Knixkik wrote:

holfresh wrote:No..You are completely wrong...Melo and Rose have their issues but you can't blame them for KP which you and others do every game...That is my central argument the entire year...KP shortcomings is on KP..Not Melo and Rose...When I point this out, its labeled KP hate, biased against KP...


But when is Phil going to take responsibility??

Can't blame Rose and Melo for KP, but they certainly aren't helping him either. Traditionally, your PG especially is supposed to make life easier for the big men, and get them involved in the offense. That's just basic basketball.

He needs to learn to roll on a pick and roll...He needs to learn to create a passing lane to get the ball..He has to learn to set good picks..Willy does these things with ease and he gets the ball..

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Knixkik wrote:

holfresh wrote:No..You are completely wrong...Melo and Rose have their issues but you can't blame them for KP which you and others do every game...That is my central argument the entire year...KP shortcomings is on KP..Not Melo and Rose...When I point this out, its labeled KP hate, biased against KP...


But when is Phil going to take responsibility??

Can't blame Rose and Melo for KP, but they certainly aren't helping him either. Traditionally, your PG especially is supposed to make life easier for the big men, and get them involved in the offense. That's just basic basketball.

He needs to learn to roll on a pick and roll...He needs to learn to create a passing lane to get the ball..He has to learn to set good picks..Willy does these things with ease and he gets the ball..

Yes to all of that but also KP plays a totally different game from Willy. OFTEN KP is open and isn't getting the ball or gets it late. That is where a good PG or other passer helps.

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nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

holfresh wrote:No..You are completely wrong...Melo and Rose have their issues but you can't blame them for KP which you and others do every game...That is my central argument the entire year...KP shortcomings is on KP..Not Melo and Rose...When I point this out, its labeled KP hate, biased against KP...


But when is Phil going to take responsibility??

Can't blame Rose and Melo for KP, but they certainly aren't helping him either. Traditionally, your PG especially is supposed to make life easier for the big men, and get them involved in the offense. That's just basic basketball.

He needs to learn to roll on a pick and roll...He needs to learn to create a passing lane to get the ball..He has to learn to set good picks..Willy does these things with ease and he gets the ball..

Yes to all of that but also KP plays a totally different game from Willy. OFTEN KP is open and isn't getting the ball or gets it late. That is where a good PG or other passer helps.

You guys look at KP so much that you think he should get it every time he is open..But there are other players who are often wide open that don't get the ball as well..You think it's a KP phenomena..

KOQ was just wide open on a Baker drive..

JESUS MAN!!! Get with the F'n program! We're trying to develop a kid who could be our franchise player!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

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Knixkik wrote:

holfresh wrote:No..You are completely wrong...Melo and Rose have their issues but you can't blame them for KP which you and others do every game...That is my central argument the entire year...KP shortcomings is on KP..Not Melo and Rose...When I point this out, its labeled KP hate, biased against KP...


But when is Phil going to take responsibility??

Can't blame Rose and Melo for KP, but they certainly aren't helping him either. Traditionally, your PG especially is supposed to make life easier for the big men, and get them involved in the offense. That's just basic basketball.

He needs to learn to roll on a pick and roll...He needs to learn to create a passing lane to get the ball..He has to learn to set good picks..Willy does these things with ease and he gets the ball..

Yes to all of that but also KP plays a totally different game from Willy. OFTEN KP is open and isn't getting the ball or gets it late. That is where a good PG or other passer helps.

You guys look at KP so much that you think he should get it every time he is open..But there are other players who are often wide open that don't get the ball as well..You think it's a KP phenomena..

KOQ was just wide open on a Baker drive..

JESUS MAN!!! Get with the F'n program! We're trying to develop a kid who could be our franchise player!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???

I speak to you with respect..I expect the same from you...Act like the adult you are..

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nixluva wrote:

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Knixkik wrote:

holfresh wrote:No..You are completely wrong...Melo and Rose have their issues but you can't blame them for KP which you and others do every game...That is my central argument the entire year...KP shortcomings is on KP..Not Melo and Rose...When I point this out, its labeled KP hate, biased against KP...


But when is Phil going to take responsibility??

Can't blame Rose and Melo for KP, but they certainly aren't helping him either. Traditionally, your PG especially is supposed to make life easier for the big men, and get them involved in the offense. That's just basic basketball.

He needs to learn to roll on a pick and roll...He needs to learn to create a passing lane to get the ball..He has to learn to set good picks..Willy does these things with ease and he gets the ball..

Yes to all of that but also KP plays a totally different game from Willy. OFTEN KP is open and isn't getting the ball or gets it late. That is where a good PG or other passer helps.

You guys look at KP so much that you think he should get it every time he is open..But there are other players who are often wide open that don't get the ball as well..You think it's a KP phenomena..

KOQ was just wide open on a Baker drive..

JESUS MAN!!! Get with the F'n program! We're trying to develop a kid who could be our franchise player!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???

I speak to you with respect..I expect the same from you...Act like the adult you are..

Start posting like you know what the hell is going on!!! You post like someone who has no frame of reference for what the team is actually going thru and what their goals are. That is worthy of my scorn!!!

