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GoNyGoNyGo
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4/17/2017  9:17 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.

They each have 2 years left, so that wouldn't work would it?

If he stays, Cut him. Addition by Subtraction.
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4/17/2017  9:37 AM
Melo isnt getting cut. Worst case is Knicks take Rivers and Crawford. More likely is Clippers find a place for Jamal and send us Rivers and some crappy draft pick
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4/17/2017  12:01 PM
Seriously, why not cut him?

Anthony finished the 2016-17 regular season at No. 418 in the NBA in Defensive Real Plus-Minus. It’s also worth noting that the Knicks allowed 111.1 points per 100 possessions with the 10-time All-Star on the floor.

Of the players who were on the court for at least 1,000 minutes in 2016-17, no player on the Knicks had a worse defensive rating than Anthony.

By comparison, the Knicks had a team-best defensive rating of 104.7 points per 100 possessions with Anthony on the bench. That’s a difference of 6.4 points per 100 possessions, as well as a telling sign of his influence on the defensive end of the floor.
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4/17/2017  12:09 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Seriously, why not cut him?

Anthony finished the 2016-17 regular season at No. 418 in the NBA in Defensive Real Plus-Minus. It’s also worth noting that the Knicks allowed 111.1 points per 100 possessions with the 10-time All-Star on the floor.

Of the players who were on the court for at least 1,000 minutes in 2016-17, no player on the Knicks had a worse defensive rating than Anthony.

By comparison, the Knicks had a team-best defensive rating of 104.7 points per 100 possessions with Anthony on the bench. That’s a difference of 6.4 points per 100 possessions, as well as a telling sign of his influence on the defensive end of the floor.

WOW where does this come from?

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4/17/2017  12:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/17/2017  12:17 PM
http://dailyknicks.com/2017/04/17/knicks-trade-rumors-pros-cons-trading-carmelo-anthony/

I am trying to verify this....for what its worth most Knicks had a poor rating.

Rose is lower and LT is right behind Melo. So......
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4/17/2017  12:25 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:http://dailyknicks.com/2017/04/17/knicks-trade-rumors-pros-cons-trading-carmelo-anthony/

I am trying to verify this....for what its worth most Knicks had a poor rating.

Rose is lower and LT is right behind Melo. So......

there were 2 links in the article:

Anthony finished the 2016-17 regular season at No. 418 in the NBA in Defensive Real Plus-Minus:
http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612752/onoffcourt-advanced/?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1

The Knicks allowed 111.1 points per 100 possessions with the 10-time All-Star on the floor:
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/11/sort/DRPM

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4/17/2017  12:57 PM
could we assign him to Westchester? I'm sure the CBA protects against that type of thing but it would be a nice hammer to hold if it could be done
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4/17/2017  1:32 PM
martin wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:http://dailyknicks.com/2017/04/17/knicks-trade-rumors-pros-cons-trading-carmelo-anthony/

I am trying to verify this....for what its worth most Knicks had a poor rating.

Rose is lower and LT is right behind Melo. So......

there were 2 links in the article:

Anthony finished the 2016-17 regular season at No. 418 in the NBA in Defensive Real Plus-Minus:
http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612752/onoffcourt-advanced/?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1

The Knicks allowed 111.1 points per 100 possessions with the 10-time All-Star on the floor:
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/11/sort/DRPM


thanks...the second one is more damaging. The team allows 111 with him and 104 without him.
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4/17/2017  1:56 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
martin wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:http://dailyknicks.com/2017/04/17/knicks-trade-rumors-pros-cons-trading-carmelo-anthony/

I am trying to verify this....for what its worth most Knicks had a poor rating.

Rose is lower and LT is right behind Melo. So......

there were 2 links in the article:

Anthony finished the 2016-17 regular season at No. 418 in the NBA in Defensive Real Plus-Minus:
http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612752/onoffcourt-advanced/?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1

The Knicks allowed 111.1 points per 100 possessions with the 10-time All-Star on the floor:
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/11/sort/DRPM


thanks...the second one is more damaging. The team allows 111 with him and 104 without him.

Its brutal. Absolutely brutal. But lets be fair to Melo. Phil did send mean tweets that might have hurt his feelings?

It would love to see some kind of bar graph:
Melo's defensive effort
(Min)********************-------------------------------------------(Max) overall
(Min)*****--------------------------------------------------------------(Max) post "holds the ball too long" tweet
(Min)**------------------------------------------------------------------(Max) post "change a leopard's stripes" tweet

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4/17/2017  2:20 PM

If he refused to waive the NTC?:

*Play for the knicks.
*Can negotiate a buyout and be a free agent.
*Brand designer towels to wear on his head and sit.
*Or, try to find a team that wants him, will pay for him, and trade an asset in return.
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4/17/2017  8:18 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
martin wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:http://dailyknicks.com/2017/04/17/knicks-trade-rumors-pros-cons-trading-carmelo-anthony/

I am trying to verify this....for what its worth most Knicks had a poor rating.

Rose is lower and LT is right behind Melo. So......

there were 2 links in the article:

Anthony finished the 2016-17 regular season at No. 418 in the NBA in Defensive Real Plus-Minus:
http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612752/onoffcourt-advanced/?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1

The Knicks allowed 111.1 points per 100 possessions with the 10-time All-Star on the floor:
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/11/sort/DRPM


thanks...the second one is more damaging. The team allows 111 with him and 104 without him.

Rose also sucked and even without Melo and Rose's scoring this team was at least improved on D and with the right added Talent and more development of our younger players that is going to be a formula for growth!!!
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