fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's too bad so many fans hate him - we have an all-star here committed to bringing in more talent and winning here.

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Also, as Howard Beck tweeted earlier today - Magic traded Dwight Howard four years ago. They're still rebuilding - still hoping to lure a max guy this summer in Orlando.

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Sometimes it's hard to get back once you blow it up. Takes luck in FA and luck in the draft. We got some luck in the draft this year for the first time in years. Maybe we get some real luck in FA this off-season? Maybe Wroten pans out?

Who knows.

We have heard this before let Phil do his job. Melo need not recruit because players really don't want to play with him.

Rebuilding is hard but the Knicks never have been really back so drop off will be status quo. Melo is not a superstar he is a good player. People need to stop throwing superstar around on good players. Another factor what player would want to play with a player that can't make it through 82 games. Hasn't anyone noticed that the Knicks have been down hill after Melo sat out that game after stepping on the ref. He was good enough to sit on the bench and bark at his teammates and give his advice. He should have been out there and playing showing his teammates how badly he wants to win a Willis Reed moment that he passed on.

The Knicks need Melo to waive his NTC not recruit.

Can you base the bold on anything tangible, logical or that can be quantified???

When was the last time the Knicks signed FAs as good as Tyson, Lopez or Afflalo?

That is Phil doing his job not Melo recruiting. So far Melo has a nothing to show. When do players come here saying they came because of Melo.

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's too bad so many fans hate him - we have an all-star here committed to bringing in more talent and winning here.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/706958173769306112

Also, as Howard Beck tweeted earlier today - Magic traded Dwight Howard four years ago. They're still rebuilding - still hoping to lure a max guy this summer in Orlando.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/706858342988292100

Sometimes it's hard to get back once you blow it up. Takes luck in FA and luck in the draft. We got some luck in the draft this year for the first time in years. Maybe we get some real luck in FA this off-season? Maybe Wroten pans out?

Who knows.

We have heard this before let Phil do his job. Melo need not recruit because players really don't want to play with him.

Rebuilding is hard but the Knicks never have been really back so drop off will be status quo. Melo is not a superstar he is a good player. People need to stop throwing superstar around on good players. Another factor what player would want to play with a player that can't make it through 82 games. Hasn't anyone noticed that the Knicks have been down hill after Melo sat out that game after stepping on the ref. He was good enough to sit on the bench and bark at his teammates and give his advice. He should have been out there and playing showing his teammates how badly he wants to win a Willis Reed moment that he passed on.

The Knicks need Melo to waive his NTC not recruit.

Can you base the bold on anything tangible, logical or that can be quantified???

When was the last time the Knicks signed FAs as good as Tyson, Lopez or Afflalo?

That is Phil doing his job not Melo recruiting. So far Melo has a nothing to show. When do players come here saying they came because of Melo.

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I was dying for this team to sign Rondo last summer and people told me I was crazy. Sigh. I don't think we have a chance at him now. We could've had him last summer when his value was low.

well there is your handle...

That value wasnt low.. it was toxic. I hear you but hard to justify adding him last year with what was going on

Yeah, but the difference is last summer we had a chance and now we don't. We're a team that needs to buy low.

Lance Stephenson is another I hoped we'd try to acquire - he's playing great in Memphis now and we can't get him.

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I was dying for this team to sign Rondo last summer and people told me I was crazy. Sigh. I don't think we have a chance at him now. We could've had him last summer when his value was low.

pass on hack-a-rondo. He ain't nearly as good as you think and he certainly ain't triangle worthy. Dude gets a pick set on the ball for him on almost every play in his career.

I would love to have rondo here next year just for the theatrics when he blows up goes ape**** about the silly triangle.

How do you know how good I think he is?

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I was dying for this team to sign Rondo last summer and people told me I was crazy. Sigh. I don't think we have a chance at him now. We could've had him last summer when his value was low.

well there is your handle...

That value wasnt low.. it was toxic. I hear you but hard to justify adding him last year with what was going on

Yeah, but the difference is last summer we had a chance and now we don't. We're a team that needs to buy low.

