GustavBahler wrote:

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

dk7th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This is called deflection.

This post is about that teams epic failure prior to Lin arriving, winning and the jealously that followed. Not Dantoni's career record

Yeah exactly. If we're going to talk about MDA's record in recent years, we should be talking about the records of everyone involved in the story (Melo, Amare, Lin) etc. Or we could just focus on the actual story. We shouldn't scrutinize MDA's records and ignore the other people's though.

As far as I know, Melo and Amare haven't given interviews lately trashing D'Antoni. I don't believe someone who has had very little success in this league for the last 8 years, in part because of his inflexibilty, should be talking negatively about anyone. Not sure why you guys think thats ok, regardless of what you think about Lin, Amare, or Melo.

Even if what MDA says reflects poorly on his character, that doesn't invalidate his points. Maybe MDA is a mean person but that's a separate topic and one that shouldn't matter to Knicks fans since he's not part of the team.

Character matters IMO when that coach starts lobbing accusations. Melo flew to Vegas to recruit Lin if I recall, dont know about Stat. And this was to recruit a player who had shown something only for a few weeks, really. For a future HOFer, All Star, to do that was a sign of great respect. How much more was he supposed to do?

Can you provide a link to the Melo recruiting Lin story? Never heard of that.

Sorry, they met in LA. It was Lin who secretly flew to Vegas to renegotiate his offer with the Rockets. Combined two stories. Woodson/Melo/Chandler met with Lin in LA. At the time Lin still hadn't signed a new deal. If Melo really didnt want him back, that would have been a great opportunity to show it by not showing up.

From the Post:

The Knicks had been set to match Lin’s original offer sheet of four years, $28.9 million that had a $19 million guarantee before the Rockets threw a financial curveball that called for a $15 million third year that would have doomed owner James Dolan’s luxury-tax predicament.[/quote

Sorry .. The he-said she-said lies bout the Knicks 2010-11 MVP player was a dream gone DEAD need to be buried along with the rest of all owner Dolan's BLAME-Games .. We actually had the chance to let the NBA Fans build Jeremy LinSanity into a worldwide NBA Knicks Star .... Recall Lin didnt take Houston first offer because he had to be waiting on the Knicks to give him a call or offer the day after the Knicks sign Jason Kidd (The best tutor/coach in the business for Jeremy Lin type of style).
For some unknown reason the Knicks organization never called Lin.

Recall when we had to wait for the result to find out if the Knicks held Lin's rights.
Our GM at the time did announced the Knicks organization were gonna let (A huge FAN-Base) Jeremy Lin test the FA waters ...WHAT??????

Like conversing with a 14 year old fan boy. Right, the Knicks blew their chance to turn Lin into the star he never became, not even fing close. Did you listen to the interview? Getting so defensive about a coach who hasnt shown anything in 8 years and a player who has shown almost nothing in the 4 years since those handful of games. Lin has changed teams 4 times since then, get over it.

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

dk7th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This is called deflection.

This post is about that teams epic failure prior to Lin arriving, winning and the jealously that followed. Not Dantoni's career record

Yeah exactly. If we're going to talk about MDA's record in recent years, we should be talking about the records of everyone involved in the story (Melo, Amare, Lin) etc. Or we could just focus on the actual story. We shouldn't scrutinize MDA's records and ignore the other people's though.

As far as I know, Melo and Amare haven't given interviews lately trashing D'Antoni. I don't believe someone who has had very little success in this league for the last 8 years, in part because of his inflexibilty, should be talking negatively about anyone. Not sure why you guys think thats ok, regardless of what you think about Lin, Amare, or Melo.

Even if what MDA says reflects poorly on his character, that doesn't invalidate his points. Maybe MDA is a mean person but that's a separate topic and one that shouldn't matter to Knicks fans since he's not part of the team.

Character matters IMO when that coach starts lobbing accusations. Melo flew to Vegas to recruit Lin if I recall, dont know about Stat. And this was to recruit a player who had shown something only for a few weeks, really. For a future HOFer, All Star, to do that was a sign of great respect. How much more was he supposed to do?

Can you provide a link to the Melo recruiting Lin story? Never heard of that.

Sorry, they met in LA. It was Lin who secretly flew to Vegas to renegotiate his offer with the Rockets. Combined two stories. Woodson/Melo/Chandler met with Lin in LA. At the time Lin still hadn't signed a new deal. If Melo really didnt want him back, that would have been a great opportunity to show it by not showing up.

