fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

arkrud wrote:Knicks cannot trade Melo.
Melo can trade himself or stay in NY.
He is the master of his own destiny.
The main good thing from him leaving is liberation from false perception that this team is some player or coach away from the showtime.
It is light years away as you rightly mentioned.
It takes time to build around stars and team should start to build when their star is entering his prime not exiting it.
There is nothing wrong with Melo but it is everything wrong with timing between him and state of the Knicks.

The perception is the propaganda. The reality is a future that we can't see, thus we are mad.
Melo is here to sell tickets cuz NBA is an entertainment company. Winning nice, but selling tix is the game.

Only one team of 30 wins. This is gonna take a few years. Then why keep melo? "thats entertainment!!!"

Why is melo a star attraction , why does he sell tickets, is it because he's really good, or 98% of the basketball world doesn't see what a handful of knick fans see like chuckbuck and DK.

The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5 yrs.

Any GM trades a confirm good play for a player that they pray and hope "HE may be good", should be fired,

OUR concerns should always be towards management for the most part, they put this sht toghether..One good move 2 bad moves, thats the pattern of every GM we get.

I'll be very honest, I hated melo's game and personality before he got here, was totally against the trade. But when he became a FA, the thought of having to deal with another 10 yrs looking for a star player, or leader was very scary.

All those yrs with draft picks like frank williams, sweetney, frye, toney douglas, boneheaded trades like KVH for Tim thomas, or Francis for Ariza, or watching no big name FA even giving us a second thought.

Kp is good, but we haven't had one single draft pick in 15 yrs, that has came back better(except Lee & Nate) in his 2nd season ready to take over. He hasN'T been able to do nothing when melo's out, and if he himself gets hurt, who will we rely on if melo's not here, A BUNCH OF LOW DRAFT PICKS, AND MORE AFFALO TYPE PLAYERS, avg 82 ppg as a team

Like you folks seen this horror movie before, why would want to go the same rout..like wtf maaan

------->The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5

In the last 3 years we are
37-45
17-65
28-43

We sck--the personal agenda is to NOT sck. We need to use Melo to get younger--to build out and raise the talent level of the guard positions.

and that win total is because of Melo? If you goal is not suck you keep Melo and upgrade the roster. Unless you don't think Melo is a good BB player. Maybe start a new thread?

You trade Melo because with him and some potential upgrades this off season, we'll be just good enough to avoid sucking, and you're probably looking at another team with 35 wins, give or take.

Which eats up another year of Melo's playing career and gets us a late lottery pick.

And that positions us to be what, just marginally better- perhaps we leap to 41 wins, get the last slot for the playoffs, are swept.

Great, now Melo is another year older, and we have a mid round draft pick.

We need a massive infusion of Youth & Talent. KP is great, but he aint getting it done without help. And Melo alone isn't enough help.

If we manage against odds to add 2 young, impact guards this off season, maybe we over achieve next year. But even if we're planning on Russel Westbrook to be our savior, I think that is the same flawed thinking that got us Lebron.

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

arkrud wrote:Knicks cannot trade Melo.
Melo can trade himself or stay in NY.
He is the master of his own destiny.
The main good thing from him leaving is liberation from false perception that this team is some player or coach away from the showtime.
It is light years away as you rightly mentioned.
It takes time to build around stars and team should start to build when their star is entering his prime not exiting it.
There is nothing wrong with Melo but it is everything wrong with timing between him and state of the Knicks.

The perception is the propaganda. The reality is a future that we can't see, thus we are mad.
Melo is here to sell tickets cuz NBA is an entertainment company. Winning nice, but selling tix is the game.

Only one team of 30 wins. This is gonna take a few years. Then why keep melo? "thats entertainment!!!"

Why is melo a star attraction , why does he sell tickets, is it because he's really good, or 98% of the basketball world doesn't see what a handful of knick fans see like chuckbuck and DK.

The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5 yrs.

Any GM trades a confirm good play for a player that they pray and hope "HE may be good", should be fired,

OUR concerns should always be towards management for the most part, they put this sht toghether..One good move 2 bad moves, thats the pattern of every GM we get.

I'll be very honest, I hated melo's game and personality before he got here, was totally against the trade. But when he became a FA, the thought of having to deal with another 10 yrs looking for a star player, or leader was very scary.

