smackeddog wrote:Why do you have to have training to not just leave your used condoms on the bed or floor?!

No they mean don't just leave it in the bathroom trash can where it can be picked up. The point is that an unscrupulous woman might use the sperm to impregnate herself. It sounds gross but it's a real concern.

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again - and I said it before DRose was a Knick - there is something extremely fishy about this case. I don't know if it'll be a mistrial, but I don't see a bad outcome for Rose at this point. And I certainly don't see any criminal charges being filed.

Rose still did a bad thing IMO. Criminal charges or not it doesnt mean he is this great guy. Thankfully he is only here a year. Im excited about jennnings possibly being here a few years like he said he wanted to

You keep saying this kind of thing but really what are you basing it on? You can never really know the whole truth in situations like this.

Also you don't know that Rose will not sign a new contract here. Let's just see what happens.

dude quit apologizing for Rose on this - it's disgusting

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again - and I said it before DRose was a Knick - there is something extremely fishy about this case. I don't know if it'll be a mistrial, but I don't see a bad outcome for Rose at this point. And I certainly don't see any criminal charges being filed.

Rose still did a bad thing IMO. Criminal charges or not it doesnt mean he is this great guy. Thankfully he is only here a year. Im excited about jennnings possibly being here a few years like he said he wanted to

You keep saying this kind of thing but really what are you basing it on? You can never really know the whole truth in situations like this.

Also you don't know that Rose will not sign a new contract here. Let's just see what happens.

dude quit apologizing for Rose on this - it's disgusting

First of all it's a free country and I have an opinion just like you!!! It seems to me that you aren't fully aware of the facts of this case as they've been updated.

Rose's sexual habits being what they are, you and I may not agree with it, but that doesn't mean he raped this woman. You seem to have made up your mind about him based on your own morals but your views are your own as are mine. Just cuz you wouldn't perhaps agree with his lifestyle doesn't mean consenting adults are not free to do what they want in the bedroom legally.

don't give me that free country bull**** when all you did was say "wah, don't post what you think about Rose" previously

Obviously somebody was in this woman's ear, FILLING HER UP WITH PREMIUM

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again - and I said it before DRose was a Knick - there is something extremely fishy about this case. I don't know if it'll be a mistrial, but I don't see a bad outcome for Rose at this point. And I certainly don't see any criminal charges being filed.

Rose still did a bad thing IMO. Criminal charges or not it doesnt mean he is this great guy. Thankfully he is only here a year. Im excited about jennnings possibly being here a few years like he said he wanted to

I'm not bothered about sex lives of players, but there's no way I could root for a rapist- outcome of the trial is important to me. How awkward will it be as a knick fan following this team if he is found guilty?

A rapist who forces a woman or takes advantage of her while she is incapacitated is obviously someone who is impossible to root for.
But in this case there is a lot of gray area, and it is possible to see why Rose does not feel he did anything wrong.
And juries make mistakes too, one way or the other, so the decision on whether to root for a player will be taken based on facts and each individual's interpretation of these facts.

i never accused him of rape or that he is guilty of criminal charges. HOWEVER i still feel his actions werent right at all. I mean he has had some issues in his past as well. Im just not a big fan of his. Talent wise he used to be a bigtime offensive player and mvp i would never deny that

he isn't a high character person. too much history of sleaze and the knicks need high character employees.

But it's ok for the Presidential nominee to be a rapist and a sleaze ball. If you compare Rose to Trump, Rose looks like an angel. Welcome to the United States of American, where some lives matter and others don't. I'm not poking at anybody in this thread, or anybody thats connected to my reply statement (this is not a personal attack at anybody in here).....I'm just tired of this ugly system we live in, where money and success dominates all rules / standards the average person has to follow. There is a serious problem and will always be a serious problem, as long as we are slaved to money and success....But don't mind me, I'm just blowing off steam.....