From the Post:

The Knicks had been set to match Lin’s original offer sheet of four years, $28.9 million that had a $19 million guarantee before the Rockets threw a financial curveball that called for a $15 million third year that would have doomed owner James Dolan’s luxury-tax predicament.[/quote

Sorry .. The he-said she-said lies bout the Knicks 2010-11 MVP player was a dream gone DEAD need to be buried along with the rest of all owner Dolan's BLAME-Games .. We actually had the chance to let the NBA Fans build Jeremy LinSanity into a worldwide NBA Knicks Star .... Recall Lin didnt take Houston first offer because he had to be waiting on the Knicks to give him a call or offer the day after the Knicks sign Jason Kidd (The best tutor/coach in the business for Jeremy Lin type of style).
For some unknown reason the Knicks organization never called Lin.

Recall when we had to wait for the result to find out if the Knicks held Lin's rights.
Our GM at the time did announced the Knicks organization were gonna let (A huge FAN-Base) Jeremy Lin test the FA waters ...WHAT??????

Like conversing with a 14 year old fan boy. Right, the Knicks blew their chance to turn Lin into the star he never became, not even fing close. Did you listen to the interview? Getting so defensive about a coach who hasnt shown anything in 8 years and a player who has shown almost nothing in the 4 years since those handful of games. Lin has changed teams 4 times since then, get over it.

The story in the article and that the OP is raising relates to the attitude of Melo and Amare more so than the subsequent success of Lin or the character or success of MDA. Those other topics are side notes to the story.

The point is, D'Antoni (in the podcast the OP posted), went on and on about the failures of some of his players, but when it came time to admit that he was a factor in the Knicks lack of success as well, D'Antoni punted. He said that he doesnt think about it much, that he doesn't like second guessing himself. Thats not gracious, its classless.

D'Antoni has accomplished absolutely nothing in the NBA for the last 8 years. He has spent the better part of the last 8 years brushing aside all criticism, blaming others for his lack of success, yet we are supposed to take what he says about players at face value.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:d'antoni haters out in full force, hear what you want to hear, interpret what he is saying how you will. carry on with the useless trolling.

Did you listen to the podcast?

i heard a pretty gracious person who realized he had lost the team and resigned once he realized it. once he saw how well lin did leading the knicks during that stretch, he wanted to make it lin's team and allow lin to play the way he, lin, wanted to play. apparently the adjustments required of melo and amare were too much to ask for the cause of winning or in service of winning, and the writing was on the wall.

argue 20-20 hindsight if you want-- lin gets hurt, lin is just an average player with a brilliant streak, etc. it doesn't cover over the fact that d'antoni wasn't powerful enough to make his players do what he wanted them to do, and it reflects poorly on amare and melo.

while what you are saying is true, MDA made lots of stupid moves and was rigid and stubborn and often he would just try to prove a point to the detriment of the team. I would love to hear why he had TD, a 25% three point shooter reigning and leading the team in three point attempts. Why he would not play corey brewer ...

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

dk7th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This is called deflection.

This post is about that teams epic failure prior to Lin arriving, winning and the jealously that followed. Not Dantoni's career record

Yeah exactly. If we're going to talk about MDA's record in recent years, we should be talking about the records of everyone involved in the story (Melo, Amare, Lin) etc. Or we could just focus on the actual story. We shouldn't scrutinize MDA's records and ignore the other people's though.

As far as I know, Melo and Amare haven't given interviews lately trashing D'Antoni. I don't believe someone who has had very little success in this league for the last 8 years, in part because of his inflexibilty, should be talking negatively about anyone. Not sure why you guys think thats ok, regardless of what you think about Lin, Amare, or Melo.

Even if what MDA says reflects poorly on his character, that doesn't invalidate his points. Maybe MDA is a mean person but that's a separate topic and one that shouldn't matter to Knicks fans since he's not part of the team.

Character matters IMO when that coach starts lobbing accusations. Melo flew to Vegas to recruit Lin if I recall, dont know about Stat. And this was to recruit a player who had shown something only for a few weeks, really. For a future HOFer, All Star, to do that was a sign of great respect. How much more was he supposed to do?

Can you provide a link to the Melo recruiting Lin story? Never heard of that.