Lance Stephenson is another I hoped we'd try to acquire - he's playing great in Memphis now and we can't get him.

yea.. fair, but those guys can totally blow up a team as well. Looks great when it works, if it blows up youre an idiot for ruining your team with a player everyone knew was a headcase.

I cant fault management for not diving into that talent pool, especially with NYC. Much different environment here than Sac.

Then again.. Sprewell man could we use a guy like that

It's a risk, for sure. But if those players weren't risks they wouldn't be available.

Larry Bird is a guy who continually takes calculated risks with talent acquisition. Sometimes it works really well - sometimes it doesn't. He just signed Ty Lawson. They took a risk on Ron Artest back in the day. They also traded the pick that became Kawhi Leonard for George Hill. I feel like there are other examples of Bird taking a risk on a potential headcase... oh, well, he drafted Lance Stephenson, too. Worked well for a little bit... then blew up after a loss to the Cavs in the playoffs. You win some, you lose some.

I'm a fan of taking a calculated risk to get premiere talent - so long as you have a strong infastructure in place that will give the talent a definable role.

Knicks are in a weird situation - oddly I feel like they have a strong infrastructure in place with Rambis and Phil and the Triangle... even though I don't like how Rambis coaches on the floor or the Triangle plays out on the floor. I do like the infrastructure... I just think we need someone to help Phil tweak and modernize the Triangle.

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's too bad so many fans hate him - we have an all-star here committed to bringing in more talent and winning here.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/706958173769306112

Also, as Howard Beck tweeted earlier today - Magic traded Dwight Howard four years ago. They're still rebuilding - still hoping to lure a max guy this summer in Orlando.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/706858342988292100

Sometimes it's hard to get back once you blow it up. Takes luck in FA and luck in the draft. We got some luck in the draft this year for the first time in years. Maybe we get some real luck in FA this off-season? Maybe Wroten pans out?

Who knows.

We have heard this before let Phil do his job. Melo need not recruit because players really don't want to play with him.

Rebuilding is hard but the Knicks never have been really back so drop off will be status quo. Melo is not a superstar he is a good player. People need to stop throwing superstar around on good players. Another factor what player would want to play with a player that can't make it through 82 games. Hasn't anyone noticed that the Knicks have been down hill after Melo sat out that game after stepping on the ref. He was good enough to sit on the bench and bark at his teammates and give his advice. He should have been out there and playing showing his teammates how badly he wants to win a Willis Reed moment that he passed on.

The Knicks need Melo to waive his NTC not recruit.

Can you base the bold on anything tangible, logical or that can be quantified???

When was the last time the Knicks signed FAs as good as Tyson, Lopez or Afflalo?

That is Phil doing his job not Melo recruiting. So far Melo has a nothing to show. When do players come here saying they came because of Melo.

So Chandler and Lopez dont count because they didnt say "I signed because of Melo" ????? Seriously man. So when nobody signs its Melo's fault and when someone does sign its the GM doing their job. Do I have it right?

You got it right Fish. It's Melo's fault he wants to be alpha dog he isn't ready to relinquish that so what does he try and bring not Durant but Rajon F'ing Rando.

Maybe Melo knows there's no chance in hell Durant would come here.

Where the heck on the floor would Durant fit here?

His coming here would cause so many more problems than it solved. Also, it wouldn't get Durant anywhere near a championship.

So you're mad at Melo for being realistic? I apologize if your post was meant to be sarcastic! Because then it was pretty funny!

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's too bad so many fans hate him - we have an all-star here committed to bringing in more talent and winning here.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/706958173769306112

Also, as Howard Beck tweeted earlier today - Magic traded Dwight Howard four years ago. They're still rebuilding - still hoping to lure a max guy this summer in Orlando.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/706858342988292100

Sometimes it's hard to get back once you blow it up. Takes luck in FA and luck in the draft. We got some luck in the draft this year for the first time in years. Maybe we get some real luck in FA this off-season? Maybe Wroten pans out?

Who knows.

We have heard this before let Phil do his job. Melo need not recruit because players really don't want to play with him.