U need to grow the f.. up..

Look you're consistently talking down our young players and talking up Melo. You seem to be unclear about how important these young players actually are versus the importance of Melo at this point. Melo no longer matters. We aren't being led to the finals by Melo at this point. He's simply not what we need to be focused on. KP, Willy, Baker etc. Younger players are what we need to be focused on and they're not bad. If we can bring in another young STUD or two this summer that would be a huge step forward for this franchise's future. I really don't understand your point of view at all. Perhaps you could explain it more fully, cuz I don't get it.

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nixluva wrote:

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Knixkik wrote:

holfresh wrote:No..You are completely wrong...Melo and Rose have their issues but you can't blame them for KP which you and others do every game...That is my central argument the entire year...KP shortcomings is on KP..Not Melo and Rose...When I point this out, its labeled KP hate, biased against KP...


But when is Phil going to take responsibility??

Can't blame Rose and Melo for KP, but they certainly aren't helping him either. Traditionally, your PG especially is supposed to make life easier for the big men, and get them involved in the offense. That's just basic basketball.

He needs to learn to roll on a pick and roll...He needs to learn to create a passing lane to get the ball..He has to learn to set good picks..Willy does these things with ease and he gets the ball..

Yes to all of that but also KP plays a totally different game from Willy. OFTEN KP is open and isn't getting the ball or gets it late. That is where a good PG or other passer helps.

You guys look at KP so much that you think he should get it every time he is open..But there are other players who are often wide open that don't get the ball as well..You think it's a KP phenomena..

KOQ was just wide open on a Baker drive..

JESUS MAN!!! Get with the F'n program! We're trying to develop a kid who could be our franchise player!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???

I speak to you with respect..I expect the same from you...Act like the adult you are..

Start posting like you know what the hell is going on!!! You post like someone who has no frame of reference for what the team is actually going thru and what their goals are. That is worthy of my scorn!!!

U need to grow the f.. up..

Look you're consistently talking down our young players and talking up Melo. You seem to be unclear about how important these young players actually are versus the importance of Melo at this point. Melo no longer matters. We aren't being led to the finals by Melo at this point. He's simply not what we need to be focused on. KP, Willy, Baker etc. Younger players are what we need to be focused on and they're not bad. If we can bring in another young STUD or two this summer that would be a huge step forward for this franchise's future. I really don't understand your point of view at all. Perhaps you could explain it more fully, cuz I don't get it.

U are an emitional infant if you can't engage in a discussion of ideas without hurling insults..

So that's your response? I really don't think you realize how badly you've made your points and how they come across. Like few others who have been taking a very strange defensive mode towards Melo and Rose but seem to think KP needs to be taken down a peg, despite being a 21 yr old. KP, Willy, Baker and the young players are who we need to focus on more and more. Who the F cares about Melo or Rose in terms of our long term future??? Melo has had his time. I'm done with that thinking.

https://www.facebook.com/nbadleague/videos/10154854268335289/

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I watched a W Knicks game to check out Jovanovic and I like the kid. He looks pretty good. Very physical and skilled. He didn't play a lot but you can see he has some ability. He creates his own space with his wide stance and he goes up strong. He reminds me a bit of a more skilled RoLo. He has that kind of slow motion game even tho he's moving it looks like he has no higher gear to his foot speed, but he's hustling like RoLo.

https://www.facebook.com/nbadleague/videos/10154854268335289/

Awesome. I haven't watched them much this year. What did you think of Inglis?

I didn't focus in on Inglis but next time I'll pay more attention. I literally followed Jovanovic to see how he moved and what he did defensively. He's got toughness.

holfresh wrote:No..You are completely wrong...Melo and Rose have their issues but you can't blame them for KP which you and others do every game...That is my central argument the entire year...KP shortcomings is on KP..Not Melo and Rose...When I point this out, its labeled KP hate, biased against KP...


But when is Phil going to take responsibility??

Phil is def at fault. Rose has not adapted well to any kind of system play. Melo was challenged as "still having another level to go" and I think its pretty obvious he's about building his brand, being in NYC and hoisting shots. So thinking Melo would adapt his game to anything besides the chucking its been for the most part of a dozen years was also a failure for Phil. So we will see how long these failures hurt our present and future. So fair Phil's failures have yielded us KP. Another blue chip player in this draft would look nice next to him. Its really funny talking about "winning" and "results" with an Isiah guy but its Monday... lets just pass the time here.

If a few bad years results in a drafted base of talent worth building around than the results are satisfactory for me. Phil needs to execute in this draft in a big way. Phil hasnt been good here, but he *might* have the start of a nice base to move forward with. He should have some options for Melo as his contract isnt as putrid in the new CBA. Everyone wants to be like GS, or even Cle... both those teams floundered long and hard enough to draft elite talent and it didnt happen over night. You may balk at 3 years. Maybe it takes 5. I dont know. I know getting to draft after a bad year is better than NOT getting to draft.

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nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I haven't watched him at all since he became a W but just saw this tweet.

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https://twitter.com/chrispriczak/status/840003218633576448

I think you can watch on line. I really like the kid tho.