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Knicks focus at coach is now Rambis.... and Blatt?
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4/21/2016  10:24 PM
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newyorker4ever wrote:Here's some of the Cavs players talking about D.Blatt. I don't know when these comment were made but seems like he was well liked. The article is actually about Blatt being fine with running the triangle.

http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knicks/a/source/knicks-rumors-david-blatt-willing-to-run-triangle-offense-12411646

Nice, thanks.


Here's a compilation of Blatt in time outs.

I would honestly be excited if we brought him in and he and Phil could be on the same page.

Great video

This probably why he was pushed out of Cleveland. These NBA divas cant handle that kind of talk....

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4/21/2016  10:47 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:Here's some of the Cavs players talking about D.Blatt. I don't know when these comment were made but seems like he was well liked. The article is actually about Blatt being fine with running the triangle.

http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knicks/a/source/knicks-rumors-david-blatt-willing-to-run-triangle-offense-12411646

Nice, thanks.


Here's a compilation of Blatt in time outs.

I would honestly be excited if we brought him in and he and Phil could be on the same page.

Great video

This probably why he was pushed out of Cleveland. These NBA divas cant handle that kind of talk....

It's also why he might be good for a young group in NY. The younger players on this team would be more compliant rather than resistant to hard coaching. It would be good for this team to take on his feisty personality!

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4/22/2016  1:29 AM
From WSJ:
Blatt abides by the Princeton offense's principles, he has said, though tweaked for the modern game. That means his system depends on proper floor spacing. To achieve that, his offenses lean on the "stretch four," or a power forward who plays on the perimeter, the position that has overtaken the NBA in recent years. Stretch fours are useful not only because they're added shooting threats. Their absence down low also opens up the lane and makes it easier for drivers, like James, to finish around the rim.

"This is the different and unique style in Europe," said former Blatt assistant coach Guy Goodes, his Maccabi Tel Aviv successor.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-an-unknown-coach-will-make-lebron-even-better-1406598532

Looks custom made for a team with someone like KP. And considering his record of winning championships with crap teams, looks like the right fit for the Knicks right now.

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4/22/2016  6:33 AM
Are Blatt and Jackson gonna keep flirting with each other or are they gonna lock in a deal? Sources say Blatt has no problem with the triangle. Sources say Jackson thinks Blatt has a beautiful basketball mind. Its like in highschool. You and the girl you like using your friends to pass messages to each other.
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4/22/2016  10:55 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:From WSJ:
Blatt abides by the Princeton offense's principles, he has said, though tweaked for the modern game. That means his system depends on proper floor spacing. To achieve that, his offenses lean on the "stretch four," or a power forward who plays on the perimeter, the position that has overtaken the NBA in recent years. Stretch fours are useful not only because they're added shooting threats. Their absence down low also opens up the lane and makes it easier for drivers, like James, to finish around the rim.

"This is the different and unique style in Europe," said former Blatt assistant coach Guy Goodes, his Maccabi Tel Aviv successor.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-an-unknown-coach-will-make-lebron-even-better-1406598532

Looks custom made for a team with someone like KP. And considering his record of winning championships with crap teams, looks like the right fit for the Knicks right now.

So the teams he coached were considered crap teams?? I obviously pay no attention to any euro team so i don't know who's good or who's bad but if true then it's good to hear because it means he's getting everything out of his players and if he's beating the better teams then he obviously is a very good coach, hopefully it can translate to the NBA teams because there's an obvious difference and don't think he can talk to NBA players the way he did with these euro players but it seems like he's a smart enough guy to know how to speak to players and that he can't speak the same way to these NBA guys.

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4/22/2016  10:58 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Are Blatt and Jackson gonna keep flirting with each other or are they gonna lock in a deal? Sources say Blatt has no problem with the triangle. Sources say Jackson thinks Blatt has a beautiful basketball mind. Its like in highschool. You and the girl you like using your friends to pass messages to each other.

Phil is most likely waiting on Luke before he hires Blatt or Rambis or anyone else, if he hires someone before the playoffs are over then i would think he got his answer from Luke already.

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4/22/2016  11:37 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Are Blatt and Jackson gonna keep flirting with each other or are they gonna lock in a deal? Sources say Blatt has no problem with the triangle. Sources say Jackson thinks Blatt has a beautiful basketball mind. Its like in highschool. You and the girl you like using your friends to pass messages to each other.

season is 9 days past and your humping for a new coach already?

While from a pure basketball perspective Phil could make a pure play but there is an charismatic perspective to the job and that is why many repel from Rambis.
The coach does become an important face of the franchise.

Not literally....

