Cartman718 wrote:stop the presses 3.2apg in games that dont even matter? wow i am impressed!

A pg is not going to rack up assist in this system, especially if the goal is to have 5 guys touch the ball every time down court. We don't spread the floor much, we don't run fast breaks, and we hardly ever Do the PnR. Even if Grant (or any PG for the matter) penetrates, he has almost no lanes or angles to kick out because everyones all bunched up.

Notice the last 2 possessions of the raptors game, both times Grant penetrated and ended up trying to draw contact instead of dishing off

knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:stop the presses 3.2apg in games that dont even matter? wow i am impressed!

A pg is not going to rack up assist in this system, especially if the goal is to have 5 guys touch the ball every time down court. We don't spread the floor much, we don't run fast breaks, and we hardly ever Do the PnR. Even if Grant (or any PG for the matter) penetrates, he has almost no lanes or angles to kick out because everyones all bunched up.

Notice the last 2 possessions of the raptors game, both times Grant penetrated and ended up trying to draw contact instead of dishing off

to me its ridiculous to think that a PG won't rack up assists if he's a true PG...in ANY system.
kobe bryant had an average of 5.6 assists per game as late as last year...and under phil....? as high as 6.
its not the system...it's the player.

knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:stop the presses 3.2apg in games that dont even matter? wow i am impressed!

A pg is not going to rack up assist in this system, especially if the goal is to have 5 guys touch the ball every time down court. We don't spread the floor much, we don't run fast breaks, and we hardly ever Do the PnR. Even if Grant (or any PG for the matter) penetrates, he has almost no lanes or angles to kick out because everyones all bunched up.

Notice the last 2 possessions of the raptors game, both times Grant penetrated and ended up trying to draw contact instead of dishing off

Maybe he starts getting those calls at some point, too. Think of all the fouls a player like Harden would be getting in the same situations.

Refs have let Grant, and KP for that matter, take a lot of hits which should have been called this year.

nyknickzingis wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:grant has looked better but that is still in the awful zone. His decision making is weak at best. His footsteps are small and weird as if he is a slow center running down the court. He has to be one of the worst guards in the league when it comes to understanding how to use a pick. He misses it every time and has no idea how to lead his defender into it. He also starts his move before the picker gets set. He is still way too timid with his shot as if his confidence is shot.

His drives are nice but also out of control and injury prone, unless he can add a respectable shot to draw out the defense which will create more room for him in the lane.

Still see very little pure PG type passes from him.

are you watching the games Grant is actually playing in or just some footage of the bad highlights he had at the beginning half of season? Cause it seems like a lot of folks are seeing some obvious stuff you are missing.

For me, you just described Gallo when he has tried to play the point.

I watched the last couple of games. His drives to the basket are good as I stated though a bit scary. His use of picks is as bad as it gets. His passing and IQ seems under average for a top PG out of school especially one who can't shoot.

Definitely not a high IQ player. I agree. He does have great drives and can drive at will. I don't think anyone should hold Grant to a star point guard standards. We're talking a good role player who we'd want to defend and do a couple things on offense. If he can give us 10 points a night, 3 assists and some defense, it would really help. Not every pick you make can wind up like Porzingis. What I like about Grant is there's improvement in his shot. He works hard. He should in theory become a valuable defender if he learns the angles and defensive stance. He can play either 1 or 2 with his size. I think he's going to have Gallo's current spot in the rotation from this season (1st guard off the bench) next year.

I think he can be as good as lowery

knicks1248 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:grant has looked better but that is still in the awful zone. His decision making is weak at best. His footsteps are small and weird as if he is a slow center running down the court. He has to be one of the worst guards in the league when it comes to understanding how to use a pick. He misses it every time and has no idea how to lead his defender into it. He also starts his move before the picker gets set. He is still way too timid with his shot as if his confidence is shot.

His drives are nice but also out of control and injury prone, unless he can add a respectable shot to draw out the defense which will create more room for him in the lane.

Still see very little pure PG type passes from him.

are you watching the games Grant is actually playing in or just some footage of the bad highlights he had at the beginning half of season? Cause it seems like a lot of folks are seeing some obvious stuff you are missing.

For me, you just described Gallo when he has tried to play the point.

I watched the last couple of games. His drives to the basket are good as I stated though a bit scary. His use of picks is as bad as it gets. His passing and IQ seems under average for a top PG out of school especially one who can't shoot.

Definitely not a high IQ player. I agree. He does have great drives and can drive at will. I don't think anyone should hold Grant to a star point guard standards. We're talking a good role player who we'd want to defend and do a couple things on offense. If he can give us 10 points a night, 3 assists and some defense, it would really help. Not every pick you make can wind up like Porzingis. What I like about Grant is there's improvement in his shot. He works hard. He should in theory become a valuable defender if he learns the angles and defensive stance. He can play either 1 or 2 with his size. I think he's going to have Gallo's current spot in the rotation from this season (1st guard off the bench) next year.

I think he can be as good as lowery

wtf?

I think we would have had a much better team had Rambis just let the guys play (and I mean within the triangle). He just seemed to play the vets too much, as if we were playing for something.

CrushAlot wrote:Clyde just said he thinks Grant has figured things out and will be able to help the Knicks at the point next year.

I think I agree with this. His big issue earlier in the season was total lack of confidence. He has that back. He can work on his shot and some other stuff over the summer - maybe an in-between shot, a runner, a floater, something like that.

I have high hopes for him next season. I think he's a smart player.