Sorry, they met in LA. It was Lin who secretly flew to Vegas to renegotiate his offer with the Rockets. Combined two stories. Woodson/Melo/Chandler met with Lin in LA. At the time Lin still hadn't signed a new deal. If Melo really didnt want him back, that would have been a great opportunity to show it by not showing up.

From the Post:

The Knicks had been set to match Lin’s original offer sheet of four years, $28.9 million that had a $19 million guarantee before the Rockets threw a financial curveball that called for a $15 million third year that would have doomed owner James Dolan’s luxury-tax predicament.[/quote

Sorry .. The he-said she-said lies bout the Knicks 2010-11 MVP player was a dream gone DEAD need to be buried along with the rest of all owner Dolan's BLAME-Games .. We actually had the chance to let the NBA Fans build Jeremy LinSanity into a worldwide NBA Knicks Star .... Recall Lin didnt take Houston first offer because he had to be waiting on the Knicks to give him a call or offer the day after the Knicks sign Jason Kidd (The best tutor/coach in the business for Jeremy Lin type of style).
For some unknown reason the Knicks organization never called Lin.

Recall when we had to wait for the result to find out if the Knicks held Lin's rights.
Our GM at the time did announced the Knicks organization were gonna let (A huge FAN-Base) Jeremy Lin test the FA waters ...WHAT??????

Like conversing with a 14 year old fan boy. Right, the Knicks blew their chance to turn Lin into the star he never became, not even fing close. Did you listen to the interview? Getting so defensive about a coach who hasnt shown anything in 8 years and a player who has shown almost nothing in the 4 years since those handful of games. Lin has changed teams 4 times since then, get over it.

The story in the article and that the OP is raising relates to the attitude of Melo and Amare more so than the subsequent success of Lin or the character or success of MDA. Those other topics are side notes to the story.

The point is, D'Antoni (in the podcast the OP posted), went on and on about the failures of some of his players, but when it came time to admit that he was a factor in the Knicks lack of success as well, D'Antoni punted. He said that he doesnt think about it much, that he doesn't like second guessing himself. Thats not gracious, its classless.

D'Antoni has accomplished absolutely nothing in the NBA for the last 8 years. He has spent the better part of the last 8 years brushing aside all criticism, blaming others for his lack of success, yet we are supposed to take what he says about players at face value.

Right and the point is that's all secondary to the actual story that the article and OP are trying to raise. That might merit its own thread but it's just a distraction here. When I say "secondary" or "side note," that means it is still connected to the story and may have come up in the story but it's not the focus of the story or the OP's post.

I cant take the word of a coach who glosses over his own failures, and blames others for his lack of success. The title of the thread is "How Carmelo, Amar'e pushed Jeremy Lin out Mike D'Antoni said in "Woj podcast". That sure doesn't look secondary to me. The title of the thread is about the podcast. The first link is about the podcast. What distraction?

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

dk7th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This is called deflection.

This post is about that teams epic failure prior to Lin arriving, winning and the jealously that followed. Not Dantoni's career record

Yeah exactly. If we're going to talk about MDA's record in recent years, we should be talking about the records of everyone involved in the story (Melo, Amare, Lin) etc. Or we could just focus on the actual story. We shouldn't scrutinize MDA's records and ignore the other people's though.

As far as I know, Melo and Amare haven't given interviews lately trashing D'Antoni. I don't believe someone who has had very little success in this league for the last 8 years, in part because of his inflexibilty, should be talking negatively about anyone. Not sure why you guys think thats ok, regardless of what you think about Lin, Amare, or Melo.

Even if what MDA says reflects poorly on his character, that doesn't invalidate his points. Maybe MDA is a mean person but that's a separate topic and one that shouldn't matter to Knicks fans since he's not part of the team.

Character matters IMO when that coach starts lobbing accusations. Melo flew to Vegas to recruit Lin if I recall, dont know about Stat. And this was to recruit a player who had shown something only for a few weeks, really. For a future HOFer, All Star, to do that was a sign of great respect. How much more was he supposed to do?

Can you provide a link to the Melo recruiting Lin story? Never heard of that.

Sorry, they met in LA. It was Lin who secretly flew to Vegas to renegotiate his offer with the Rockets. Combined two stories. Woodson/Melo/Chandler met with Lin in LA. At the time Lin still hadn't signed a new deal. If Melo really didnt want him back, that would have been a great opportunity to show it by not showing up.

