GustavBahler wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:What can Ryan Anderson get us from a 3rd team?

Good question. His 3pt shooting might come in handy for a contender.

Last I heard teams wanted the rockets to give them 2 first for Anderson..... so zilch is what we'll get for him

You mean the rockets want two 1st round picks? Anderson still shoots the three well, thats what teams are looking for these days, but that deal of his....

No teams told the Rockets they had to give give them two 1st round picks for them to take on Andersons contract.

They've ALL made the same offer? Wow.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246554/Teams-Were-Seeking-Two-First-Rounders-From-Rockets-For-Ryan-Anderson

That's the report

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:What can Ryan Anderson get us from a 3rd team?

Good question. His 3pt shooting might come in handy for a contender.

Last I heard teams wanted the rockets to give them 2 first for Anderson..... so zilch is what we'll get for him

You mean the rockets want two 1st round picks? Anderson still shoots the three well, thats what teams are looking for these days, but that deal of his....

No teams told the Rockets they had to give give them two 1st round picks for them to take on Andersons contract.

They've ALL made the same offer? Wow.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246554/Teams-Were-Seeking-Two-First-Rounders-From-Rockets-For-Ryan-Anderson

That's the report

Thanks, weird that they all asked for the same thing. After what they gave up for Paul, I doubt they go for it.

Jmpasq wrote:I don't want to buyout Melo but he already has ruined Porzingis the thought of him destroying Frank and whoever we draft next year too makes me sick

nyknickzingis wrote:Melo wants a buy out, he needs to give up the entire option year and some money this season. Say if they agree to a buy out of $20M, then stretched over a few years, that gives the Knicks some serious cap this summer. They could make a play for a max level free agent. I'd target restricted free agents via trade and find a team or situation where a player's team is looking for a star and can't afford to keep their RFA. Last year Mavs got Barnes this way.

Tell Melo simply. You want a buy out. Give up the option year money (as you would be opting out in a year anyway). And give up a few $M this season. If you want to deal with a 20$M buy out, I'd do it if I were the Knicks, assuming the trade market is really bad for Melo.

I may be mistaken but I thought even with a buyout the salary would still count against the cap. The benefit was just to avoid paying someone the full salary to play elsewhere. Can someone confirm?

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fwk00 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:MDA and Melo back together again. That would be interesting to say the least...

That would mean MDA is on the way out.

MDA just won Coach of the Year and somebody thinks he will dance another dance with Melo. Houston will be looking for a new coach soon if that's the case.

MDA is a smart man. Melo is not.

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im guessing Ryan Anderson would be involved. Read that they're trying to move him. This is their draft situation..

First Round

2018 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC

2019 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2020 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2021 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2022 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2023 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2024 - To LAC if not already settled

Second Round

2018 - To PHL; least favorable of CHA, MEM and MIA (via MEM)

2019 - Most favorable of HOU, ORL, CLE and POR to ORL; two least favorable of HOU, ORL and CLE to NYK; less favorable of (i) POR and (ii) most favorable of HOU, ORL and CLE to DET (via ORL swap for CLE or HOU (via CLE and HOU to NYK); via POR to ORL to DET)

2020 - Own

2021 - Own

2022 - Own

2023 - Own

2024 - Own

Thanks for the leg work. Would have to be Ryan Anderson and Ariza since Melo makes 26mil +TK and Anderson makes 19.

Forward Anderson to Minny for Rubio
Forward Anderson to Utah for Favors
Forward Anderson to Denver for Faried
Forward Anderson to Mavs for Matthews and pick

I would love to get Ariza, always liked him.

Cant believe Aria is still in the league, and a good role player. Like he discovered the fountain of youth. Been in the league a long time.

I wonder if he is still delusional?

I vaguely remember that quote, lol. You're going to have to refresh my my memory.

With James activated, Ariza could be deactivated. Brown is furious Ariza raised the issue Monday that a lack of communication existed and “confusion” reigned in the locker room.

Ariza, 20, was angered Brown told the beat writers before he told him of his demotion.

“Every other coach has [spoken to him] a number of times,” Brown said. “He’s just delusional. Things get over fast with me. It’s what you do in practice every day. To say he doesn’t know what’s going on, he’s delusional.”

Brown questioned the UCLA product’s attitude.

“It has nothing to do with how he’s playing,” he said. “It has nothing to do with basketball. He’s just got to grow up a little and understand it’s a team and he’s got to act like a good teammate.

“Sometimes when they hear it from me, that’s just coach,” Brown said. “We got five other [coaches] that have visited with him privately. And he heard something pretty specific from me before the game. If he doesn’t know, it’s because UCLA wasn’t a good academic institution.”