All those yrs with draft picks like frank williams, sweetney, frye, toney douglas, boneheaded trades like KVH for Tim thomas, or Francis for Ariza, or watching no big name FA even giving us a second thought.

Kp is good, but we haven't had one single draft pick in 15 yrs, that has came back better(except Lee & Nate) in his 2nd season ready to take over. He hasN'T been able to do nothing when melo's out, and if he himself gets hurt, who will we rely on if melo's not here, A BUNCH OF LOW DRAFT PICKS, AND MORE AFFALO TYPE PLAYERS, avg 82 ppg as a team

Like you folks seen this horror movie before, why would want to go the same rout..like wtf maaan

------->The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5

In the last 3 years we are
37-45
17-65
28-43

We sck--the personal agenda is to NOT sck. We need to use Melo to get younger--to build out and raise the talent level of the guard positions.

and that win total is because of Melo? If you goal is not suck you keep Melo and upgrade the roster. Unless you don't think Melo is a good BB player. Maybe start a new thread?

You trade Melo because with him and some potential upgrades this off season, we'll be just good enough to avoid sucking, and you're probably looking at another team with 35 wins, give or take.

Which eats up another year of Melo's playing career and gets us a late lottery pick.

And that positions us to be what, just marginally better- perhaps we leap to 41 wins, get the last slot for the playoffs, are swept.

Great, now Melo is another year older, and we have a mid round draft pick.

We need a massive infusion of Youth & Talent. KP is great, but he aint getting it done without help. And Melo alone isn't enough help.

If we manage against odds to add 2 young, impact guards this off season, maybe we over achieve next year. But even if we're planning on Russel Westbrook to be our savior, I think that is the same flawed thinking that got us Lebron.

This. Can't afford to pair to KP with mid to late lotto pick in the upcoming 2017 draft, absolutely has to be a blue chip top 5 pick at least. We talk about wasting Melo's prime, that time has looooooooong gone. We have to do our best to look forward and complement KP the best way possible. Get him a running mate that coincides with their primes being in sync. Having Melo on the roster for 2016-2017 guarantees a shytty draft pick. Add young cheap free agents that could possibly pan out. Need to go full youth movement and build from there, no over 30s.

Once you established a base, you can add something significant in 2018 or beyond:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2018/

Focus needs to be on being a sound organization. Odds of our draft picks being as good or better then Melo (22-8-4 with solid D this season) even at his age isn't high. So if we can't build a winning team with a guy like Melo odds are we aren't going to build a winning team with most players. We would strictly have to have the best players in the NBA then.

newyorknewyork wrote:Hornets needed 12 lotto picks to be a 1st-2nd rd team.
GSW needed 3 lotto picks and 1 2nd round pick to be arguably the best team in the NBA or history depending on who you ask.
Spurs needed 1 lotto pick, 1 late first, 1 2nd round pick
Dallas needed 1 lotto pick, multiple smart trades, cap flexibility to be in the hunt year after year.

Focus needs to be on being a sound organization. Odds of our draft picks being as good or better then Melo (22-8-4 with solid D this season) even at his age isn't high. So if we can't build a winning team with a guy like Melo odds are we aren't going to build a winning team with most players. We would strictly have to have the best players in the NBA then.

You left out the trades for Bogut and the trade for finals MVP, Iggy.

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

arkrud wrote:Knicks cannot trade Melo.
Melo can trade himself or stay in NY.
He is the master of his own destiny.
The main good thing from him leaving is liberation from false perception that this team is some player or coach away from the showtime.
It is light years away as you rightly mentioned.
It takes time to build around stars and team should start to build when their star is entering his prime not exiting it.
There is nothing wrong with Melo but it is everything wrong with timing between him and state of the Knicks.

The perception is the propaganda. The reality is a future that we can't see, thus we are mad.
Melo is here to sell tickets cuz NBA is an entertainment company. Winning nice, but selling tix is the game.

Only one team of 30 wins. This is gonna take a few years. Then why keep melo? "thats entertainment!!!"

Why is melo a star attraction , why does he sell tickets, is it because he's really good, or 98% of the basketball world doesn't see what a handful of knick fans see like chuckbuck and DK.

The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5 yrs.