From the Post:

The Knicks had been set to match Lin’s original offer sheet of four years, $28.9 million that had a $19 million guarantee before the Rockets threw a financial curveball that called for a $15 million third year that would have doomed owner James Dolan’s luxury-tax predicament.[/quote

Sorry .. The he-said she-said lies bout the Knicks 2010-11 MVP player was a dream gone DEAD need to be buried along with the rest of all owner Dolan's BLAME-Games .. We actually had the chance to let the NBA Fans build Jeremy LinSanity into a worldwide NBA Knicks Star .... Recall Lin didnt take Houston first offer because he had to be waiting on the Knicks to give him a call or offer the day after the Knicks sign Jason Kidd (The best tutor/coach in the business for Jeremy Lin type of style).
For some unknown reason the Knicks organization never called Lin.

Recall when we had to wait for the result to find out if the Knicks held Lin's rights.
Our GM at the time did announced the Knicks organization were gonna let (A huge FAN-Base) Jeremy Lin test the FA waters ...WHAT??????

Like conversing with a 14 year old fan boy. Right, the Knicks blew their chance to turn Lin into the star he never became, not even fing close. Did you listen to the interview? Getting so defensive about a coach who hasnt shown anything in 8 years and a player who has shown almost nothing in the 4 years since those handful of games. Lin has changed teams 4 times since then, get over it.

The story in the article and that the OP is raising relates to the attitude of Melo and Amare more so than the subsequent success of Lin or the character or success of MDA. Those other topics are side notes to the story.

The point is, D'Antoni (in the podcast the OP posted), went on and on about the failures of some of his players, but when it came time to admit that he was a factor in the Knicks lack of success as well, D'Antoni punted. He said that he doesnt think about it much, that he doesn't like second guessing himself. Thats not gracious, its classless.

D'Antoni has accomplished absolutely nothing in the NBA for the last 8 years. He has spent the better part of the last 8 years brushing aside all criticism, blaming others for his lack of success, yet we are supposed to take what he says about players at face value.

Right and the point is that's all secondary to the actual story that the article and OP are trying to raise. That might merit its own thread but it's just a distraction here. When I say "secondary" or "side note," that means it is still connected to the story and may have come up in the story but it's not the focus of the story or the OP's post.

I cant take the word of a coach who glosses over his own failures, and blames others for his lack of success. The title of the thread is "How Carmelo, Amar'e pushed Jeremy Lin out Mike D'Antoni said in "Woj podcast". That sure doesn't look secondary to me. The title of the thread is about the podcast. The first link is about the podcast. What distraction?

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

dk7th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This is called deflection.

This post is about that teams epic failure prior to Lin arriving, winning and the jealously that followed. Not Dantoni's career record

Yeah exactly. If we're going to talk about MDA's record in recent years, we should be talking about the records of everyone involved in the story (Melo, Amare, Lin) etc. Or we could just focus on the actual story. We shouldn't scrutinize MDA's records and ignore the other people's though.

As far as I know, Melo and Amare haven't given interviews lately trashing D'Antoni. I don't believe someone who has had very little success in this league for the last 8 years, in part because of his inflexibilty, should be talking negatively about anyone. Not sure why you guys think thats ok, regardless of what you think about Lin, Amare, or Melo.

Even if what MDA says reflects poorly on his character, that doesn't invalidate his points. Maybe MDA is a mean person but that's a separate topic and one that shouldn't matter to Knicks fans since he's not part of the team.

Character matters IMO when that coach starts lobbing accusations. Melo flew to Vegas to recruit Lin if I recall, dont know about Stat. And this was to recruit a player who had shown something only for a few weeks, really. For a future HOFer, All Star, to do that was a sign of great respect. How much more was he supposed to do?

Can you provide a link to the Melo recruiting Lin story? Never heard of that.

Sorry, they met in LA. It was Lin who secretly flew to Vegas to renegotiate his offer with the Rockets. Combined two stories. Woodson/Melo/Chandler met with Lin in LA. At the time Lin still hadn't signed a new deal. If Melo really didnt want him back, that would have been a great opportunity to show it by not showing up.

From the Post:

The Knicks had been set to match Lin’s original offer sheet of four years, $28.9 million that had a $19 million guarantee before the Rockets threw a financial curveball that called for a $15 million third year that would have doomed owner James Dolan’s luxury-tax predicament.[/quote

Sorry .. The he-said she-said lies bout the Knicks 2010-11 MVP player was a dream gone DEAD need to be buried along with the rest of all owner Dolan's BLAME-Games .. We actually had the chance to let the NBA Fans build Jeremy LinSanity into a worldwide NBA Knicks Star .... Recall Lin didnt take Houston first offer because he had to be waiting on the Knicks to give him a call or offer the day after the Knicks sign Jason Kidd (The best tutor/coach in the business for Jeremy Lin type of style).
For some unknown reason the Knicks organization never called Lin.

