A team that would take on Lopez for salary cap could be the Lakers or Celtics. Both teams need a Center badly. If we do that, then I think signing Durant and A point guard as well are not out of the equation.

We can go on and on about this. He'll consider the knicks because he is a free agent and will do the visit thing. Sitting with Phil is informative for him and phil does deserve the respect. If asked, he might list 10 teams he would "consider" out of respect. He's doing his due diligence.

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Does he really need to use any other team for leverage?

He gets a Max contract wherever he ends up, but gets more with OKC, right?

If he goes to another team besides OKC he has to be looking at a team he feels he can win a title with, and one he fits in with well in terms of his playing style.

Would the Knicks offer him the best chance for a title?

They do offer a best chance at a championship simply because they are in the east. If he signs with the Knicks the Knicks automatically get catapulted to favorite status even over the Cavs.

your logic is flawed ... he should not look at how much he makes a team but which team that he makes better ends up being the best team.

EwingsGlass wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

but i don't think, actually i know that KD doesn't need to use smoke screens to help any negotiations with any other teams.

I'd agree with this - but I'm not skeptical of KD using NY for leverage. I'm skeptical of SAS and Skip using the NY market for views and hits on the ESPN website.

Exactly- it's never going to happen.dont see how melo and KD would work anyways, plus it would seriously diminish KP as those two would devour most of the shots.

KP
Melo
KD
______
______

This doesn't work for you in a small ball lineup (Megadeath)?

With that Triad, the vets minimum will fill in the blanks. It is one thing to say this is media fabrication and no chance, but it is poor analysis to say they can't make this work. This might be the model to take down GS. The spread on the floor created solely from front court would be ridiculous. The number of free throws taken would be off the charts. And Kpor can shoot over pretty much anyone other than Anthony Davis.... He'll get his looks.

It's a great daydream that KD comes. But make no mistake.... You sign him if he is willing. All day everyday.

6-8, 6-11 and 7'3 and we calling that "small"? LOL
Durant/Melo are wing players. You need one primary ball handler and Rolo can still be in that line up. If not, trade him for a high athletic big with less offensive skill. A "Triston Thompson/Biyombo" type.

Make no bones about it, Durant comes its because Phil/Horn created a vision of application that excited him. That's a three year window, and yes, guys will come to be part of that at a low price. Mark west gave up 10 million to be in SAS. Im not saying that will happen often, but some guys will finish a career to be a part of something fun. WInning in NY can be fun!

Vmart wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Does he really need to use any other team for leverage?

He gets a Max contract wherever he ends up, but gets more with OKC, right?

If he goes to another team besides OKC he has to be looking at a team he feels he can win a title with, and one he fits in with well in terms of his playing style.

Would the Knicks offer him the best chance for a title?

They do offer a best chance at a championship simply because they are in the east. If he signs with the Knicks the Knicks automatically get catapulted to favorite status even over the Cavs.

your logic is flawed ... he should not look at how much he makes a team but which team that he makes better ends up being the best team.

OKC has a very good roster the Knicks are nowhere near that level

It seems like that right take Durant off the team what do they have? Westbrook and Ibaka. The rest is very similar to what the Knicks have. Knicks offer Prozingis, Melo. So having Durant makes them look real good. They are just another team without him.

Come on Westbrook is a top 5 player. We have nothing comparable to Westbrook. They were legitimately a few good minutes from winning t hat series 4-1. Now granted KD changes the tide for any team and we have some good players--only problem really is wed have 3---3-4's would not complain right? but the chemistry might be odd--would have to use KP at 5.

Nalod wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

but i don't think, actually i know that KD doesn't need to use smoke screens to help any negotiations with any other teams.

I'd agree with this - but I'm not skeptical of KD using NY for leverage. I'm skeptical of SAS and Skip using the NY market for views and hits on the ESPN website.

Exactly- it's never going to happen.dont see how melo and KD would work anyways, plus it would seriously diminish KP as those two would devour most of the shots.

KP
Melo
KD
______
______

This doesn't work for you in a small ball lineup (Megadeath)?

With that Triad, the vets minimum will fill in the blanks. It is one thing to say this is media fabrication and no chance, but it is poor analysis to say they can't make this work. This might be the model to take down GS. The spread on the floor created solely from front court would be ridiculous. The number of free throws taken would be off the charts. And Kpor can shoot over pretty much anyone other than Anthony Davis.... He'll get his looks.

It's a great daydream that KD comes. But make no mistake.... You sign him if he is willing. All day everyday.

6-8, 6-11 and 7'3 and we calling that "small"? LOL
Durant/Melo are wing players. You need one primary ball handler and Rolo can still be in that line up. If not, trade him for a high athletic big with less offensive skill. A "Triston Thompson/Biyombo" type.