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4/22/2016  11:42 AM
Phil isn't in a rush regarding the coach cuz he's got someone in place if he were to strike out on both Luke and Blatt. There's no need for him to panic from his standpoint. People may not agree with him, but he's not in a desperate situation. He can afford to be patient and wait to see what Luke decides before he pulls the trigger on a coach.
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4/22/2016  11:44 AM
nixluva wrote:Phil isn't in a rush regarding the coach cuz he's got someone in place if he were to strike out on both Luke and Blatt. There's no need for him to panic from his standpoint. People may not agree with him, but he's not in a desperate situation. He can afford to be patient and wait to see what Luke decides before he pulls the trigger on a coach.
im fine with him being patient although it could be dangerous if other teams start showing more serious interest. Im not gonna lie i wanted Thibs here but now we gotta get the next best available
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4/22/2016  11:45 AM
nixluva wrote:Phil isn't in a rush regarding the coach cuz he's got someone in place if he were to strike out on both Luke and Blatt. There's no need for him to panic from his standpoint. People may not agree with him, but he's not in a desperate situation. He can afford to be patient and wait to see what Luke decides before he pulls the trigger on a coach.

Yeah i think it's all about Luke right now. He is the 1st choice. Blatt is hopefully 2nd. Rambis will be back in some role regardless.

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4/22/2016  12:26 PM
Knixkik wrote:
nixluva wrote:Phil isn't in a rush regarding the coach cuz he's got someone in place if he were to strike out on both Luke and Blatt. There's no need for him to panic from his standpoint. People may not agree with him, but he's not in a desperate situation. He can afford to be patient and wait to see what Luke decides before he pulls the trigger on a coach.

Yeah i think it's all about Luke right now. He is the 1st choice. Blatt is hopefully 2nd. Rambis will be back in some role regardless.

Am I wrong to think Blatt would be a better choice than Luke Walton?

I mean, I love Luke - but we already tried the first time head coach thing.

What happens if we hire Luke and we start the year 5 & 10? With a rookie head coach, there will be questions about is it the team that's bad, or the coach that isn't getting the most out of everyone. And yes, there will be questions about if Melo is at fault.

But with Blatt, a slow start and I think the pressure is more on the players.

We have enough question marks with the roster next year. We don't need another.

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4/22/2016  12:33 PM
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newyorknewyork wrote:Are Blatt and Jackson gonna keep flirting with each other or are they gonna lock in a deal? Sources say Blatt has no problem with the triangle. Sources say Jackson thinks Blatt has a beautiful basketball mind. Its like in highschool. You and the girl you like using your friends to pass messages to each other.

season is 9 days past and your humping for a new coach already?

While from a pure basketball perspective Phil could make a pure play but there is an charismatic perspective to the job and that is why many repel from Rambis.
The coach does become an important face of the franchise.

Not literally....

So what your saying is that Phil is only a tease.

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4/23/2016  4:56 AM
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ESOMKnicks wrote:
Looks custom made for a team with someone like KP. And considering his record of winning championships with crap teams, looks like the right fit for the Knicks right now.

So the teams he coached were considered crap teams?? I obviously pay no attention to any euro team so i don't know who's good or who's bad but if true then it's good to hear because it means he's getting everything out of his players and if he's beating the better teams then he obviously is a very good coach, hopefully it can translate to the NBA teams because there's an obvious difference and don't think he can talk to NBA players the way he did with these euro players but it seems like he's a smart enough guy to know how to speak to players and that he can't speak the same way to these NBA guys.

He coached Russia to its first and only European championship title and its first and only Olympic medal (bronze).

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4/23/2016  6:29 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Nalod wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Are Blatt and Jackson gonna keep flirting with each other or are they gonna lock in a deal? Sources say Blatt has no problem with the triangle. Sources say Jackson thinks Blatt has a beautiful basketball mind. Its like in highschool. You and the girl you like using your friends to pass messages to each other.

season is 9 days past and your humping for a new coach already?

While from a pure basketball perspective Phil could make a pure play but there is an charismatic perspective to the job and that is why many repel from Rambis.
The coach does become an important face of the franchise.

Not literally....

So what your saying is that Phil is only a tease.

Im saying JVG not the prettiest coach!

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4/23/2016  12:30 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Looks custom made for a team with someone like KP. And considering his record of winning championships with crap teams, looks like the right fit for the Knicks right now.

So the teams he coached were considered crap teams?? I obviously pay no attention to any euro team so i don't know who's good or who's bad but if true then it's good to hear because it means he's getting everything out of his players and if he's beating the better teams then he obviously is a very good coach, hopefully it can translate to the NBA teams because there's an obvious difference and don't think he can talk to NBA players the way he did with these euro players but it seems like he's a smart enough guy to know how to speak to players and that he can't speak the same way to these NBA guys.

He coached Russia to its first and only European championship title and its first and only Olympic medal (bronze).

Ok, and how does that make them a crap team?? How do you know they didn't retool that team in the off season and they were a good team??

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4/23/2016  2:09 PM
For some reference on Blatt and his actual coaching ability this article does a nice job of summarizing his work.

In March of 2006, the Russian federation was not looking for documents, but rather a good coach for its national team. And it chose David Blatt. In some way, the Israeli bureaucracy paved the way to glory for Blatt. Who knows what would have happened if Blatt had coached Israel instead of Russia? The Russians noticed Blatt when he managed to take the modest Dynamo to victory in the FIBA Eurochallenge with a 20-0 record. In the final, played on April 28 in Istanbul in front of 7,500 fans, Dynamo defeated BC Kyiv by 85-74. Kelly McCarty scored 24 points, Ognjen Askrabic 14, Ed Cota had 15 plus 8 rebounds and 6 assists. Granted, it was not a huge accomplishment, but a 20-0 record is something to take notice of!

