BRIGGS wrote:I get what he was trying to say with Chris Jackson But hes way way off. People are underestimating Steph Curry's physical power. I'm 6-5 and physically bigger than Steph Curry(also 47) but there is simply no way I could get on a basketball court and shoot it like I was shooting a 20 footer from 38 feet. It takes INCREDIBLE core strength and almost inhuman hand eye coordination (accuracy) to do what he does. Thats why I say hes the M Jordan of his time or maybe better. MJ was great but even he has no chance to do what Steph Curry can do. No one in the history of basketball can do it.

Yes, this. Also his handle is incredible, one of the best I've seen.

HofstraBBall wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Phil **** is clearly because he feels threatened by the GSW's chances of beating his 72-10 record. And also because he's bitter about Kerr. He's probably misguided enough to think that Kerr would be doing that here. And while Kerr would probably be better than Rambis... meh. I still think firing Fisher was a massive misstep. I think that ruins everything and Phil should just take his talents to Redondo Beach.

Not to mention the Triangle is the complete antisethis to what GS runs.

Is that so? Or is it such that the players and talent that the Knicks have right now are just **** and can't do what the Triangle is supposed to be like.

I think what GS runs is an enhanced version of what the Triangle is supposed to be like. Lots of cuts and passes and player movement. Knicks don't have the talent or players to do that yet. Gallo and Jose can't pass or dribble drive. KP is a lost rookie out there some times and Rolo is just getting his feet wet. Makes sense to me that the offense looks horrible at times.

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Phil **** is clearly because he feels threatened by the GSW's chances of beating his 72-10 record. And also because he's bitter about Kerr. He's probably misguided enough to think that Kerr would be doing that here. And while Kerr would probably be better than Rambis... meh. I still think firing Fisher was a massive misstep. I think that ruins everything and Phil should just take his talents to Redondo Beach.

Not to mention the Triangle is the complete antisethis to what GS runs.

Is that so? Or is it such that the players and talent that the Knicks have right now are just **** and can't do what the Triangle is supposed to be like.

I think what GS runs is an enhanced version of what the Triangle is supposed to be like. Lots of cuts and passes and player movement. Knicks don't have the talent or players to do that yet. Gallo and Jose can't pass or dribble drive. KP is a lost rookie out there some times and Rolo is just getting his feet wet. Makes sense to me that the offense looks horrible at times.

Cut passes and movement do not a Triangle make. The Triangle is the triple post with cuts and movement around it. Sure, the Warriors move and cut. They do not triple post. They run plays and take shots the Triangle has never seen before.

If GSW is running the Triangle so much, why is Phil so threatened by them? All his truly embarrassing tweets have been about the Warriors, like a spurned lover jealously watching his ex (Kerr) do well elsewhere. It's not a good look.

ChuckBuck wrote:

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No. Just no.

This guy.

Does not compare to this guy.

This guy.

Isn't in the same planet as this guy.

The first couple tweets like Goink and writing a thesis on Twitter we'd all probably let go as old people gon old people. Like the Grandpa that don't know how to use the computer.

This right here....if he didn't draft Kristaps Porzingis, his early returns on his presidency of the New York Knicks would likely be viewed as a colossal failure. Game done passed this phucking moron by.

H.Beck puts out a tweet saying Phil is sitting back and laughing about how people are taking his tweets.

http://b.bm324.com/t/l?ssid=10573&subscriber_id=bqfkvfrvyaslxvuhknxlowtgvfstbpj&delivery_id=azbcrljhrbulqlcuutmmktvrputxbeo&td=cFoiMddbPxPxnfd51V2i0gEo53iifUkwfUbEzWRdKLC3IJclXWbjKfmzWagsEdK5ZmPJyxHE6bcfGL1oN6_P0dYsoifYXxmu6__WLqev6XJsVtyYSfjGTZt_kTN1sxcB-MOmsoV4ByyVa7ldkI_6IWbPXgmHTkVkmyBTBmN4KGR3TslPxUIi6MiDex3Lz_xyX_uAjf_p4c2LXF_LIbC-bFIXy8wpGDj_44UYiegQf2ZdrbU3iJEh2_UkYMFqKJnKK3OwhsNkSsXvk

newyorker4ever wrote:H.Beck puts out a tweet saying Phil is sitting back and laughing about how people are taking his tweets.