Rebuilding is hard but the Knicks never have been really back so drop off will be status quo. Melo is not a superstar he is a good player. People need to stop throwing superstar around on good players. Another factor what player would want to play with a player that can't make it through 82 games. Hasn't anyone noticed that the Knicks have been down hill after Melo sat out that game after stepping on the ref. He was good enough to sit on the bench and bark at his teammates and give his advice. He should have been out there and playing showing his teammates how badly he wants to win a Willis Reed moment that he passed on.

The Knicks need Melo to waive his NTC not recruit.

Can you base the bold on anything tangible, logical or that can be quantified???

When was the last time the Knicks signed FAs as good as Tyson, Lopez or Afflalo?

That is Phil doing his job not Melo recruiting. So far Melo has a nothing to show. When do players come here saying they came because of Melo.

So Chandler and Lopez dont count because they didnt say "I signed because of Melo" ????? Seriously man. So when nobody signs its Melo's fault and when someone does sign its the GM doing their job. Do I have it right?

You got it right Fish. It's Melo's fault he wants to be alpha dog he isn't ready to relinquish that so what does he try and bring not Durant but Rajon F'ing Rando.

Maybe Melo knows there's no chance in hell Durant would come here.

Where the heck on the floor would Durant fit here?

His coming here would cause so many more problems than it solved. Also, it wouldn't get Durant anywhere near a championship.

So you're mad at Melo for being realistic? I apologize if your post was meant to be sarcastic! Because then it was pretty funny!

He should be realistic and not say anything. Because he is gonna look like a fool when no one worth while comes here. This guy acts like he has pull he has none. The reason AA came here is because no one was offering him a better deal than Phil. Lopez was a contingency plan for Aldridge and Monroe.

Thank god we got Lopez over Monroe. Afflalo was signed by the Knicks on the first or second day of Free Agency, he wanted to come here and didn't talk to any other team. How do you know he couldn't have gotten more elsewhere.

I guess Melo might look a fool if they can't get anyone, I guess you might look like one if they do?

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's too bad so many fans hate him - we have an all-star here committed to bringing in more talent and winning here.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/706958173769306112

Also, as Howard Beck tweeted earlier today - Magic traded Dwight Howard four years ago. They're still rebuilding - still hoping to lure a max guy this summer in Orlando.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/706858342988292100

Sometimes it's hard to get back once you blow it up. Takes luck in FA and luck in the draft. We got some luck in the draft this year for the first time in years. Maybe we get some real luck in FA this off-season? Maybe Wroten pans out?

Who knows.

We have heard this before let Phil do his job. Melo need not recruit because players really don't want to play with him.

Rebuilding is hard but the Knicks never have been really back so drop off will be status quo. Melo is not a superstar he is a good player. People need to stop throwing superstar around on good players. Another factor what player would want to play with a player that can't make it through 82 games. Hasn't anyone noticed that the Knicks have been down hill after Melo sat out that game after stepping on the ref. He was good enough to sit on the bench and bark at his teammates and give his advice. He should have been out there and playing showing his teammates how badly he wants to win a Willis Reed moment that he passed on.

The Knicks need Melo to waive his NTC not recruit.

Can you base the bold on anything tangible, logical or that can be quantified???

When was the last time the Knicks signed FAs as good as Tyson, Lopez or Afflalo?

That is Phil doing his job not Melo recruiting. So far Melo has a nothing to show. When do players come here saying they came because of Melo.

So Chandler and Lopez dont count because they didnt say "I signed because of Melo" ????? Seriously man. So when nobody signs its Melo's fault and when someone does sign its the GM doing their job. Do I have it right?

You got it right Fish. It's Melo's fault he wants to be alpha dog he isn't ready to relinquish that so what does he try and bring not Durant but Rajon F'ing Rando.

Maybe Melo knows there's no chance in hell Durant would come here.

Where the heck on the floor would Durant fit here?

His coming here would cause so many more problems than it solved. Also, it wouldn't get Durant anywhere near a championship.

So you're mad at Melo for being realistic? I apologize if your post was meant to be sarcastic! Because then it was pretty funny!

He should be realistic and not say anything. Because he is gonna look like a fool when no one worth while comes here. This guy acts like he has pull he has none. The reason AA came here is because no one was offering him a better deal than Phil. Lopez was a contingency plan for Aldridge and Monroe.

