Finestrg wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The only max player who makes sense is Mike Conley. Durant makes no sense.

You do not max out a guy that only gives you 15 and 6 at the point guard spot. Just about every staying pg in the NBA can do that. He's the only established pg starter on the market. Let someone else over pay.

yeah since when did conley become a max player.

Couldn't agree more with you guys. No way you max out Conley or come even close to maxing him out, I don't care how much the cap went up.

If you guys want this team to get the right players to help us get anywhere close to looking like a championship team then we're gonna have to overpay for a certain player or two because if we don't then the next team will, it's how it is in the NBA right now. Is players like Conley, Batum or Derozan worth the max? Nope but if we want to win and be good enough to make any kind of run towards a championship then we'll need a player like that and all 3 will get that max or close to max elsewhere.

Unless you'd rather waste Melo's last 3/4 years and just be a team that will make the 7th/8th seed in the playoffs and lose in the 1st or maybe 2nd round every year until we can draft our way to being respectable. I'd rather go for it while we have Melo playing at his all star level and when Melo is gone we can then build around KP.

Paris907 wrote:It's all about match ups last I checked. Bradley is a lock down defender and 1st team last I checked. He's a solid player and a meaningful upgrade to where we are now. We don't need to pay Conley $25 mm as he's in his down cycle already. So is Melo. He can no longer shoot as he has. Likewise KP and Durant are lights out shooters and having Melo creates a jam at either the 3 or 4. At 32 just what do you believe you can get for Melo? Fine Ainge would throw in a draft pick but you ain't getting much more for Melo.

You're so far off on these comments. Melo's shooting was off last year and i put most of it on his knee injury and him changing his game to fit the triangle and think he'll shoot much better next year. Melo will also bring back a great return in a young player or two and a 1st round pick and who knows we might even get a 2nd rounder thrown in the deal, unfortunately i don't think we'll be finding out unless Lebron can talk him into coming to Clev which won't happen IMO, Melo will be a Knick next season.

GustavBahler wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

tj23 wrote:There's no reason Melo and KD can't co exist. Sure a very good PG would possibly pair better but 2 shooters can play in the same offense. *cough* Golden State

Knicks would need a very good PG they can afford to make it work with two former scoring champions on the roster, and a budding franchise player to keep busy as well. One more reason to keep someone like Lopez who doesn't complain about touches.

Not against it, but it would be very important to find a PG smart enough to keep everyone on the same page. Dont care how much the Triangle is run, we would need a very solid PG with playoff experience. Doesn't have to be in his prime, just enough left in the tank for a couple of seasons while Grant and Wroten develop. Thats what the Knicks need even if Durant doesn't come here if we want to watch them make a run at the playoffs..

if KD did come here then I'd say NY would have a 55% chance of landing Paul the next summer.

Would be great, but could we afford them both? Wouldn't want a depleted roster to make it work.

We'll have around $27 million to spend next off season with the cap going up around $20 mil and Calderon coming off the books at $7.7 mil.

That's a loser mentality. The good teams don't have overpaid players taking up their cap. Traditionally that's all we've had, from Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Weatherspoon, eiesly, Shandon, Houston...amare. We just can't do that anymore. There's too many basketball players out there to just settle and drown our ability to improve the team because we have so much money invested in mediocre players

EnySpree wrote:The Knicks have been over paying the last 20 years for over the hill players or players that just aren't that good.... I thought we wanted to get away from that.... but no "that's the way the nba is right now" so we should look to do what hasn't worked for us for 20 years because of a trend in 2016?

That's a loser mentality. The good teams don't have overpaid players taking up their cap. Traditionally that's all we've had, from Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Weatherspoon, eiesly, Shandon, Houston...amare. We just can't do that anymore. There's too many basketball players out there to just settle and drown our ability to improve the team because we have so much money invested in mediocre players

Are you sure the good teams don't have overpaid players cause i'm pretty sure some of them do especially Cleveland??

Letting that go, of course he would be a good pick up. Stick Conley next to Courtney Lee and lets go. KP, Melo, Rolo, Conley and Courtney. Fuck it

EnySpree wrote:The Knicks have been over paying the last 20 years for over the hill players or players that just aren't that good.... I thought we wanted to get away from that.... but no "that's the way the nba is right now" so we should look to do what hasn't worked for us for 20 years because of a trend in 2016?

That's a loser mentality. The good teams don't have overpaid players taking up their cap. Traditionally that's all we've had, from Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Weatherspoon, eiesly, Shandon, Houston...amare. We just can't do that anymore. There's too many basketball players out there to just settle and drown our ability to improve the team because we have so much money invested in mediocre players

newyorker4ever wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The only max player who makes sense is Mike Conley. Durant makes no sense.

You do not max out a guy that only gives you 15 and 6 at the point guard spot. Just about every staying pg in the NBA can do that. He's the only established pg starter on the market. Let someone else over pay.

yeah since when did conley become a max player.

Couldn't agree more with you guys. No way you max out Conley or come even close to maxing him out, I don't care how much the cap went up.

If you guys want this team to get the right players to help us get anywhere close to looking like a championship team then we're gonna have to overpay for a certain player or two because if we don't then the next team will, it's how it is in the NBA right now. Is players like Conley, Batum or Derozan worth the max? Nope but if we want to win and be good enough to make any kind of run towards a championship then we'll need a player like that and all 3 will get that max or close to max elsewhere.

Unless you'd rather waste Melo's last 3/4 years and just be a team that will make the 7th/8th seed in the playoffs and lose in the 1st or maybe 2nd round every year until we can draft our way to being respectable. I'd rather go for it while we have Melo playing at his all star level and when Melo is gone we can then build around KP.

I want absolutely nothing to do with this team looking like a championship team if it involves signing albatross contracts like the one Melo has. I don't care if we get Conley or not, I don't care if we get into the first round to lose again or not.I want this team to be built from ground up with young two way players. Everything else is STOOPID, IMO

Oh, like the Sixers! How's that working for them?

Sometimes no need get panic of the term 'max'. It is just a matter of time.