Brown coached the Bruins from 1979-1981.

Ariza, last season’s golden-boy rookie, said, “He just wanted the most out of me. He didn’t feel I was giving him everything I had. Everyone has their own opinion.”

The latest feuds involving Brown, Ariza and James underscore a deeper issue of whether Brown is motivating or turning off the players.

Brown’s brutal honesty hasn’t thrilled Isiah Thomas. When last week’s Stephon Marbury war erupted, Isiah told Brown to ease up. But Brown, 65, will do what he wants, and was stunned he had to take a media-training class in preseason

Crazy how similar the circumstances are today.

Thats it. Yup, one big happy family!

I hope Dolan does an honest to goodness search this time for the best pres. Not those consultants who suggested that Mills should be the GM. I wouldnt mind Mills going back to being president if Gaines got promoted to GM though. Would be nice to see someone in-house earn the job. From what I've read he is a free thinker, not a company man. Might rule him out, but I would prefer Gaines to a celebrity hire.

Yes. Yes. The recursive "next" guy or gal will succeed in an environment dictated by hyenas in the press and in the stands. What could stop them? Yet another marketing consultant whispering in Dolan's ear?

Gaines is already a VP. Once Phil lands he will follow Phil and two year's later (like MDA) they will be voted executives of the year for turning around a franchise not called the New York Knicks.

There is no longer a firewall between management of the team and Dolan.

Welcome back to hell. Get cozy. You ain't going nowhere.

fwk00 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im guessing Ryan Anderson would be involved. Read that they're trying to move him. This is their draft situation..

First Round

2018 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC

2019 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2020 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2021 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2022 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2023 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2024 - To LAC if not already settled

Second Round

2018 - To PHL; least favorable of CHA, MEM and MIA (via MEM)

2019 - Most favorable of HOU, ORL, CLE and POR to ORL; two least favorable of HOU, ORL and CLE to NYK; less favorable of (i) POR and (ii) most favorable of HOU, ORL and CLE to DET (via ORL swap for CLE or HOU (via CLE and HOU to NYK); via POR to ORL to DET)

2020 - Own

2021 - Own

2022 - Own

2023 - Own

2024 - Own

Thanks for the leg work. Would have to be Ryan Anderson and Ariza since Melo makes 26mil +TK and Anderson makes 19.

Forward Anderson to Minny for Rubio
Forward Anderson to Utah for Favors
Forward Anderson to Denver for Faried
Forward Anderson to Mavs for Matthews and pick

I would love to get Ariza, always liked him.

Cant believe Aria is still in the league, and a good role player. Like he discovered the fountain of youth. Been in the league a long time.

I wonder if he is still delusional?

I vaguely remember that quote, lol. You're going to have to refresh my my memory.

With James activated, Ariza could be deactivated. Brown is furious Ariza raised the issue Monday that a lack of communication existed and “confusion” reigned in the locker room.

Ariza, 20, was angered Brown told the beat writers before he told him of his demotion.

“Every other coach has [spoken to him] a number of times,” Brown said. “He’s just delusional. Things get over fast with me. It’s what you do in practice every day. To say he doesn’t know what’s going on, he’s delusional.”

Brown questioned the UCLA product’s attitude.

“It has nothing to do with how he’s playing,” he said. “It has nothing to do with basketball. He’s just got to grow up a little and understand it’s a team and he’s got to act like a good teammate.

“Sometimes when they hear it from me, that’s just coach,” Brown said. “We got five other [coaches] that have visited with him privately. And he heard something pretty specific from me before the game. If he doesn’t know, it’s because UCLA wasn’t a good academic institution.”

Brown coached the Bruins from 1979-1981.

Ariza, last season’s golden-boy rookie, said, “He just wanted the most out of me. He didn’t feel I was giving him everything I had. Everyone has their own opinion.”

The latest feuds involving Brown, Ariza and James underscore a deeper issue of whether Brown is motivating or turning off the players.

Brown’s brutal honesty hasn’t thrilled Isiah Thomas. When last week’s Stephon Marbury war erupted, Isiah told Brown to ease up. But Brown, 65, will do what he wants, and was stunned he had to take a media-training class in preseason

Crazy how similar the circumstances are today.

Thats it. Yup, one big happy family!

I hope Dolan does an honest to goodness search this time for the best pres. Not those consultants who suggested that Mills should be the GM. I wouldnt mind Mills going back to being president if Gaines got promoted to GM though. Would be nice to see someone in-house earn the job. From what I've read he is a free thinker, not a company man. Might rule him out, but I would prefer Gaines to a celebrity hire.

