For another, NY Media will be happy. They have their wars to fight as well. Every reporter has to prove his worth by getting some inside info. Woj is a terrible writer and he is wildly successful because he is a merchant of information. NY media will be very nice to Mills just because of that.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/steve-mills-good-start-knicks-top-decision-mak-article-1.3296144

The Steve Mills era is off to an impressive start. How so? Because he’s done nothing.

There is a genius to Mills’ lack of production in free agency less than a week after replacing Phil Jackson as the Knicks top basketball decision-maker.

As in no crazy contracts to broken down players or veterans coming here not to play but looking to experience New York life in the twilight of their careers.

Look at this. Isola is already praising him doing nothing. If it was Phil, he would write something like horrible lolknicks no one wants to come.

NY media has played us like a fool, and they will still do the same. They don't care Phil or Melo or knicks or anything for a bit. They only care for themselves.

CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:One thing I notice is that now NY Media knows every move Knicks are going to do. Phil held everything tight, but now leaks are everywhere.

Aside from Walsh, the Knicks have always been non media friendly. I wonder who is leaking info. I remember when Layden was running things there was a guy on realgm that would scoop trades shortly before they would happen.

CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:Probably Mills. This will be good for him. For one, it will look like he tried hard but FA didn't come. It is not his fault.

For another, NY Media will be happy. They have their wars to fight as well. Every reporter has to prove his worth by getting some inside info. Woj is a terrible writer and he is wildly successful because he is a merchant of information. NY media will be very nice to Mills just because of that.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/steve-mills-good-start-knicks-top-decision-mak-article-1.3296144

The Steve Mills era is off to an impressive start. How so? Because he’s done nothing.

There is a genius to Mills’ lack of production in free agency less than a week after replacing Phil Jackson as the Knicks top basketball decision-maker.

As in no crazy contracts to broken down players or veterans coming here not to play but looking to experience New York life in the twilight of their careers.

Look at this. Isola is already praising him doing nothing. If it was Phil, he would write something like horrible lolknicks no one wants to come.

NY media has played us like a fool, and they will still do the same. They don't care Phil or Melo or knicks or anything for a bit. They only care for themselves.

CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:One thing I notice is that now NY Media knows every move Knicks are going to do. Phil held everything tight, but now leaks are everywhere.

Aside from Walsh, the Knicks have always been non media friendly. I wonder who is leaking info. I remember when Layden was running things there was a guy on realgm that would scoop trades shortly before they would happen.

It's funny, someone was asked what will the Knicks do in free agency. He replied withba question, who is the oldest, most injury prone big man that is a fee agent? Glad they didn't go that route again. I am concerned about the point guard spot. Collision just signed with the Pacers. That leaves Mack and Rose for thevKnicks.

Mack, Rose, Hill or Teodosic. Rodriguez too. Or possibly Corey Joseph in a trade. Who knows who else that we haven't thought of? Where's Travis Trice?
Or as Briggs has mentioned, Bledsoe who clicked for Horny before.

Honestly, I don't think you can't remember he is the only one.

It is not funny.

And forget Rose. He probably is not coming back.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246728/Derrick-Rose-Wants-To-Be-In-Milwaukee

Derrick Rose met with the Milwaukee Bucks about a possible deal on Monday.

Rose "wants to be in Milwaukee," according to a source close to him.

Rose met with Jason Kidd and Jon Horst, amongst others.

The Bucks would need to clear salary in order to sign Rose.

Before we say "Thank god, we don't want him anyway", think about something.

Do you know who his agent is?

B.J Armstrong.

(He) is an American retired professional basketball player. Armstrong won three NBA championships during his career as a point guard for the Chicago Bulls. (wiki)

He is Phil's guy. He fought battle with him. He left just because GSW took him via expansion draft. He kept saying Rose wanted to be here until Phil was fired. Then he is silent. Do we really think he wants Rose to be here now? And he is not some kind of rookie agent.

He also serves as an agent for Draymond Green, Bismack Biyombo, Donatas Motiejūnas, JaVale McGee,[4] Denzel Valentine, and Josh Jackson. (wiki)

Yeah, that Josh Jackson.

And Derrick Rose, I don't need to remind anyone he is coming from Chicago, right? And Phil won six champion there. Before last season started, Rose talked about Phil. He said something like "can you believe that? It is Phil Jackson. He gave me his phone number." He talked like he was a teenager girl meeting her idol first time.

We fired Phil and thought we have a great chance to resign him? Yeah, Rose has a bad reason, BUT it is not that bad. He is still unstoppable 1-on-1 and he is 28. The only advantage we have is that we can sign-and-trade him because we can give him 5 years. But the problem is that does he want a 5 year contract when his stock is lowest and he is still 28? He probably wants 1+1 (player option) and tries his luck next year. We can only hope Buck can't clear enough the cap to sign him so at least it can give us something in return.

I forgot to reply the stuff about Ndour. Yeah we cut him now and can resign him later, but the problem is that he is 25 and Gaines was famous because of that KP pick. This move is very risky. Any team which has a space to spare probably take a chance on a young dude who was recommended by this Gaines. I mean, every team in NBA actually has a lot of scrubs they hope to develop. If a GM wants to try his luck on a scrub, why doesn't he try his luck on a scrub once recommended by Gaines Jr? Remember what happened to Galloway? Sure knicks is very confident, or it doesn't want to resign him at all.

CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:Probably Mills. This will be good for him. For one, it will look like he tried hard but FA didn't come. It is not his fault.

For another, NY Media will be happy. They have their wars to fight as well. Every reporter has to prove his worth by getting some inside info. Woj is a terrible writer and he is wildly successful because he is a merchant of information. NY media will be very nice to Mills just because of that.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/steve-mills-good-start-knicks-top-decision-mak-article-1.3296144

The Steve Mills era is off to an impressive start. How so? Because he’s done nothing.