Make no bones about it, Durant comes its because Phil/Horn created a vision of application that excited him. That's a three year window, and yes, guys will come to be part of that at a low price. Mark west gave up 10 million to be in SAS. Im not saying that will happen often, but some guys will finish a career to be a part of something fun. WInning in NY can be fun!

David West

dk7th wrote:lopez durant kp with melo off the bench as 6th man extraordinaire would solve chemistry issues and make the knicks a contender. melo is older and breaking down and it'd time to put him in the best position where he can be most effective. only his ego and vanity would be an obstacle but if he wants to win that'd be the route to take. jackson and hornacek could persuade him.

yes lets make melo come off the bench after he had his most complete season, after he turned heads around from even naysayers like you.
he's already in pass mode and great at it by the way, averaging 5 assists a game. so lets put him on the bench where all he'd have to do is score.

if durant comes to the knicks, you start wroten/grant (as of now) with durant, melo, kp and rolo on the floor. i dont see anyone else starting at SG if durant comes here, do you?

also if we max out durant, i dont think we have enough money left to pay an experienced starting SG.

Cartman718 wrote:

dk7th wrote:lopez durant kp with melo off the bench as 6th man extraordinaire would solve chemistry issues and make the knicks a contender. melo is older and breaking down and it'd time to put him in the best position where he can be most effective. only his ego and vanity would be an obstacle but if he wants to win that'd be the route to take. jackson and hornacek could persuade him.

yes lets make melo come off the bench after he had his most complete season, after he turned heads around from even naysayers like you.
he's already in pass mode and great at it by the way, averaging 5 assists a game. so lets put him on the bench where all he'd have to do is score.

if durant comes to the knicks, you start wroten/grant (as of now) with durant, melo, kp and rolo on the floor. i dont see anyone else starting at SG if durant comes here, do you?

also if we max out durant, i dont think we have enough money left to pay an experienced starting SG.

iguodala, ginobili, havlicek, and i am sure there are others have helped their teams win it all in sixth man roles. it isn't unheard of. you want the same style of ball 1 through 10 and there is zero reason why melo as a leader of a second unit cannot play exactly as great as he did for 30 games last season as a starter. he's here for a few more seasons and this switch would keep him fresher and healthier.

i don't know if it is possible but i'd think a lineup of kp, kd, lopez, turner and galloway would be hard to beat.

then melo, grant, calderon, thomas, hernangomez makes for a deep deep team.

Start KD, Melo and KP but we need to pick up some big guards w/ a decent shooting percentages or strong penetrators (maybe Wroten pans out) who can also rebound and as much as I like Lopez we need a better rebounder then him who can run the fast break. Tall, athletic and fast is how we can win a championship.

dk7th wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

dk7th wrote:lopez durant kp with melo off the bench as 6th man extraordinaire would solve chemistry issues and make the knicks a contender. melo is older and breaking down and it'd time to put him in the best position where he can be most effective. only his ego and vanity would be an obstacle but if he wants to win that'd be the route to take. jackson and hornacek could persuade him.

yes lets make melo come off the bench after he had his most complete season, after he turned heads around from even naysayers like you.
he's already in pass mode and great at it by the way, averaging 5 assists a game. so lets put him on the bench where all he'd have to do is score.

if durant comes to the knicks, you start wroten/grant (as of now) with durant, melo, kp and rolo on the floor. i dont see anyone else starting at SG if durant comes here, do you?

also if we max out durant, i dont think we have enough money left to pay an experienced starting SG.

iguodala, ginobili, havlicek, and i am sure there are others have helped their teams win it all in sixth man roles. it isn't unheard of. you want the same style of ball 1 through 10 and there is zero reason why melo as a leader of a second unit cannot play exactly as great as he did for 30 games last season as a starter. he's here for a few more seasons and this switch would keep him fresher and healthier.

i don't know if it is possible but i'd think a lineup of kp, kd, lopez, turner and galloway would be hard to beat.

then melo, grant, calderon, thomas, hernangomez makes for a deep deep team.

iguodala, ginobili...seriously? were they EVER even the best players even on their own team, were they EVER in the MVP running?
fresher and healthier, yes cut Melo's mins down a bit. You do realize that he has to work so hard with his body because the coach Fisher couldn't run any plays for the team and when Woodson was around he pretty much relegated to iso-Melo ball.

You do not start the game with your prize stallions coming off the bench. That just puts more pressure on your own team. You start a lineup of PG, KD, Melo, KP, Lopez.... that starting lineup will send chills down opposing teams.

Invariably, the expectation would be that we'd be leading most teams in scoring by the time its time to sub in the 1st quarter, that's when you have the bench players playing loosey-goosey, because they don't have much pressure on them.