As for Rose, I don't see why having sex with a woman who sent out the invitation is a bad thing (assuming these are the facts). But if this is a fact, not sure how anybody could be mad at Rose. Now if it was a dude he had sex with, then it would be hard for me to root for him (but again thats my own personal preference and eventually I would quickly get over it). If any good looking woman gives a STRAIGHT man an invitation to engage in sex, then 99% of all STRAIGHT men would be guilty of being a sleaze balls.....As Trump implied, when you are a celebrity, you don't abide by the same rules and standards as the average person (knick fan).....Rose is in the same Trump category, as far as having money and being a celebrity. Remove the jealousy or racism, and you will see Rose is just like all the other celebs who continue to squeeze through the justice system un-phased. As the old saying goes, Don't hate the player, hate the game!

Move on!

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again - and I said it before DRose was a Knick - there is something extremely fishy about this case. I don't know if it'll be a mistrial, but I don't see a bad outcome for Rose at this point. And I certainly don't see any criminal charges being filed.

Rose still did a bad thing IMO. Criminal charges or not it doesnt mean he is this great guy. Thankfully he is only here a year. Im excited about jennnings possibly being here a few years like he said he wanted to

I'm not bothered about sex lives of players, but there's no way I could root for a rapist- outcome of the trial is important to me. How awkward will it be as a knick fan following this team if he is found guilty?

A rapist who forces a woman or takes advantage of her while she is incapacitated is obviously someone who is impossible to root for.
But in this case there is a lot of gray area, and it is possible to see why Rose does not feel he did anything wrong.
And juries make mistakes too, one way or the other, so the decision on whether to root for a player will be taken based on facts and each individual's interpretation of these facts.

i never accused him of rape or that he is guilty of criminal charges. HOWEVER i still feel his actions werent right at all. I mean he has had some issues in his past as well. Im just not a big fan of his. Talent wise he used to be a bigtime offensive player and mvp i would never deny that

he isn't a high character person. too much history of sleaze and the knicks need high character employees.

But it's ok for the Presidential nominee to be a rapist and a sleaze ball. If you compare Rose to Trump, Rose looks like an angel. Welcome to the United States of American, where some lives matter and others don't. I'm not poking at anybody in this thread, or anybody thats connected to my reply statement (this is not a personal attack at anybody in here).....I'm just tired of this ugly system we live in, where money and success dominates all rules / standards the average person has to follow. There is a serious problem and will always be a serious problem, as long as we are slaved to money and success....But don't mind me, I'm just blowing off steam.....

As for Rose, I don't see why having sex with a woman who sent out the invitation is a bad thing (assuming these are the facts). But if this is a fact, not sure how anybody could be mad at Rose. Now if it was a dude he had sex with, then it would be hard for me to root for him (but again thats my own personal preference and eventually I would quickly get over it). If any good looking woman gives a STRAIGHT man an invitation to engage in sex, then 99% of all STRAIGHT men would be guilty of being a sleaze balls.....As Trump implied, when you are a celebrity, you don't abide by the same rules and standards as the average person (knick fan).....Rose is in the same Trump category, as far as having money and being a celebrity. Remove the jealousy or racism, and you will see Rose is just like all the other celebs who continue to squeeze through the justice system un-phased. As the old saying goes, Don't hate the player, hate the game!

Move on!

No matter which way you put it pulling a train on this female was wrong. Also nasty. Who in the world would want sloppy seconds. They show no respect for women.

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again - and I said it before DRose was a Knick - there is something extremely fishy about this case. I don't know if it'll be a mistrial, but I don't see a bad outcome for Rose at this point. And I certainly don't see any criminal charges being filed.

Rose still did a bad thing IMO. Criminal charges or not it doesnt mean he is this great guy. Thankfully he is only here a year. Im excited about jennnings possibly being here a few years like he said he wanted to

I'm not bothered about sex lives of players, but there's no way I could root for a rapist- outcome of the trial is important to me. How awkward will it be as a knick fan following this team if he is found guilty?

A rapist who forces a woman or takes advantage of her while she is incapacitated is obviously someone who is impossible to root for.
But in this case there is a lot of gray area, and it is possible to see why Rose does not feel he did anything wrong.
And juries make mistakes too, one way or the other, so the decision on whether to root for a player will be taken based on facts and each individual's interpretation of these facts.

i never accused him of rape or that he is guilty of criminal charges. HOWEVER i still feel his actions werent right at all. I mean he has had some issues in his past as well. Im just not a big fan of his. Talent wise he used to be a bigtime offensive player and mvp i would never deny that

he isn't a high character person. too much history of sleaze and the knicks need high character employees.