There is a genius to Mills’ lack of production in free agency less than a week after replacing Phil Jackson as the Knicks top basketball decision-maker.

As in no crazy contracts to broken down players or veterans coming here not to play but looking to experience New York life in the twilight of their careers.

Look at this. Isola is already praising him doing nothing. If it was Phil, he would write something like horrible lolknicks no one wants to come.

NY media has played us like a fool, and they will still do the same. They don't care Phil or Melo or knicks or anything for a bit. They only care for themselves.

CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:One thing I notice is that now NY Media knows every move Knicks are going to do. Phil held everything tight, but now leaks are everywhere.

Aside from Walsh, the Knicks have always been non media friendly. I wonder who is leaking info. I remember when Layden was running things there was a guy on realgm that would scoop trades shortly before they would happen.

It's funny, someone was asked what will the Knicks do in free agency. He replied withba question, who is the oldest, most injury prone big man that is a fee agent? Glad they didn't go that route again. I am concerned about the point guard spot. Collision just signed with the Pacers. That leaves Mack and Rose for thevKnicks.

I mean, if you want to say yeah FO now is doing good job by failing to sign ANYONE, then it is all fine. (If Ndour doesn't count then I assume that you would not count another undrafted player Baker, right?)

I am fine because I understand what it means. If this FO is worse then it means Phil was better then it would kill you to admit that. Knicks can actually worse then they were. Phil has to be wrong because he was supposed to be the arch-enemy of Melo. This is why I said knicks fans are divided. Even though we sign 31 years old George Hill for 5years/150mil, someone would defend it because it is not Phil. I mean who cares about Phil? A knicks fan should love knicks more than he loves Melo. I mean seriously, be an honest man. Phil has done good more than bad. He didn't ruin Knicks. He did ruin the career of Melo. It is his fault, but Melo =/= Knicks. It is just like Phil =/= Knicks.

And about trolling. Everyone has the right to troll. But what is trolling? it means turning something bad to worse. Its purpose is not about finding out the truth. Its purpose is not about valuing objectively. Its purpose is not about being honest. If you know you were trolling or Isola were trolling, it is all I can ask for.

I have been a lurker for a while. It is always like that.

Someone "Phil has done something wrong. But it is not all negative."

Melo fans "Oh, another Phil apologist. In their eyes, Phil cannot be wrong. "

I mean, seriously, who said Noah is good signing? who said Phil was very good at tweeting? He is too old to understand fully the difference between public and private communication. Sometimes he was stupid. He was too trusting to Dolan/Melo/Mills.

I can go on and on. But the point is that no one is arguing he has done something wrong. People has said he actually has done a lot of things right. Has some good =/= has no wrong.

I don't want to turn it about Melo vs Phil again. It is already enough. It is not necessary. Phil is gone forever. He is too old, and as a smart dude he probably would not want to work for Dolan second time.

mlby1215 wrote:It is not that Ndour is a superstar but the fact he still has some POTENTIAL values. Dallas cut him because they didn't have space but are we the same? We can always argue that if it is SUPER smart move and I am not here to judge it. I am just saying that if the reason is about basketball, then the reason is not very strong and I explained it.

I mean, if you want to say yeah FO now is doing good job by failing to sign ANYONE, then it is all fine. (If Ndour doesn't count then I assume that you would not count another undrafted player Baker, right?)

I am fine because I understand what it means. If this FO is worse then it means Phil was better then it would kill you to admit that. Knicks can actually worse then they were. Phil has to be wrong because he was supposed to be the arch-enemy of Melo. This is why I said knicks fans are divided. Even though we sign 31 years old George Hill for 5years/150mil, someone would defend it because it is not Phil. I mean who cares about Phil? A knicks fan should love knicks more than he loves Melo. I mean seriously, be an honest man. Phil has done good more than bad. He didn't ruin Knicks. He did ruin the career of Melo. It is his fault, but Melo =/= Knicks. It is just like Phil =/= Knicks.

And about trolling. Everyone has the right to troll. But what is trolling? it means turning something bad to worse. Its purpose is not about finding out the truth. Its purpose is not about valuing objectively. Its purpose is not about being honest. If you know you were trolling or Isola were trolling, it is all I can ask for.

I have been a lurker for a while. It is always like that.

Someone "Phil has done something wrong. But it is not all negative."

Melo fans "Oh, another Phil apologist. In their eyes, Phil cannot be wrong. "

I mean, seriously, who said Noah is good signing? who said Phil was very good at tweeting? He is too old to understand fully the difference between public and private communication. Sometimes he was stupid. He was too trusting to Dolan/Melo/Mills.

I can go on and on. But the point is that no one is arguing he has done something wrong. People has said he actually has done a lot of things right. Has some good =/= has no wrong.

I don't want to turn it about Melo vs Phil again. It is already enough. It is not necessary. Phil is gone forever. He is too old, and as a smart dude he probably would not want to work for Dolan second time.

The front office could be worse. It's not like that hasn't happened before. One of the scariest things about Phil leaving is the next guy could be much worse. I just don't think that someone who is not good at their job should get to keep it because ownership might hire someone even worse.

In regards to Ndour, we disagree. Gaines and the scouting team are going to bring in players hoping to make the team every year. If a guy like that makes the team hopefully he is signed to a deal like Ndour's. The team is protected if the guy is a keeper and their protected if he isn't. I think Holiday being allowed to leave on a very reasonable deal is much more troubling if you are seeing things that way. Holiday is a rotation player and those guys are much harder to find.