Any GM trades a confirm good play for a player that they pray and hope "HE may be good", should be fired,

OUR concerns should always be towards management for the most part, they put this sht toghether..One good move 2 bad moves, thats the pattern of every GM we get.

I'll be very honest, I hated melo's game and personality before he got here, was totally against the trade. But when he became a FA, the thought of having to deal with another 10 yrs looking for a star player, or leader was very scary.

All those yrs with draft picks like frank williams, sweetney, frye, toney douglas, boneheaded trades like KVH for Tim thomas, or Francis for Ariza, or watching no big name FA even giving us a second thought.

Kp is good, but we haven't had one single draft pick in 15 yrs, that has came back better(except Lee & Nate) in his 2nd season ready to take over. He hasN'T been able to do nothing when melo's out, and if he himself gets hurt, who will we rely on if melo's not here, A BUNCH OF LOW DRAFT PICKS, AND MORE AFFALO TYPE PLAYERS, avg 82 ppg as a team

Like you folks seen this horror movie before, why would want to go the same rout..like wtf maaan

------->The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5

In the last 3 years we are
37-45
17-65
28-43

We sck--the personal agenda is to NOT sck. We need to use Melo to get younger--to build out and raise the talent level of the guard positions.

and that win total is because of Melo? If you goal is not suck you keep Melo and upgrade the roster. Unless you don't think Melo is a good BB player. Maybe start a new thread?

This is correct, if you trade Melo you will get worst for a few years as least. But people around here would rather get worse as long as we are rebuilding than get better if Melo is on the roster. Only hope for getting better is if you trade him for Love or Griffin and do well in free agency too.

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

arkrud wrote:Knicks cannot trade Melo.
Melo can trade himself or stay in NY.
He is the master of his own destiny.
The main good thing from him leaving is liberation from false perception that this team is some player or coach away from the showtime.
It is light years away as you rightly mentioned.
It takes time to build around stars and team should start to build when their star is entering his prime not exiting it.
There is nothing wrong with Melo but it is everything wrong with timing between him and state of the Knicks.

The perception is the propaganda. The reality is a future that we can't see, thus we are mad.
Melo is here to sell tickets cuz NBA is an entertainment company. Winning nice, but selling tix is the game.

Only one team of 30 wins. This is gonna take a few years. Then why keep melo? "thats entertainment!!!"

Why is melo a star attraction , why does he sell tickets, is it because he's really good, or 98% of the basketball world doesn't see what a handful of knick fans see like chuckbuck and DK.

The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5 yrs.

Any GM trades a confirm good play for a player that they pray and hope "HE may be good", should be fired,

OUR concerns should always be towards management for the most part, they put this sht toghether..One good move 2 bad moves, thats the pattern of every GM we get.

I'll be very honest, I hated melo's game and personality before he got here, was totally against the trade. But when he became a FA, the thought of having to deal with another 10 yrs looking for a star player, or leader was very scary.

All those yrs with draft picks like frank williams, sweetney, frye, toney douglas, boneheaded trades like KVH for Tim thomas, or Francis for Ariza, or watching no big name FA even giving us a second thought.

Kp is good, but we haven't had one single draft pick in 15 yrs, that has came back better(except Lee & Nate) in his 2nd season ready to take over. He hasN'T been able to do nothing when melo's out, and if he himself gets hurt, who will we rely on if melo's not here, A BUNCH OF LOW DRAFT PICKS, AND MORE AFFALO TYPE PLAYERS, avg 82 ppg as a team

Like you folks seen this horror movie before, why would want to go the same rout..like wtf maaan

------->The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5

In the last 3 years we are
37-45
17-65
28-43

We sck--the personal agenda is to NOT sck. We need to use Melo to get younger--to build out and raise the talent level of the guard positions.

and that win total is because of Melo? If you goal is not suck you keep Melo and upgrade the roster. Unless you don't think Melo is a good BB player. Maybe start a new thread?

Hes the main guy and this is our record. You are what you are--we sck with melo.

and we're worse with him

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

arkrud wrote:Knicks cannot trade Melo.
Melo can trade himself or stay in NY.
He is the master of his own destiny.
The main good thing from him leaving is liberation from false perception that this team is some player or coach away from the showtime.
It is light years away as you rightly mentioned.
It takes time to build around stars and team should start to build when their star is entering his prime not exiting it.
There is nothing wrong with Melo but it is everything wrong with timing between him and state of the Knicks.