Recall when we had to wait for the result to find out if the Knicks held Lin's rights.
Our GM at the time did announced the Knicks organization were gonna let (A huge FAN-Base) Jeremy Lin test the FA waters ...WHAT??????

Like conversing with a 14 year old fan boy. Right, the Knicks blew their chance to turn Lin into the star he never became, not even fing close. Did you listen to the interview? Getting so defensive about a coach who hasnt shown anything in 8 years and a player who has shown almost nothing in the 4 years since those handful of games. Lin has changed teams 4 times since then, get over it.

The story in the article and that the OP is raising relates to the attitude of Melo and Amare more so than the subsequent success of Lin or the character or success of MDA. Those other topics are side notes to the story.

The point is, D'Antoni (in the podcast the OP posted), went on and on about the failures of some of his players, but when it came time to admit that he was a factor in the Knicks lack of success as well, D'Antoni punted. He said that he doesnt think about it much, that he doesn't like second guessing himself. Thats not gracious, its classless.

D'Antoni has accomplished absolutely nothing in the NBA for the last 8 years. He has spent the better part of the last 8 years brushing aside all criticism, blaming others for his lack of success, yet we are supposed to take what he says about players at face value.

Right and the point is that's all secondary to the actual story that the article and OP are trying to raise. That might merit its own thread but it's just a distraction here. When I say "secondary" or "side note," that means it is still connected to the story and may have come up in the story but it's not the focus of the story or the OP's post.

I cant take the word of a coach who glosses over his own failures, and blames others for his lack of success. The title of the thread is "How Carmelo, Amar'e pushed Jeremy Lin out Mike D'Antoni said in "Woj podcast". That sure doesn't look secondary to me. The title of the thread is about the podcast. The first link is about the podcast. What distraction?

Yeah, so the focus is how Carmelo, Amare push Lin out according to MDA.
If the title said something about Lin turning into a great player or said MDA was a great coach or had great character, that might be part of the story. But the story is literally "How Carmelo, Amar'e pushed Jeremy Lin out Mike D'Antoni"
If you try to visualize this sentence (Melo and Amare pushing Lin out and MDA speaking *about them pushing him*) it should be clear what is and what isn't the focus of the story.

We are getting into the semantic olympics here Bonn, lol. How reliable is the person making an accusation? Thats the first thing I want to know. What is he or she leaving out, if anything? In D'Antoni's case a great deal. In the end D'Antoni was the coach, it was his job to get everyone on the same page, and instead of sticking it out, he bailed, and went on to blame everyone but himself. Surprised you cant understand why I wouldnt put much stock into what MDA says.

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:d'antoni haters out in full force, hear what you want to hear, interpret what he is saying how you will. carry on with the useless trolling.

Did you listen to the podcast?

i heard a pretty gracious person who realized he had lost the team and resigned once he realized it. once he saw how well lin did leading the knicks during that stretch, he wanted to make it lin's team and allow lin to play the way he, lin, wanted to play. apparently the adjustments required of melo and amare were too much to ask for the cause of winning or in service of winning, and the writing was on the wall.

argue 20-20 hindsight if you want-- lin gets hurt, lin is just an average player with a brilliant streak, etc. it doesn't cover over the fact that d'antoni wasn't powerful enough to make his players do what he wanted them to do, and it reflects poorly on amare and melo.

while what you are saying is true, MDA made lots of stupid moves and was rigid and stubborn and often he would just try to prove a point to the detriment of the team. I would love to hear why he had TD, a 25% three point shooter reigning and leading the team in three point attempts. Why he would not play corey brewer ...

This. Also, the guy spoke about how the team needed a new voice and he took one for the team by resigning so they could make a run at the playoffs and then said that if he had waited a week things would have worked themselves out with injuries. Woodson ran my stuff etc. He didn't want to compromise his integrity with other players in the league. Is that being gracious?

He said he should have waited a couple of weeks, and laughs. Sounded like he suggested that Woodson had nothing to do with it. For the rest of the season, Woodson's substitutions were better, he called TOs before the game got out of reach, and got in player's faces (like JR). Eventually Dolan got his mits on him, and he became a company man, but that turnaround wouldnt of happened with D'Antoni.