http://b.bm324.com/t/l?ssid=10573&subscriber_id=bqfkvfrvyaslxvuhknxlowtgvfstbpj&delivery_id=azbcrljhrbulqlcuutmmktvrputxbeo&td=cFoiMddbPxPxnfd51V2i0gEo53iifUkwfUbEzWRdKLC3IJclXWbjKfmzWagsEdK5ZmPJyxHE6bcfGL1oN6_P0dYsoifYXxmu6__WLqev6XJsVtyYSfjGTZt_kTN1sxcB-MOmsoV4ByyVa7ldkI_6IWbPXgmHTkVkmyBTBmN4KGR3TslPxUIi6MiDex3Lz_xyX_uAjf_p4c2LXF_LIbC-bFIXy8wpGDj_44UYiegQf2ZdrbU3iJEh2_UkYMFqKJnKK3OwhsNkSsXvk

I think this is the sort of mind game he would play heading into a game against opposing players as a coach. He would use the media to get out the message he wanted. It was oddly effective. And annoying back then. Randomly tweeting potshots at a superstar because he feels threatened by the Warriors success? I don't see what the point is, other than to try to get in Steph's or the Warrior's head and make them miss out on breaking Phil's record.

BRIGGS wrote:I get what he was trying to say with Chris Jackson But hes way way off. People are underestimating Steph Curry's physical power. I'm 6-5 and physically bigger than Steph Curry(also 47) but there is simply no way I could get on a basketball court and shoot it like I was shooting a 20 footer from 38 feet. It takes INCREDIBLE core strength and almost inhuman hand eye coordination (accuracy) to do what he does. Thats why I say hes the M Jordan of his time or maybe better. MJ was great but even he has no chance to do what Steph Curry can do. No one in the history of basketball can do it.

Well that was a totally off base comment.

crzymdups wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:H.Beck puts out a tweet saying Phil is sitting back and laughing about how people are taking his tweets.

http://b.bm324.com/t/l?ssid=10573&subscriber_id=bqfkvfrvyaslxvuhknxlowtgvfstbpj&delivery_id=azbcrljhrbulqlcuutmmktvrputxbeo&td=cFoiMddbPxPxnfd51V2i0gEo53iifUkwfUbEzWRdKLC3IJclXWbjKfmzWagsEdK5ZmPJyxHE6bcfGL1oN6_P0dYsoifYXxmu6__WLqev6XJsVtyYSfjGTZt_kTN1sxcB-MOmsoV4ByyVa7ldkI_6IWbPXgmHTkVkmyBTBmN4KGR3TslPxUIi6MiDex3Lz_xyX_uAjf_p4c2LXF_LIbC-bFIXy8wpGDj_44UYiegQf2ZdrbU3iJEh2_UkYMFqKJnKK3OwhsNkSsXvk

I think this is the sort of mind game he would play heading into a game against opposing players as a coach. He would use the media to get out the message he wanted. It was oddly effective. And annoying back then. Randomly tweeting potshots at a superstar because he feels threatened by the Warriors success? I don't see what the point is, other than to try to get in Steph's or the Warrior's head and make them miss out on breaking Phil's record.

Basically he's busy mad about the Warriors getting 73 to one up the 72 win Bulls, then worrying about his own downtrodden current franchise that has no pick this year. No moves at the deadline, bad pick of coaches, mismanagement of roster, "clumsy" system that doesn't fit personnel.

I didn't think Phil could turn things around so quick, but I didn't think things would look so bleak either...