The perception is the propaganda. The reality is a future that we can't see, thus we are mad.
Melo is here to sell tickets cuz NBA is an entertainment company. Winning nice, but selling tix is the game.

Only one team of 30 wins. This is gonna take a few years. Then why keep melo? "thats entertainment!!!"

Why is melo a star attraction , why does he sell tickets, is it because he's really good, or 98% of the basketball world doesn't see what a handful of knick fans see like chuckbuck and DK.

The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5 yrs.

Any GM trades a confirm good play for a player that they pray and hope "HE may be good", should be fired,

OUR concerns should always be towards management for the most part, they put this sht toghether..One good move 2 bad moves, thats the pattern of every GM we get.

I'll be very honest, I hated melo's game and personality before he got here, was totally against the trade. But when he became a FA, the thought of having to deal with another 10 yrs looking for a star player, or leader was very scary.

All those yrs with draft picks like frank williams, sweetney, frye, toney douglas, boneheaded trades like KVH for Tim thomas, or Francis for Ariza, or watching no big name FA even giving us a second thought.

Kp is good, but we haven't had one single draft pick in 15 yrs, that has came back better(except Lee & Nate) in his 2nd season ready to take over. He hasN'T been able to do nothing when melo's out, and if he himself gets hurt, who will we rely on if melo's not here, A BUNCH OF LOW DRAFT PICKS, AND MORE AFFALO TYPE PLAYERS, avg 82 ppg as a team

Like you folks seen this horror movie before, why would want to go the same rout..like wtf maaan

------->The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5

In the last 3 years we are
37-45
17-65
28-43

We sck--the personal agenda is to NOT sck. We need to use Melo to get younger--to build out and raise the talent level of the guard positions.

and that win total is because of Melo? If you goal is not suck you keep Melo and upgrade the roster. Unless you don't think Melo is a good BB player. Maybe start a new thread?

You trade Melo because with him and some potential upgrades this off season, we'll be just good enough to avoid sucking, and you're probably looking at another team with 35 wins, give or take.

Which eats up another year of Melo's playing career and gets us a late lottery pick.

And that positions us to be what, just marginally better- perhaps we leap to 41 wins, get the last slot for the playoffs, are swept.

Great, now Melo is another year older, and we have a mid round draft pick.

We need a massive infusion of Youth & Talent. KP is great, but he aint getting it done without help. And Melo alone isn't enough help.

If we manage against odds to add 2 young, impact guards this off season, maybe we over achieve next year. But even if we're planning on Russel Westbrook to be our savior, I think that is the same flawed thinking that got us Lebron.

This. Can't afford to pair to KP with mid to late lotto pick in the upcoming 2017 draft, absolutely has to be a blue chip top 5 pick at least. We talk about wasting Melo's prime, that time has looooooooong gone. We have to do our best to look forward and complement KP the best way possible. Get him a running mate that coincides with their primes being in sync. Having Melo on the roster for 2016-2017 guarantees a shytty draft pick. Add young cheap free agents that could possibly pan out. Need to go full youth movement and build from there, no over 30s.

Once you established a base, you can add something significant in 2018 or beyond:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2018/

why don't you become a 76rs fan since your so in love with what their doing.. build through the draft...smdh

As opposed to adding 2nd tier and 3rd tier shyt to a 31 about to be 32 year old turd like what we're about to do?

Where's the ceiling there? 1st round exit?

Bonn1997 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

arkrud wrote:Knicks cannot trade Melo.
Melo can trade himself or stay in NY.
He is the master of his own destiny.
The main good thing from him leaving is liberation from false perception that this team is some player or coach away from the showtime.
It is light years away as you rightly mentioned.
It takes time to build around stars and team should start to build when their star is entering his prime not exiting it.
There is nothing wrong with Melo but it is everything wrong with timing between him and state of the Knicks.

The perception is the propaganda. The reality is a future that we can't see, thus we are mad.
Melo is here to sell tickets cuz NBA is an entertainment company. Winning nice, but selling tix is the game.

Only one team of 30 wins. This is gonna take a few years. Then why keep melo? "thats entertainment!!!"

Why is melo a star attraction , why does he sell tickets, is it because he's really good, or 98% of the basketball world doesn't see what a handful of knick fans see like chuckbuck and DK.

