Knixkik wrote:I am not a LeBron fan, but i think he has done enough to justify his place as the 2nd best player of all time, when his career comes to an end.
I agree. I also would argue the notion of "GOAT" has many definitions and perhaps we can say "Miken, Chamberlin, Jabbar, Magic/Bird, Jordan, Lebron......all were generational best of their time. Dominant players who changed the game and could carry a team for a while.
Jabbar was in the league 11 years with just one title before "Showtime" came about. He was able to extend his career because of the team he was on. I put Duncan in the same category. Gentetically gifted and lucky to have the kind of team around them. Oscar Robertson was off the charts but played on some not so great teams. Jerry West went to 9 finals, won just one. Considered the best shooting guard of all time.
To lay that "Lebron has not lived up to expectations" and yet discount 7 trips to the finals to the degree some of you are is a bit harsh. Lebron is perhaps past his prime and the "King" is no longer as powerful.
But As I have discussed before, sometimes its the opponent that is even greater.
"Goat" has many meanings. Statistical anomaly would put Chamberlin at the top. ALl time scoring? Jabbar. Chips? Russell. When we get to Jordan, we get subjective and place a high priority on the "Never lost a chip series". 6 is a great number, the other playoff "Failures" happened in rounds earlier than the Finals. Lebron played in more finals than Jordan. Jordan "Only" played in 6. LOL!!!!! When worded that way, does it tarnish Jordan? Perhaps only if you hate him.