GustavBahler wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:d'antoni haters out in full force, hear what you want to hear, interpret what he is saying how you will. carry on with the useless trolling.

Did you listen to the podcast?

i heard a pretty gracious person who realized he had lost the team and resigned once he realized it. once he saw how well lin did leading the knicks during that stretch, he wanted to make it lin's team and allow lin to play the way he, lin, wanted to play. apparently the adjustments required of melo and amare were too much to ask for the cause of winning or in service of winning, and the writing was on the wall.

argue 20-20 hindsight if you want-- lin gets hurt, lin is just an average player with a brilliant streak, etc. it doesn't cover over the fact that d'antoni wasn't powerful enough to make his players do what he wanted them to do, and it reflects poorly on amare and melo.

while what you are saying is true, MDA made lots of stupid moves and was rigid and stubborn and often he would just try to prove a point to the detriment of the team. I would love to hear why he had TD, a 25% three point shooter reigning and leading the team in three point attempts. Why he would not play corey brewer ...

This. Also, the guy spoke about how the team needed a new voice and he took one for the team by resigning so they could make a run at the playoffs and then said that if he had waited a week things would have worked themselves out with injuries. Woodson ran my stuff etc. He didn't want to compromise his integrity with other players in the league. Is that being gracious?

He said he should have waited a couple of weeks, and laughs. Sounded like he suggested that Woodson had nothing to do with it. For the rest of the season, Woodson's substitutions were better, he called TOs before the game got out of reach, and got in player's faces (like JR). Eventually Dolan got his mits on him, and he became a company man, but that turnaround wouldnt of happened with D'Antoni.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:d'antoni haters out in full force, hear what you want to hear, interpret what he is saying how you will. carry on with the useless trolling.

Did you listen to the podcast?

i heard a pretty gracious person who realized he had lost the team and resigned once he realized it. once he saw how well lin did leading the knicks during that stretch, he wanted to make it lin's team and allow lin to play the way he, lin, wanted to play. apparently the adjustments required of melo and amare were too much to ask for the cause of winning or in service of winning, and the writing was on the wall.

argue 20-20 hindsight if you want-- lin gets hurt, lin is just an average player with a brilliant streak, etc. it doesn't cover over the fact that d'antoni wasn't powerful enough to make his players do what he wanted them to do, and it reflects poorly on amare and melo.

I heard it and did not feel that way at all. I heard a guy taking little tey refusedo no accountability to a situation that he could have handled differently and putting it on his players. Either don't go there with Woj or own up to your own mistakes.

He said that with the way Lin ran the team, and the remarkable success the Knicks experienced, that he wanted Melo to move to the 4 and Amare to come off the bench. They refused to do what he asked-- their own coach with a proven record of success at that time-- and he resigned. He noted that when Melo moved to the 4 out of necessity that that made a big difference, vindicating his vision for the team.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:d'antoni haters out in full force, hear what you want to hear, interpret what he is saying how you will. carry on with the useless trolling.

Did you listen to the podcast?

i heard a pretty gracious person who realized he had lost the team and resigned once he realized it. once he saw how well lin did leading the knicks during that stretch, he wanted to make it lin's team and allow lin to play the way he, lin, wanted to play. apparently the adjustments required of melo and amare were too much to ask for the cause of winning or in service of winning, and the writing was on the wall.

argue 20-20 hindsight if you want-- lin gets hurt, lin is just an average player with a brilliant streak, etc. it doesn't cover over the fact that d'antoni wasn't powerful enough to make his players do what he wanted them to do, and it reflects poorly on amare and melo.

I heard it and did not feel that way at all. I heard a guy taking little tey refusedo no accountability to a situation that he could have handled differently and putting it on his players. Either don't go there with Woj or own up to your own mistakes.

He said that with the way Lin ran the team, and the remarkable success the Knicks experienced, that he wanted Melo to move to the 4 and Amare to come off the bench. They refused to do what he asked-- their own coach with a proven record of success at that time-- and he resigned. He noted that when Melo moved to the 4 out of necessity that that made a big difference, vindicating his vision for the team.

He didn't say that the players refused anything. He said they didn't want to. Did Noah want to go to the bench in Chicago? How about Afflalo? Who makes that call? Who has the responsibility for setting the line up?

It amounts to the exact same thing.