The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5 yrs.

Any GM trades a confirm good play for a player that they pray and hope "HE may be good", should be fired,

OUR concerns should always be towards management for the most part, they put this sht toghether..One good move 2 bad moves, thats the pattern of every GM we get.

I'll be very honest, I hated melo's game and personality before he got here, was totally against the trade. But when he became a FA, the thought of having to deal with another 10 yrs looking for a star player, or leader was very scary.

All those yrs with draft picks like frank williams, sweetney, frye, toney douglas, boneheaded trades like KVH for Tim thomas, or Francis for Ariza, or watching no big name FA even giving us a second thought.

Kp is good, but we haven't had one single draft pick in 15 yrs, that has came back better(except Lee & Nate) in his 2nd season ready to take over. He hasN'T been able to do nothing when melo's out, and if he himself gets hurt, who will we rely on if melo's not here, A BUNCH OF LOW DRAFT PICKS, AND MORE AFFALO TYPE PLAYERS, avg 82 ppg as a team

Like you folks seen this horror movie before, why would want to go the same rout..like wtf maaan

------->The people that want him traded have a personal agenda. I know this because they know that the propose trades won't make us better and sets us back 5

In the last 3 years we are
37-45
17-65
28-43

We sck--the personal agenda is to NOT sck. We need to use Melo to get younger--to build out and raise the talent level of the guard positions.

and that win total is because of Melo? If you goal is not suck you keep Melo and upgrade the roster. Unless you don't think Melo is a good BB player. Maybe start a new thread?

Hes the main guy and this is our record. You are what you are--we sck with melo.

This is BULL ISH!!! The problem is the guard spots and not Melo himself. For me there is no real correlation between the losing and Melo himself. The REST of the roster has to be up to par in order to win. The team is 0-8 without him. When his teammates were playing well this team was actually looking like it would get over .500. With quality guard play this team should be able to win just like any other team and it has nothing to do with Melo being somehow responsible for the team not playing well.

This is BS? Weve lost 153 games and counting the last 3 years. It counts if a guy cant play either--if a guy cant play a number of games--its just as detrimental. Also it speaks to where we are as a team. There is no quick fix here--so the smart move is to cash in on Melo for younger assets to go along with KP.

Despite the disappointing season, the future is still BRIGHT!!! Don't let this current W/L record blind you from the progress and possibilities for even more progress. We've got some young talent in development. We have a core of solid NBA bigs and now just need to upgrade the guards and wings.

RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
31	DeAndre Jordan, LAC	67	34.2	.635	9.0	10.7	13.7	11.3	33.0	22.2	20.61	342.1	11.4
32	Paul George, IND	70	35.5	.552	14.5	11.7	29.1	3.0	18.5	10.8	20.59	374.2	12.5
33	John Wall, WSH	        70	36.0	.515	29.8	12.0	29.4	1.7	14.0	7.7	20.55	359.0	12.0
34	Carmelo Anthony, NY	63	35.4	.529	15.5	9.0	28.3	4.4	20.1	12.3	20.45	331.8	11.1
35	Nikola Vucevic, ORL	58	31.8	.520	13.0	8.9	25.2	9.5	21.9	15.6	20.36	268.8	9.0
36	Eric Bledsoe, PHX	31	34.2	.557	21.9	12.7	27.4	1.8	11.3	6.4	20.34	147.6	4.9
37	Chris Bosh, MIA	        53	33.5	.571	11.7	7.2	23.2	3.2	21.1	12.4	20.33	234.4	7.8
38	Dirk Nowitzki, DAL	64	31.3	.570	9.2	5.8	23.5	2.4	20.7	11.6	20.26	262.1	8.7
39	Reggie Jackson, DET	70	30.6	.539	23.6	10.2	29.2	2.4	9.3	5.7	20.19	293.9	9.8
40	Dwyane Wade, MIA	63	30.6	.511	18.1	10.7	30.8	4.5	10.5	7.6	20.13	277.3	9.2
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
61	Thaddeus Young, BKN	68	33.1	.532	10.4	10.0	20.5	8.2	23.2	15.7	18.04	219.7	7.3
62	Robin Lopez, NY	        71	26.6	.586	11.2	13.7	16.6	13.2	16.4	14.8	17.89	205.2	6.8
63	J.J. Redick, LAC	65	28.6	.638	9.4	6.9	20.7	0.5	6.1	3.3	17.86	203.9	6.8
64	Rudy Gobert, UTAH	50	32.6	.591	13.5	16.5	13.5	12.3	27.3	19.8	17.78	174.4	5.8
65	Louis Williams, LAL	61	29.1	.582	14.6	9.1	21.8	1.6	8.4	4.9	17.76	192.5	6.4
66	Marc Gasol, MEM	        52	34.4	.528	17.4	10.5	22.8	3.6	20.0	11.5	17.75	191.2	6.4
67	C.J. McCollum, POR	69	34.9	.540	16.1	9.3	26.6	1.9	8.7	5.3	17.67	257.7	8.6
68	Jeff Withey, UTAH	44	13.3	.573	8.9	12.7	14.4	9.8	20.6	15.2	17.60	61.0	2.0
69	Jeff Teague, ATL	68	28.3	.545	26.2	12.2	25.9	1.7	8.5	5.2	17.56	188.6	6.3
70	Kristaps Porzingis, NY	68	28.0	.511	7.8	10.1	22.9	7.2	20.8	14.1	17.54	171.8	5.7
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
        Manu Ginobili, SA	51	19.5	.563	22.8	13.1	23.5	2.9	12.5	7.9	17.54	104.2	3.5
72	Brandon Bass, LAL	60	20.1	.615	14.7	8.0	13.4	8.0	15.4	11.6	17.50	108.1	3.6
73	Kyle O'Quinn, NY	57	11.3	.527	17.2	15.0	20.7	10.5	23.9	17.3	17.45	57.1	1.9
74	Derrick Williams, NY	69	16.9	.536	9.4	6.5	22.2	3.6	19.1	11.4	17.44	103.2	3.4

So Melo's has the 2nd biggest contract in the league and ranks 34th on your list? What a great deal.

2015 Cap Hit Rankings    
PLAYER	                                2015 CAP-HIT
1  Kobe Bryant	     SMALL FORWARD	$25,000,000
2  LeBron James	     SMALL FORWARD	$22,970,500
3  Carmelo Anthony   SMALL FORWARD	$22,875,000
4  Dwight Howard     CENTER	        $22,359,364
5  Chris Bosh	     POWER FORWARD	$22,192,730
6  Chris Paul	     POINT GUARD	$21,468,696
7  Kevin Durant	     SMALL FORWARD	$20,158,622
8  Derrick Rose	     POINT GUARD	$20,093,064
9  Dwyane Wade	     SHOOTING GUARD	$20,000,000
10 LaMarcus Aldridge POWER FORWARD	$19,689,000

Melo will be eclipsed by guys signing new contracts. It's really IMO a very petty issue to bring up in reference to the overall point, which is that we have some solid Bigs on the team. That is progress since LAST YEAR we did not have this quality of bigs as we do now and they are going to get better as KP and others continue to develop. Now we have fewer holes in the roster to fill but we have the means to fill those holes with better players. That's the overarching point I was making.

knicks1248 wrote:They are always talking about his salary, but when we had cap space and no melo,not one premier player came running.

They want melo to force another trade to his team of choice, why isn't nobody in the NBA forcing a trade to ny to play with melo, like any of his buddies.

Yeah melo come play here with us, but we will never come to NYC and play with you..FCK that, if Durant, labron, Westbrook, want to win, come to ny, other than that, kick rocks.

We have a young star we have melo, we have Lopez, we have grant, we have solid role players. We just have a ass backwards coach, and slow as system that requires a bonafide scorer that can create his own shot 90% of the time, because the offensive becomes so predicable.

Phil knows this, that why he was hell bent on signing melo, That system will never ever work without a 30 point scorer

And Phil said so himself

Your assessment of the system is flawed because it's based on our current team lacking creative scorer/passers at the guard and wing spots, but that will most likely change this summer. You may not need a pure PG in this system but you still need players that can drive to the hoop and create off the dribble in the flow of the offense as Shved was doing. That is the missing ingredient for this team. More players like that. You can trust that Phil not only knows this but is actively trying to add those players. That's why he drafted Jerian and signed DWIll and now Wroten! He wasn't able to solve all our needs last summer but the process is ongoing. We have the cap space to find what the team lacks.

