CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Morey's always been on top of his game with these type of players..

Who has be converted to a useful, long-term rotation player?

I can't think of a lot of guys but he has been doing this for awhile. Troy Daniels? He brought in Patrick Beverly. The Rockets were using their d league team to develop their own guys and also guys they were interessted in better than most of the rest of the nba a few years back. I think teams have caught up but Morey has been resourceful in finding guys.

The point is, if the guy ahead of everyone else on it and who does it all the time hasn't really converted many of these projects into useful players, maybe the practice is overrated?

I think you have to look for talent where ever you can find it. If it involves developing talent at the d league franchises need to embrace that and do it. A lot of guys have come up from the d league. Looking at free agency two big names, Lin and Whiteside both were d leaguers. The Knicks have Lance Thomas and Langston Galloway in the rotation. Both guys are from there. I also think the nba as a whole is using the d league more as a minor league system.

Fair enough. But the data tells us it's pretty much luck of the draw. No one would accuse the Knicks of prioritizing this sort of talent development, but they found Galloway and Thomas somehow anyway.

Again, the data suggests finding diamonds in the rough is likely more luck than skill, and the frequency some of you guys are advocating ti maximize your odds doesn't seem to have given much of an advantage to its biggest practitioner.

The point is sometimes you can believe in an idea based on data and evidence.

And sometimes you can believe in an idea in spite of it.

martin wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Morey's always been on top of his game with these type of players..

Who has be converted to a useful, long-term rotation player?

I can't think of a lot of guys but he has been doing this for awhile. Troy Daniels? He brought in Patrick Beverly. The Rockets were using their d league team to develop their own guys and also guys they were interessted in better than most of the rest of the nba a few years back. I think teams have caught up but Morey has been resourceful in finding guys.

The point is, if the guy ahead of everyone else on it and who does it all the time hasn't really converted many of these projects into useful players, maybe the practice is overrated?

I think you have to look for talent where ever you can find it. If it involves developing talent at the d league franchises need to embrace that and do it. A lot of guys have come up from the d league. Looking at free agency two big names, Lin and Whiteside both were d leaguers. The Knicks have Lance Thomas and Langston Galloway in the rotation. Both guys are from there. I also think the nba as a whole is using the d league more as a minor league system.

Fair enough. But the data tells us it's pretty much luck of the draw. No one would accuse the Knicks of prioritizing this sort of talent development, but they found Galloway and Thomas somehow anyway.

Again, the data suggests finding diamonds in the rough is likely more luck than skill, and the frequency some of you guys are advocating ti maximize your odds doesn't seem to have given much of an advantage to its biggest practitioner.

The point is sometimes you can believe in an idea based on data and evidence.

And sometimes you can believe in an idea in spite of it.

what's the data that supports this? Is it tied back to each franchise and how each has pursued this avenue?

The numbers are so low it's hard to find a study that breaks it down by team. It'd by definition be anecdotal.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160430114810/http://euroleagueadventures.com/undrafted-rookies-the-d-league-and-the-nba-dream/

BRIGGS wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

Welpee wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:It would be a keen signing and well you never know if Steph Curry ever gets disenchanted with GS for some reason--having his brother would be a foot in the door.

You're joking with that part, right?

It's low % and he made a point to acknowledge that but it's something that I've thought all along too when thinking about him.

Seth's well on his way to carving out his own niche. He can play in the NBA for sure--he was good in college, great in the DL and he played VERY WELL for the Kings last year. Lights out shooter and he's a capable passer/facilitator too. Still some decent options at backup PG:

Cat Barber - UDFA on Pel's SL team. I'd approaching him and sign him to a guaranteed contract right now without hesitation.

Seth Curry
Tim Frazier

Gary Payton II - UDFA on the Rockets' SL team. I believe they already inked him up to one of those 3-year partially guaranteed deals. Morey's always been on top of his game with these type of players..Someone to keep an eye on.
Yogi Ferrell - we suddenly like Tim Frazier, huh? Why would we not have brought Ferrell to SL then? Similar player--younger and he'd come cheaper than Frazier. Poor planning by the Knicks not to see where FA could've been headed well ahead of time and then stack the SL team accordingly with much better players than they did. They just don't take SL as seriously as some other teams and it shows. Frustrating as hell .

Corey Walden - on Boston's SL team -- there's no way he makes the Celtics' roster -- I still like him a lot though. A better all-around version of Langston Galloway if you ask me.

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2 SGs I continue to like for us: Terrico White and Jabari Brown. I'd like to go one more deep at this position behind Lee and Holiday if possible.

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Still have to sign Willy H. I wonder what his number is and how that affects signing a guy like Seth Curry or Frazier.

Fine. Pretty much on the spot. There are ufdas like Barber Jones Adams Forbes etc that cost the least and we can control for 4 years. I want to watch all of SL and see how guys perform.

Nobody picked up B.Forbes?? He's the kid that you guaranteed would be a late first round pick. He can shoot the rock so i wouldn't mind bringing him in to see what he can do.

crzymdups wrote:Dallas is building GSW lite with Barnes, Bogut and now S(eth) Curry...

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Why not do a 3 year deal so you have the kid's bird rights??