Thank god we got Lopez over Monroe. Afflalo was signed by the Knicks on the first or second day of Free Agency, he wanted to come here and didn't talk to any other team. How do you know he couldn't have gotten more elsewhere.

I guess Melo might look a fool if they can't get anyone, I guess you might look like one if they do?

I might look the fool and it's ok but you don't even want the problem of having Durant on the team in a hypothetical situation. We are six year into this and I'm still waiting for Melo to deliver the Knicks a star side kick.

Why is it Melo's responsibility to deliver the star side kick again? Also, Porzingis might be the side kick. He's hit the rookie wall now, but next season he'll be back and better.

It's not that I don't want Durant on the team in a hypothetical situation. It's just that it is so far from the realm of possibilities that I don't think it's worth considering it for all that long. And I certainly don't think it's worth slamming Melo for not bringing Durant here. I don't think Durant is leaving OKC, but if he does, he's going somewhere that will be ready to win a championship the second they add Durant. That does not seem to be the case here.

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's too bad so many fans hate him - we have an all-star here committed to bringing in more talent and winning here.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/706958173769306112

Also, as Howard Beck tweeted earlier today - Magic traded Dwight Howard four years ago. They're still rebuilding - still hoping to lure a max guy this summer in Orlando.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/706858342988292100

Sometimes it's hard to get back once you blow it up. Takes luck in FA and luck in the draft. We got some luck in the draft this year for the first time in years. Maybe we get some real luck in FA this off-season? Maybe Wroten pans out?

Who knows.

We have heard this before let Phil do his job. Melo need not recruit because players really don't want to play with him.

Rebuilding is hard but the Knicks never have been really back so drop off will be status quo. Melo is not a superstar he is a good player. People need to stop throwing superstar around on good players. Another factor what player would want to play with a player that can't make it through 82 games. Hasn't anyone noticed that the Knicks have been down hill after Melo sat out that game after stepping on the ref. He was good enough to sit on the bench and bark at his teammates and give his advice. He should have been out there and playing showing his teammates how badly he wants to win a Willis Reed moment that he passed on.

The Knicks need Melo to waive his NTC not recruit.

Can you base the bold on anything tangible, logical or that can be quantified???

When was the last time the Knicks signed FAs as good as Tyson, Lopez or Afflalo?

That is Phil doing his job not Melo recruiting. So far Melo has a nothing to show. When do players come here saying they came because of Melo.

Guess you don't really follow the team. Or just like to quote yourself. Look up any pre season interview in which the new free agents were asked "Why NY?" They all responded and mentioned that one of the reasons was to be able to play with a player of Melo's caliber.......next?

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's too bad so many fans hate him - we have an all-star here committed to bringing in more talent and winning here.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/706958173769306112

Also, as Howard Beck tweeted earlier today - Magic traded Dwight Howard four years ago. They're still rebuilding - still hoping to lure a max guy this summer in Orlando.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/706858342988292100

Sometimes it's hard to get back once you blow it up. Takes luck in FA and luck in the draft. We got some luck in the draft this year for the first time in years. Maybe we get some real luck in FA this off-season? Maybe Wroten pans out?

Who knows.

We have heard this before let Phil do his job. Melo need not recruit because players really don't want to play with him.

Rebuilding is hard but the Knicks never have been really back so drop off will be status quo. Melo is not a superstar he is a good player. People need to stop throwing superstar around on good players. Another factor what player would want to play with a player that can't make it through 82 games. Hasn't anyone noticed that the Knicks have been down hill after Melo sat out that game after stepping on the ref. He was good enough to sit on the bench and bark at his teammates and give his advice. He should have been out there and playing showing his teammates how badly he wants to win a Willis Reed moment that he passed on.

The Knicks need Melo to waive his NTC not recruit.

Can you base the bold on anything tangible, logical or that can be quantified???

When was the last time the Knicks signed FAs as good as Tyson, Lopez or Afflalo?

That is Phil doing his job not Melo recruiting. So far Melo has a nothing to show. When do players come here saying they came because of Melo.

