y2zipper wrote:

Chandler wrote:

y2zipper wrote:My theory on this is that Chicago might believe there's some truth that Durant will sign on to play with a tandem of Butler and Horford. With Rose and Pau off the books, this gets much easier. Chicago could be looking into moving assets to push the Rose contract onto someone else. With an Afflalo/Williams opt-out, The Knicks could take on the contract for a year and maybe an asset going forward. Otherwise there's no reason to consider this...

Interesting. If KD is considering that tandem, I hope he's also considering Melo KP6. There would be some issues to figure out on how to play together in a complementary way, but it would be a more attractive option IMO primarily because KP6 will get better and better -- not clear with Butler and Horford -- they're good but I don't see much future growth at this point

Durant probably doesn't care about future growth. It's likely that he cares most about winning a title during his physical peak, which is the next 3-4 years. I also think everybody knows where Durant stands on places before other movement happens. For example, he isn't considering Houston

My point on this deal is that there's only 2 possibilities here.

1. The Durant/Horford/Butler thing is at least 1% true, and Chicago is going to line it up on the off-chance that Durant actually considers that. In order for that to work, Chicago needs to get Rose off the books and might be willing to part with an asset or two to make it happen. For example, if Williams/Afflalo opt out, the Knicks could take Rose and Gibson and take a pick from Chicago in order to get the contracts off their hands so Chi can offer Horford and Durant money.

2. Chicago is looking to get actual value for Rose, in which case the Knicks should hang up the phone.

I think Horford ends up a Celtic.

EnySpree wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:So you guys wouldn't trade KOQ and Calderon for Rose?

Only one year remaining to his contract ($21.3M), by the way.

Why would the Bulls do that? The money doesn't even match

1st 2 people I thought of...have to admit I did not give the matching money a thought.

newyorker4ever wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:It looks like he got stronger as the season progressed: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/3456/derrick-rose
But I get McDyess flashbacks thinking about this. I appreciate that the front office is thinking a litttl bit outside he box, but I think they should pass.

First of all people need to stop believing that Phil lets anyone know what or who he's actually thinking about talking to or trading for or drafting or whatever else cause Phil keeps his stuff to himself and i'm sure he has S.Mills keeping quiet as well. Phil does not like the media and knows keeping them without any info what so ever on what he's doing is something they hate. There's gonna be many rumors coming out in these next couple of months but it will mostly be the media throwing out stuff so they can stay relevant and hope they guess right on something so they can say they knew. lol

Was thinking the same thing. This leaked for a reason, and its probably not due to real interest in Rose but for someone or something else.

At first glance the deal I could see happen here is O'Quinn, Grant and 2nd round pick for Rose. Knicks do this after July 1 as they can be under the cap to absorb Roses contract.

Lopez/Porzingis
Porzingis/Williams
Melo/Thomas
Afflalo/Galloway
Rose/Calderon

The downside is that Rose will be playing for himself he wants a big contract in a year and he has declined himself from the level he once was at. He will likely be a 1 year investment unless he's willing to be a good teammate, accept his current level and be willing to sign for less in 2017 (unlikely).

I don't love the move but I like it more than giving a max to Conley Rondo or even Batum. None of those players are all stars or superstars and we would pay them 25$m a year to be our 3rd best player. I rather pay 22$M to Rose for a year and let him be the 3rd best player for a year and see what happens while leaving massive cap room for 2017 for potentially two max signings.

CrushAlot wrote:Hoopshype has his salary for next year at $21,323,252. I think if you take that on you give them Jose and get their first round pick. That is a ton of money and puts things on hold for a year. The Knicks don't need to do this. Taking on 15 mil for a year cost a first rounder two years ago with Lin. I think taking on that deal costs the same. I would love to see Gramt/Wroten get the majority of the minutes at the point. This deal would need to really help the Knicks to be worthwhile.

I would actually take this if I were the Knicks. Then I have 2 firsts and I can go into 2017 Free agency with room.