EnySpree wrote:

wh4t wrote:

nixluva wrote:

wh4t wrote:nope, next

Not cool to just say NO! You've gotta put up a name or two yourself.

I already have but it's hard searching through old posts. I'll contribute and provide a good analysis if one of y'all post about a player worth mentioning.

So you're contribution is posting only when someone else says something and will only post something worth the English language if someone mentions a starphuch

We acquire Curry and Crabbe in free agency

And Maker Gbinjie and Forbes in the draft

We go to atleast a top 3 NBA 3 point shooting team over night and we add a guy who darn near looks like Shaq to our frontline of KP and Lopez and enhances it for the next 15 years with KP.

In the east thats good for a 2-3 seed in year 1 and if we get things right--will allow us to compete for chips every year for a LONG time.

BRIGGS wrote:Lets say hypothetical

We acquire Curry and Crabbe in free agency

And Maker Gbinjie and Forbes in the draft

We go to atleast a top 3 NBA 3 point shooting team over night and we add a guy who darn near looks like Shaq to our frontline of KP and Lopez and enhances it for the next 15 years with KP.

In the east thats good for a 2-3 seed in year 1 and if we get things right--will allow us to compete for chips every year for a LONG time.

I think you've gone past hypothetic to fantasy.

I wont even go back that fa other than Manu

Danny Green pick #46
Patty Mills pick #55
Manu Ginobli pick #58
Tony Parker pick #28

They were able to surround Tim Duncan with great players in round 2 and I believe 100% we can do the same. If you are a guy running the team--you have to feel like you can do the same with smart work. Golden State just did it--its work with what you have. This year the 2nd round is filled up --as mu8ch riches as you could want from a 2nd round and deep to undrafted. To me--what makes sense is to fill roster spots 13-15 and even the rights to players through aggressive 2nd round execution.

Were going against 29 other teams in free agency--its real easy to say stupid idea--when you have no idea your self. I try to balance the roster--first 12 are my players 3 are my development--2 of whc should be able to help me in a pinch. Maybe you have 1 vet in that 13-15 but thats it.

Chandler wrote:^^ so why are you throwing 90 million of Dolan's money at Seth and Crabbe, both second rounders? Why not just pick version 2.0 of same and pay them 500k like Josh Richardson in Miami?

notice that SAS and Miami picked those guys -- didn't buy them for gobs of money

If a guy like Josh Richardson(whom I liked before last years draft) goes on to play at the level he is when his contract runs out next year--he'll get his too. If you play well in the NBA and your re a young free agent on top of it--you're getting paid.

The guys I mentioned Gbinjie Maker Forbes Jones jr I personally have them all as top 25 picks. Its all in the beauty of the beholder.

BRIGGS wrote:Branden Jennings who has shot .389 for his CAREER?????? who's been on a shtty team every year of his career--hes going to change our fortunes???? Ill sit by my stupid suggestions.

I kinda agree about Jennings - but it stupid to suggest we're suddenly going to turn into SAS and find 4 or 5 nuggets in the second round/FA this off season. See what we did last year?

Baby steps. If we're lucky.

callmened wrote:bazemore, jennings, crabbe, turner etc...these are all stop gap mediocre role players. i keep saying build thru the draft. hinkie was onto something but he was too deliberate and Arrogant about it. instead of winning 10 games a yr, knicks should lease shooting guards who cant shoot like turner and win 25-30 games a yr. get as any draft picks as u can and hopefully one becomes a star...like kp. build a nice young foundation and then instead of debating about which mediocre free agent will come, the discussion then becomes which begging all star do we choose from.

I love these posts where someone bashes yet has no plan. Yep we know Lebron James isn't coming here neither is Westbrook.

BRIGGS wrote:

callmened wrote:bazemore, jennings, crabbe, turner etc...these are all stop gap mediocre role players. i keep saying build thru the draft. hinkie was onto something but he was too deliberate and Arrogant about it. instead of winning 10 games a yr, knicks should lease shooting guards who cant shoot like turner and win 25-30 games a yr. get as any draft picks as u can and hopefully one becomes a star...like kp. build a nice young foundation and then instead of debating about which mediocre free agent will come, the discussion then becomes which begging all star do we choose from.

I love these posts where someone bashes yet has no plan. Yep we know Lebron James isn't coming here neither is Westbrook.

IMO Phil is gonna have the money and so I would expect that he'll be looking at FA's to augment the missing perimeter shooting. Spending on young 3nD guards is not a bad investment as long as you're also adding draft picks and UDFA's on cheaper contracts. I don't think the Knicks are gonna be able to get any of the Elite perimeter players this summer.

It's gonna depend on what Horn decides to do with the offense. If he's not going to stick to heavy Triangle but rather his uptempo with a little Triangle mixed in, then that to me means Phil will likely NOT go after Evan Turner. Horn isn't big on Midrange Shooting so Turner wouldn't make sense for how he wants to play. Crabbe and Bazemore would make much more sense.

Now with Horn as the coach a Seth Curry makes even more sense IMO. The only knock on Seth is that he hasn't really had a lot of NBA games under his belt. It's somewhat of a risk judging him based on 44 NBA games. Jennings has had more experience and so he's much more of a known quantity.

callmened wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Lets say hypothetical

We acquire Curry and Crabbe in free agency

And Maker Gbinjie and Forbes in the draft

We go to atleast a top 3 NBA 3 point shooting team over night and we add a guy who darn near looks like Shaq to our frontline of KP and Lopez and enhances it for the next 15 years with KP.

In the east thats good for a 2-3 seed in year 1 and if we get things right--will allow us to compete for chips every year for a LONG time.

sigh...three 2nd rd draft picks, a scrub with good blood lines and a back up guard makes us a #2-3 seed for several yrs...sigh

im not gonna say any bad comments. i dont want to burst anyone's bubble. lets just say i dont agree

in re-reading these comments, i realize that this couldve come off as insulting. that truly wasnt my intention and for that i apologize. i respect BRIGGS and what he has to say and i always look forward to his post. in fact, i believe we ARE on the same page - invest in the draft or find sleeper free agents. i simply differ on how much to pay or how much success to expect.

EnySpree wrote:Guys like Conley and Jennings we have to avoid. I'd rather go with Grant and Wroten and save the big money for guys that deserve it, not because the market is jacked up

Agreed. We have done too much of this in the past. Chase the players name and past performance wihout evaluating the health risks and true future potential. Just see both of these as risks at such a high price point. Agree with Brigs in that we can steal get some young talent in the 1nd round by trading or cash. Also like players under radar like Augustune, Bayless and Lee who will come at much cheaper price. It would bw great to get another premier scorer but just doesn't see guys like Derozan or Batum leaving their current teams.

BRIGGS wrote:

Chandler wrote:^^ so why are you throwing 90 million of Dolan's money at Seth and Crabbe, both second rounders? Why not just pick version 2.0 of same and pay them 500k like Josh Richardson in Miami?

notice that SAS and Miami picked those guys -- didn't buy them for gobs of money

If a guy like Josh Richardson(whom I liked before last years draft) goes on to play at the level he is when his contract runs out next year--he'll get his too. If you play well in the NBA and your re a young free agent on top of it--you're getting paid.

The guys I mentioned Gbinjie Maker Forbes Jones jr I personally have them all as top 25 picks. Its all in the beauty of the beholder.

You forgot to answer his question which was if we can build with some 2nd round picks then why spend $90 mil on Curry and Crabbe??