But it's ok for the Presidential nominee to be a rapist and a sleaze ball. If you compare Rose to Trump, Rose looks like an angel. Welcome to the United States of American, where some lives matter and others don't. I'm not poking at anybody in this thread, or anybody thats connected to my reply statement (this is not a personal attack at anybody in here).....I'm just tired of this ugly system we live in, where money and success dominates all rules / standards the average person has to follow. There is a serious problem and will always be a serious problem, as long as we are slaved to money and success....But don't mind me, I'm just blowing off steam.....

As for Rose, I don't see why having sex with a woman who sent out the invitation is a bad thing (assuming these are the facts). But if this is a fact, not sure how anybody could be mad at Rose. Now if it was a dude he had sex with, then it would be hard for me to root for him (but again thats my own personal preference and eventually I would quickly get over it). If any good looking woman gives a STRAIGHT man an invitation to engage in sex, then 99% of all STRAIGHT men would be guilty of being a sleaze balls.....As Trump implied, when you are a celebrity, you don't abide by the same rules and standards as the average person (knick fan).....Rose is in the same Trump category, as far as having money and being a celebrity. Remove the jealousy or racism, and you will see Rose is just like all the other celebs who continue to squeeze through the justice system un-phased. As the old saying goes, Don't hate the player, hate the game!

Move on!

in spite of everything trump maintains a fringe fanbase. he is considered a lowlife sleazeball by the vast majority of women as well as men in this country. and guilty or innocent, so will derrick rose maintain a fringe fan base who can look past this event. the main difference is that one guy will be *fired* by the electorate by november 8th-- fired and embarrassed-- while the other will likely remain employed through mid-april, blithely unaffected by his participation in weirdness.

i see both as malignant narcissists, them and the owner of the knicks. guilty or innocent, there is something wrong with derrick rose.

"malignant narcissist"

Yea... someone is.

crzymdups wrote:Well, this seems to be unconnected to the case... but weird...

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/786255570575642624

Money and power is a different ball game.....

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again - and I said it before DRose was a Knick - there is something extremely fishy about this case. I don't know if it'll be a mistrial, but I don't see a bad outcome for Rose at this point. And I certainly don't see any criminal charges being filed.

Rose still did a bad thing IMO. Criminal charges or not it doesnt mean he is this great guy. Thankfully he is only here a year. Im excited about jennnings possibly being here a few years like he said he wanted to

You keep saying this kind of thing but really what are you basing it on? You can never really know the whole truth in situations like this.

Also you don't know that Rose will not sign a new contract here. Let's just see what happens.

dude quit apologizing for Rose on this - it's disgusting

First of all it's a free country and I have an opinion just like you!!! It seems to me that you aren't fully aware of the facts of this case as they've been updated.

Rose's sexual habits being what they are, you and I may not agree with it, but that doesn't mean he raped this woman. You seem to have made up your mind about him based on your own morals but your views are your own as are mine. Just cuz you wouldn't perhaps agree with his lifestyle doesn't mean consenting adults are not free to do what they want in the bedroom legally.

don't give me that free country bull**** when all you did was say "wah, don't post what you think about Rose" previously

Dude you are all over the place!!! I can't even begin to understand your position. I haven't said Rose is guilty or innocent. I'm just saying you nor I can really put our own morality on him just as you wouldn't want someone to put their morality on you for how you choose to live. Just cuz we have some info on his bedroom activity it's easy to point fingers but no one knows what you do so they can't judge you. If he did not rape this woman then you really should just keep your own views on his legal sex life to yourself. There are people who have sexual behavior that may not conform to the so called NORMS of the average person but if it's not illegal who are you to judge???

I'm all over the place? You're entitled to say your opinion whenever you want and I'm not allowed to say anything negative about your new Knickerbockers man crush? All I'm doing is pointing out that you are a hypocrite

SupremeCommander wrote:

blkexec wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Well, this seems to be unconnected to the case... but weird...

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/786255570575642624

Money and power is a different ball game.....

um... Mr. Rose, I, uh, take back everything I said and apologize from the bottom of my heart

" Five steps to the rim is fine...Mr. Rose"