe a deal that uses all their remaining cap space for this upcoming season.