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:They are always talking about his salary, but when we had cap space and no melo,not one premier player came running.

They want melo to force another trade to his team of choice, why isn't nobody in the NBA forcing a trade to ny to play with melo, like any of his buddies.

Yeah melo come play here with us, but we will never come to NYC and play with you..FCK that, if Durant, labron, Westbrook, want to win, come to ny, other than that, kick rocks.

We have a young star we have melo, we have Lopez, we have grant, we have solid role players. We just have a ass backwards coach, and slow as system that requires a bonafide scorer that can create his own shot 90% of the time, because the offensive becomes so predicable.

Phil knows this, that why he was hell bent on signing melo, That system will never ever work without a 30 point scorer

And Phil said so himself

IT'S NOT ABOUT HAVING A 30PT SCORER!!! The Bulls had a very good season the year after Jordan left the 1st time. They didn't have Jordan's scoring genius but still had a very good season. The Spurs don't have a 30pt scorer and are using TONS of Triangle, but most people don't recognize it because they have very good players so it isn't stagnant like in NY. The Bulls were running a lot of Triangle under Thibs but it also wasn't stagnant because of the players running the plays. It wasn't stagnant last year when we had Shved and he's not a 30pt scorer!!!

Your assessment of the system is flawed because it's based on our current team lacking creative scorer/passers at the guard and wing spots, but that will most likely change this summer. You may not need a pure PG in this system but you still need players that can drive to the hoop and create off the dribble in the flow of the offense as Shved was doing. That is the missing ingredient for this team. More players like that. You can trust that Phil not only knows this but is actively trying to add those players. That's why he drafted Jerian and signed DWIll and now Wroten! He wasn't able to solve all our needs last summer but the process is ongoing. We have the cap space to find what the team lacks.

you know what NIX, I actually agree with you here to a certain degree, in our case it's not the players it's 85% coach..

We never ever ever ever ever ever ever run the fast break, even if we steal the ball at half court, we wait, only fast breaks come when either grant, Galloway, or d will goes coast to coast. That's a mind set rather then a players lack of attributes

how many times have you heard opposing player after opposing player state "WE KNEW EVERYTHING THEY WERE RUNNING" THATS NOT A TALENT PROBLEM, THATS A SYSTEM PROBLEM.

YOU PLAY THE WAY YOU PRACTICE, you don't spend 2 hrs in practice running fast break, and come out and shoot mid range shots all game long, and play half court.

MDA didn't run 7 seconds in practice everyday and watch his team come out and play half court for 47 minutes

VCoug wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Hornets needed 12 lotto picks to be a 1st-2nd rd team.
GSW needed 3 lotto picks and 1 2nd round pick to be arguably the best team in the NBA or history depending on who you ask.
Spurs needed 1 lotto pick, 1 late first, 1 2nd round pick
Dallas needed 1 lotto pick, multiple smart trades, cap flexibility to be in the hunt year after year.

Focus needs to be on being a sound organization. Odds of our draft picks being as good or better then Melo (22-8-4 with solid D this season) even at his age isn't high. So if we can't build a winning team with a guy like Melo odds are we aren't going to build a winning team with most players. We would strictly have to have the best players in the NBA then.

It isn't about this season! It's about next season, and the seasons 5 and 10 years from now. We're not going to be competing next year or the year after unless we get stupidly, ridiculously lucky. And if we're trying to compete the next 2-3 years and fail like we're probably going to, we're going to **** up Porzingis' prime when he hits 25/26 by not having other good to great players around the same age. We'll waste his prime the same way Cleveland did Lebron, New Orleans did Chris Pual and is doing to Anthony Davis.

you surround young players with other young players, who are they learning from...you send your kids to school to be taught by other kids his age..cmon dude lets get real..

Duncan had a full veteran squad around him for his first 3 seasons

when shaq was with Orlando with a young penny and nick Anderson and D scott, they got swept in the finals, and the ship was sinking there after, that's why he jumped ship.

labron could have stayed in Cleveland and added talent, but the idea of playing in Miami with his closes friends, who happen to be just as good, was more enticing.

Curry and klay were just going through it, until they added some very good vets..

Melo miss 8 games this season, and never took a SO CALLED REST DAY off, and changed his game for the better..smh

now lets get rid of him..so dumb