So Chandler and Lopez dont count because they didnt say "I signed because of Melo" ????? Seriously man. So when nobody signs its Melo's fault and when someone does sign its the GM doing their job. Do I have it right?

You got it right Fish. It's Melo's fault he wants to be alpha dog he isn't ready to relinquish that so what does he try and bring not Durant but Rajon F'ing Rando.

Maybe Melo knows there's no chance in hell Durant would come here.

Where the heck on the floor would Durant fit here?

His coming here would cause so many more problems than it solved. Also, it wouldn't get Durant anywhere near a championship.

So you're mad at Melo for being realistic? I apologize if your post was meant to be sarcastic! Because then it was pretty funny!

He should be realistic and not say anything. Because he is gonna look like a fool when no one worth while comes here. This guy acts like he has pull he has none. The reason AA came here is because no one was offering him a better deal than Phil. Lopez was a contingency plan for Aldridge and Monroe.

Thank god we got Lopez over Monroe. Afflalo was signed by the Knicks on the first or second day of Free Agency, he wanted to come here and didn't talk to any other team. How do you know he couldn't have gotten more elsewhere.

I guess Melo might look a fool if they can't get anyone, I guess you might look like one if they do?

I might look the fool and it's ok but you don't even want the problem of having Durant on the team in a hypothetical situation. We are six year into this and I'm still waiting for Melo to deliver the Knicks a star side kick.

Why is it Melo's responsibility to deliver the star side kick again? Also, Porzingis might be the side kick. He's hit the rookie wall now, but next season he'll be back and better.

It's not that I don't want Durant on the team in a hypothetical situation. It's just that it is so far from the realm of possibilities that I don't think it's worth considering it for all that long. And I certainly don't think it's worth slamming Melo for not bringing Durant here. I don't think Durant is leaving OKC, but if he does, he's going somewhere that will be ready to win a championship the second they add Durant. That does not seem to be the case here.

It's not his responsibility thats what I am say. I'm say don't say anything he wants to recruit so does he want some degree of responsibility. Let Phil do his job Melo needs to be a basketball player and not a recruiter. He needs to realize he isn't all that he trying to talk like he is in the conversation of the superstars and thinks he can ask players to come play with him. He isn't LeBron, Curry, Duncan he doesn't have that power of a Larry Bird, Majic Johnson or Jordan where people want to play with them. I don't think Melo realizes that he doesn't pave a path to the championship.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It's too bad so many fans hate him - we have an all-star here committed to bringing in more talent and winning here.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/706958173769306112

Also, as Howard Beck tweeted earlier today - Magic traded Dwight Howard four years ago. They're still rebuilding - still hoping to lure a max guy this summer in Orlando.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/706858342988292100

Sometimes it's hard to get back once you blow it up. Takes luck in FA and luck in the draft. We got some luck in the draft this year for the first time in years. Maybe we get some real luck in FA this off-season? Maybe Wroten pans out?

Who knows.

We have heard this before let Phil do his job. Melo need not recruit because players really don't want to play with him.

Rebuilding is hard but the Knicks never have been really back so drop off will be status quo. Melo is not a superstar he is a good player. People need to stop throwing superstar around on good players. Another factor what player would want to play with a player that can't make it through 82 games. Hasn't anyone noticed that the Knicks have been down hill after Melo sat out that game after stepping on the ref. He was good enough to sit on the bench and bark at his teammates and give his advice. He should have been out there and playing showing his teammates how badly he wants to win a Willis Reed moment that he passed on.

The Knicks need Melo to waive his NTC not recruit.

Can you base the bold on anything tangible, logical or that can be quantified???

When was the last time the Knicks signed FAs as good as Tyson, Lopez or Afflalo?

That is Phil doing his job not Melo recruiting. So far Melo has a nothing to show. When do players come here saying they came because of Melo.

Guess you don't really follow the team. Or just like to quote yourself. Look up any pre season interview in which the new free agents were asked "Why NY?" They all responded and mentioned that one of the reasons was to be able to play with a player of Melo's caliber.......next?

I follow the team enough to know MSG propaganda. Loaded questions. Did you choose the Knicks because of Melo? How would you answer that question without throwing anyone under the bus. We all grew up with the Derek Jeter school of Media mastery.