Holden's golden shot

Blatt's first goal with Russia was putting the team in the 2007 EuroBasket, to be played in Spain. In the qualification group with the Czech Republic, Hungary and Belgium, Russia advanced without big difficulties thanks to a 5-1 record. The only loss came in Hungary, 76-70. After that, the way to glory started in Granada with group wins against Serbia, Israel and Greece. In the second phase, already in Madrid, Russia defeated Portugal and Croatia and then lost to Spain (69-81). In quarterfinals, the victim was France (75-71) and then in semis it was the turn of Lithuania (86-74). An overconfident Spain was waiting again in the title game.

During the halftime break of the final, with Spain leading 34-31, volunteers started handing invitations to the press for the title celebration... but Blatt and his boys were not having any of that. With a three-pointer by J.R. Holden at the start of the last quarter, the Russian team was back in the game, 51-49. With 27 seconds to go, and with Spain leading 59-58, Holden made a steal. Blatt didn't have any timeouts left, but could talk to Holden. With 2.7 seconds left, Holden scored a basket that gave Russia the win and the gold medal. Once after that, Blatt told me some details about one of the most famous baskets ever in EuroBasket.

"When Spain missed its play I didn't have another timeout, so I just shouted to J.R. to wait a little and finish off the play by himself. What he did reminded me a little about that famous play by Michael Jordan in the sixth game of the NBA Finals in 1998. Holden almost did the same," Blatt said.

That win in Madrid finally opened all doors for David Blatt. He became a valued coach and he was at the top of the wish list of many big clubs. He coached Efes Pilsen, Dynamo Moscow and Aris Thessaloniki, but his dream was to go back to Maccabi Tel Aviv, where he had been Pini Gershon's assistant for some years and even head coach for a couple seasons, reaching the Euroleague Final Four in 2002. Finally, in 2010, the call came from Tel Aviv. Blatt was back to Maccabi and stayed in that bench for four years, sharing the job with that of the Russian national team until 2012. With Russia, Blatt won more medals: a bronze in the 2011 EuroBasket in Lithuania and another bronze at the 2012 Olympics in London.

Miracle in Milan

In the 2010-11 season, Blatt managed to take Maccabi to the Euroleague title game at the Final Four in Barcelona, but Panathinaikos Athens was the better team that evening. The next two seasons Maccabi fell in the playoffs, missing the final event of the season, but Blatt felt he was on the right path. During those four years, he built a solid team that reached the Final Four again in 2014 in Milan and did what nobody expected: became European champion.

Maccabi did the tough part in the semifinals. CSKA Moscow was leading by 55-40 in the second half and everything looked done, but Maccabi started to come back, little by little. With 20 seconds to go, CSKA was still leading by 4 points, 67-63. During the timeout, Blatt called for a hopeful play that put the ball in David Blu's hands for a three-pointer. It worked, and Maccabi was within 1 point now, 67-66. CSKA had the possession to win, but CSKA mishandled the ball, Blu came out of nowhere to pick it up and pass ahead to Tyrese Rice, who with 5.5 seconds to go scored a bucket that was worth a place in the championship game. In that final, Maccabi played a great game to defeat Real Madrid 98-86, but to do so needed a great overtime (25-13), the first one in a final since 1969, to win the title. Blatt confirmed, once more, that he was a master of dramatic situations. That same season, Blatt won the Aleksandar Gomelskiy Award for the best coach of the year in the Euroleague. During that four-year stint with Maccabi, Blatt won 255 games and lost 55. He was Coach of the Year in Israel four times (1996, 2002, 2011 and 2014) and once in Russia (2005).

http://www.euroleague.net/features/voices/2015-2016/vladimir-stankovic/i/6r8okpsqgipnbnsy/david-blatt-a-double-euro-champ-from-america

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4/23/2016  5:06 PM
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ESOMKnicks wrote:
He coached Russia to its first and only European championship title and its first and only Olympic medal (bronze).

Ok, and how does that make them a crap team?? How do you know they didn't retool that team in the off season and they were a good team??

I am talking about the national team, hard to retool when your nation is thin on talent (although naturalizing an American player John Holden helped). The only good thing about Russia all those years was Kirilenko. And Blatt.

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4/24/2016  8:44 AM
now theyre saying blatt was never on radar. just rambis
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4/24/2016  9:39 AM
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4/24/2016  9:51 AM
naturally we want that guys with better track records than Rambis. But Rambis might be the best candidate at the moment to run what the boss wants to do. If thats the criteria, so be it.

This is a league of results. The other guys have accomplished more as head coach's than Rambis so we want them. Fact is, the Triangle will run and Rambis is trusted by Phil.

Nobody has accomplished more than phil, so this would be my vote of faith on the system. So I am fine with Rambis. This is our culture and if we hire from within, thats how the great franchise sometimes work. Its not definitive, its just my opinion.

Knicks focus at coach is now Rambis.... and Blatt?

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