Clean wrote:

djsunyc wrote:but riley is also making the smart move. he is setting himself up for next summer.

Wade was a big part of the reason why big names went to Miami. With the way they treated him I doubt anyone goes to them next year. The Lakers did right by Kobe and Pat pretty much kicked Wade to the curb. How is it possible that Wade has never been the highest paid player on his team. For all the money he gave up for the better of the team they should have done him a solid. While I did not agree the extension the Lakers gave to Kobe at the time, I respect them for taking care of a player who gave his all for them. Don't forget what Pat said to Lebron before Lebron went back to the Cavs. Superstars don't forget those things.

Wade was getting less money from Riley than he deserved, and had taken less to allow the Heat to sign James and Bosh, if I remember correctly.

You wonder if the Whiteside contract was the last straw.

EnySpree wrote:So Butter is a small fwd now?

Welpee wrote:

EnySpree wrote:So Butter is a small fwd now?

Yeah, he's listed as 6'7" but he looks shorter to me.

I thought it was just me. He looks 6'5 to me for some reason maybe but DX has him at 6'6 w/o shoes. He is actually nearly 6'8 in shoes. I was suprised when I first looked at his profile a few years ago that he was so tall. He played a lot of small forward his second year and he defends a lot of small forwards anyway so its not a big adjustment.

The problem is having 3 ball dominant players on the floor together in Rondo, Butler, and Wade.

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SocraticBallin22 wrote:This got me thinking...are the Bulls better than us now?

PG Rose v. Rondo (one is a headcase; one is injury prone; I would rather have Rose right now--advantage Knicks)

SG Lee v. Wade (Lee a perfect role player 3 and D type; Wade an aging superstar---advantage Bulls)

SF Melo v. Butler (Melo at the end of his prime as a superstar; Butler entering his prime as superstar---even for this year)

PF KP v Gibson ( KP the young phenom potential superstar growing into game; Gibson an underrated vet big---advantage Knicks

C Noah v. Rolo ( former DPOY trying to make it back from injuries regain form; underrated solid big expanded game this year--advantage Knicks (if Noah stays healthy)

It's close. Think our starting 5 is slightly better, though.

Healthy, we should be much better. They are only better at the 2, as you indicated. They also have poor balance with no outside shooting. Our lineup has a little of everything, so it should mesh easier.

Knixkik wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:This got me thinking...are the Bulls better than us now?

PG Rose v. Rondo (one is a headcase; one is injury prone; I would rather have Rose right now--advantage Knicks)

SG Lee v. Wade (Lee a perfect role player 3 and D type; Wade an aging superstar---advantage Bulls)

SF Melo v. Butler (Melo at the end of his prime as a superstar; Butler entering his prime as superstar---even for this year)

PF KP v Gibson ( KP the young phenom potential superstar growing into game; Gibson an underrated vet big---advantage Knicks

C Noah v. Rolo ( former DPOY trying to make it back from injuries regain form; underrated solid big expanded game this year--advantage Knicks (if Noah stays healthy)

It's close. Think our starting 5 is slightly better, though.

Healthy, we should be much better. They are only better at the 2, as you indicated. They also have poor balance with no outside shooting. Our lineup has a little of everything, so it should mesh easier.

I was just thinking - the Knicks v Bulls games are going to be fascinating.

Just wondering...

Knixkik wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:This got me thinking...are the Bulls better than us now?

PG Rose v. Rondo (one is a headcase; one is injury prone; I would rather have Rose right now--advantage Knicks)

SG Lee v. Wade (Lee a perfect role player 3 and D type; Wade an aging superstar---advantage Bulls)

SF Melo v. Butler (Melo at the end of his prime as a superstar; Butler entering his prime as superstar---even for this year)

PF KP v Gibson ( KP the young phenom potential superstar growing into game; Gibson an underrated vet big---advantage Knicks

C Noah v. Rolo ( former DPOY trying to make it back from injuries regain form; underrated solid big expanded game this year--advantage Knicks (if Noah stays healthy)

It's close. Think our starting 5 is slightly better, though.

Healthy, we should be much better. They are only better at the 2, as you indicated. They also have poor balance with no outside shooting. Our lineup has a little of everything, so it should mesh easier.

What I thought too. They are individually, on paper, a decent team, but when you look at the ingredients together, that is likely to be a sour tasting cake.

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ESOMKnicks wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Wade should have signed in Cleveland for 1 million less than Riley was offering him. (If Cleveland could have cleared the space.)

Right. I dont get Wade's thinking. I dont see his Bulls being better now than his Heat would have been. And the extra $$$ that he'd be getting from the Bulls are not that much relative to his sneaker deals, ads income. What a way to tarnish one's legacy for virtually nothing.

Huh? Tarnish his legacy? He had taken less money his entire career compared to people of equal talent so his team could win championships. He was also the main reason people agreed to go play in Miami and they didn't even try to find an extra 10M to keep him after promising to do just that for KD. Not comparing Wade to KD but clearly they had the means to find the cap space. Why shouldn't Wade want to increase his career earnings at this point. He has already delivered three championships to Miami he doesn't owe them anything

Why? Well, the same as many of these multimillionaires with so much public appear. How much do you need? He has enough money to help transform aspects of society (if combined with his being well known), along with a handful of other players. When they keep going for the money, that is the message they transmit. If more players (and people for that matter) went or did what makes them happy, many more would follow. And from all walks of life.

Instead of that we have a society that is "me" oriented at the expense of others. And look where it is going.