crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I think Rondo and Evan Turner are big candidates. I hope Brandon Jennings gets a look, too. I wonder if they think they can make a play for Conley? I'd still love Conley and I'd even be okay with overpaying him.

But, yes, glad to hear Mills acknowledge this. It does sort of conflict with what Phil Jackson has said - his comments that we wouldn't get caught up in overpaying for a lead guard and maybe we'd go underground to get one. I think Phil thinks Wroten can be that guy, not sure Mills agrees. Also, Hornacek has never mentioned Wroten in any of his comments on the team's roster, particularly when talking about guards.

Wondering if Mills and JH will push to spend on a point guard. I sort of hope they do.

That would be one of the worst three point shooting backcourts in the league.

KP and Melo are both great shooters though. I agree we'd need more shooting though. Maybe try to bring in Courtney Lee as well.

Crunch time lineup:

Wroten/Grant
Turner
CLee
Melo
KP

That lineup can shoot for the most part.

I could deal with that. I made a post yesterday that i said a really great off season that could be realistic would be to get S.Curry, E,Turner and C.Lee. I'd be absolutely ecstatic if we could get those three and if we could find a way to also bring D.Williams and L.Thomas back, wow that would be awesome. Curry and Lee can shoot the rock and Turner can do everything but hit the 3 ball.

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:Just a thought but JH's coaching style is to let his players play. Carlisle is much more hands on calling plays all the time. Rondo may actually be a good fit with JH. They'd need to talk it out but maybe it's not such a bad fit.

Yeah, I agree. There's a lot JH does that would appeal to Rondo - push the pace, pick and roll, read and react offense. Rondo is a cerebral PG. he may see it as a good fit. I don't think we'll know if they're simpatico or not til they talk.

it would be a lot easier to "see" Rondo on this team if he had a real marksman as a SG (Ray Allen type)

crzymdups wrote:Thought this was a pretty decent and even-handed take on Evan Turner. Turns out he's a near elite defender, and as we know, a bad outside shooter, but very good mid-range shooter and average at the rim..

https://nykinformation.com/2016/06/09/knicks-need-wings-is-evan-turner-actually-good-now/

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Thought this was a pretty decent and even-handed take on Evan Turner. Turns out he's a near elite defender, and as we know, a bad outside shooter, but very good mid-range shooter and average at the rim..

https://nykinformation.com/2016/06/09/knicks-need-wings-is-evan-turner-actually-good-now/

Ive seen enough of Turner to think otherwise. He's a good defender. He's really good in a team concept. He's got great fundamentals but he's not Shane Battier or Artest or Spree for that matter. Not really in favor of giving him big money.

Another reason to like Turner is he should come at a price where the knicks could get another good player (Crabbe, C. Lee, Tyler Johnson) to join the starters and he could be featured as the 6th man for the knicks. At the end of the day the overall roster needs a talent upgrade and Turner should come cheaper than his overall talent is worth based on his reputation prior to Boston and his inability to hit a 3 ball (which is the stat everyone wants these days).

I could see him playing the role Gerald green (minus the 3pt shot) had in the offense in phoenix, as the off the bench scoring Big, but as a better passer which might open things up too.

Lopez/Porzingis
Porzingis/Melo/Williams
Melo/Thomas
Vujacic/Galloway/Grant
Conley/Calderon

Basically a similar team to last year with a big change in Afflalo to Conley.

Need Sasha, Gallloway, Lance Thomas and Derrick Williams all comfortable running up the floor quickly, and spotting up for 3 pointers. They already know how to cut and move in the Triangle. What they breed is more freedom and comfort to shoot the ball as well as constantly run up the floor.

Jose as a backup will also be a much much more reliable and valuable backup than Grant was last year. Grant I think can carve a niche for himself as a combo guard capable of playing 2 and 1.