Yes. Yes. The recursive "next" guy or gal will succeed in an environment dictated by hyenas in the press and in the stands. What could stop them? Yet another marketing consultant whispering in Dolan's ear?

Gaines is already a VP. Once Phil lands he will follow Phil and two year's later (like MDA) they will be voted executives of the year for turning around a franchise not called the New York Knicks.

There is no longer a firewall between management of the team and Dolan.

Welcome back to hell. Get cozy. You ain't going nowhere.

You're the one in hell, Im glad Phil is gone. Sucks to be you I guess...

fwk00 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im guessing Ryan Anderson would be involved. Read that they're trying to move him. This is their draft situation..

First Round

2018 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC

2019 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2020 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2021 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2022 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2023 - 1-3 Own; 4-30 to LAC if not already settled

2024 - To LAC if not already settled

Second Round

2018 - To PHL; least favorable of CHA, MEM and MIA (via MEM)

2019 - Most favorable of HOU, ORL, CLE and POR to ORL; two least favorable of HOU, ORL and CLE to NYK; less favorable of (i) POR and (ii) most favorable of HOU, ORL and CLE to DET (via ORL swap for CLE or HOU (via CLE and HOU to NYK); via POR to ORL to DET)

2020 - Own

2021 - Own

2022 - Own

2023 - Own

2024 - Own

Thanks for the leg work. Would have to be Ryan Anderson and Ariza since Melo makes 26mil +TK and Anderson makes 19.

Forward Anderson to Minny for Rubio
Forward Anderson to Utah for Favors
Forward Anderson to Denver for Faried
Forward Anderson to Mavs for Matthews and pick

I would love to get Ariza, always liked him.

Cant believe Aria is still in the league, and a good role player. Like he discovered the fountain of youth. Been in the league a long time.

I wonder if he is still delusional?

I vaguely remember that quote, lol. You're going to have to refresh my my memory.

With James activated, Ariza could be deactivated. Brown is furious Ariza raised the issue Monday that a lack of communication existed and “confusion” reigned in the locker room.

Ariza, 20, was angered Brown told the beat writers before he told him of his demotion.

“Every other coach has [spoken to him] a number of times,” Brown said. “He’s just delusional. Things get over fast with me. It’s what you do in practice every day. To say he doesn’t know what’s going on, he’s delusional.”

Brown questioned the UCLA product’s attitude.

“It has nothing to do with how he’s playing,” he said. “It has nothing to do with basketball. He’s just got to grow up a little and understand it’s a team and he’s got to act like a good teammate.

“Sometimes when they hear it from me, that’s just coach,” Brown said. “We got five other [coaches] that have visited with him privately. And he heard something pretty specific from me before the game. If he doesn’t know, it’s because UCLA wasn’t a good academic institution.”

Brown coached the Bruins from 1979-1981.

Ariza, last season’s golden-boy rookie, said, “He just wanted the most out of me. He didn’t feel I was giving him everything I had. Everyone has their own opinion.”

The latest feuds involving Brown, Ariza and James underscore a deeper issue of whether Brown is motivating or turning off the players.

Brown’s brutal honesty hasn’t thrilled Isiah Thomas. When last week’s Stephon Marbury war erupted, Isiah told Brown to ease up. But Brown, 65, will do what he wants, and was stunned he had to take a media-training class in preseason

Crazy how similar the circumstances are today.

Thats it. Yup, one big happy family!

I hope Dolan does an honest to goodness search this time for the best pres. Not those consultants who suggested that Mills should be the GM. I wouldnt mind Mills going back to being president if Gaines got promoted to GM though. Would be nice to see someone in-house earn the job. From what I've read he is a free thinker, not a company man. Might rule him out, but I would prefer Gaines to a celebrity hire.

President is more powerful than GM, right? So you'd rather see Mills and Dolan be the two most powerful people in the organization?

Mills (as Phil said) mostly does paperwork. Phil had an oversized role in the decision making process. Thats why other execs allegedly tried to talk to Phil on the phone, not Mills.

The GM role was effectively neutered. Ideally I would want Gaines to make the call on trades, drafting, etc. and Mills doing what he can as pres to help the GM get what he wants to build a contender.

Gaines strength is not as a GM. You are applying the Peter Principle to Knicks management by asking that people who are good at one thing must be great at another. You must be the guy advising Dolan.

You dont know if he could handle the job or not, you're just guessing like everyone else. He is one of the few execs who has shined for the Knicks, he's earned a chance to show what he can do at he next level, running a team.