KP6 you're our only hope...

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https://twitter.com/EliteSportsNY/status/704112779737698304

ChuckBuck wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:H.Beck puts out a tweet saying Phil is sitting back and laughing about how people are taking his tweets.

http://b.bm324.com/t/l?ssid=10573&subscriber_id=bqfkvfrvyaslxvuhknxlowtgvfstbpj&delivery_id=azbcrljhrbulqlcuutmmktvrputxbeo&td=cFoiMddbPxPxnfd51V2i0gEo53iifUkwfUbEzWRdKLC3IJclXWbjKfmzWagsEdK5ZmPJyxHE6bcfGL1oN6_P0dYsoifYXxmu6__WLqev6XJsVtyYSfjGTZt_kTN1sxcB-MOmsoV4ByyVa7ldkI_6IWbPXgmHTkVkmyBTBmN4KGR3TslPxUIi6MiDex3Lz_xyX_uAjf_p4c2LXF_LIbC-bFIXy8wpGDj_44UYiegQf2ZdrbU3iJEh2_UkYMFqKJnKK3OwhsNkSsXvk

I think this is the sort of mind game he would play heading into a game against opposing players as a coach. He would use the media to get out the message he wanted. It was oddly effective. And annoying back then. Randomly tweeting potshots at a superstar because he feels threatened by the Warriors success? I don't see what the point is, other than to try to get in Steph's or the Warrior's head and make them miss out on breaking Phil's record.

Basically he's busy mad about the Warriors getting 73 to one up the 72 win Bulls, then worrying about his own downtrodden current franchise that has no pick this year. No moves at the deadline, bad pick of coaches, mismanagement of roster, "clumsy" system that doesn't fit personnel.

I didn't think Phil could turn things around so quick, but I didn't think things would look so bleak either...

KP6 you're our only hope...

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/EliteSportsNY/status/704112779737698304

The things you ASSUME are so ridiculous but you don't have any facts to prove your ASSUMPTIONS.

HofstraBBall wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Not sure why you guys are getting upset at me or the media.

Phil Jackson has sole control over that twitter account and typed it out personally. If you think Stephen Curry is the 2nd coming of Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf knock yourself out. I'm pretty sure the majority of people in the world would have a different opinion.

Just like you and Melo. Maybe you are more like Phil in this situation than you realize. You compared Melo to Stoudemire. If i were you, i wouldn't make fun of other's comparisons. Your's take the cake.

Melo is comparable to Stoudemire in that he hasn't come close to playing a full season in a few years. Also numbers and game on the wrong downtrend.

So just like Durant, Wade, Davis. Got it.

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Phil **** is clearly because he feels threatened by the GSW's chances of beating his 72-10 record. And also because he's bitter about Kerr. He's probably misguided enough to think that Kerr would be doing that here. And while Kerr would probably be better than Rambis... meh. I still think firing Fisher was a massive misstep. I think that ruins everything and Phil should just take his talents to Redondo Beach.

Not to mention the Triangle is the complete antisethis to what GS runs.

Is that so? Or is it such that the players and talent that the Knicks have right now are just **** and can't do what the Triangle is supposed to be like.

I think what GS runs is an enhanced version of what the Triangle is supposed to be like. Lots of cuts and passes and player movement. Knicks don't have the talent or players to do that yet. Gallo and Jose can't pass or dribble drive. KP is a lost rookie out there some times and Rolo is just getting his feet wet. Makes sense to me that the offense looks horrible at times.

Obviously a big difference in talent level. Disagree with the similarities you claim to the triangle. The triangle focuses on the 5 or 4 running the offense from the high or pinch post position. Thats why PJ likes and needs passing bigs. GS runs their offense from guard position with pick and rolls. They run several picks per possession. Ofcourse they spread and balance the floor and have off players cut as it is still basketbal. Most offenses do. But their main emphasis is to catch defensive players on switches and mis matches produced by pick and roll from guard position.

As for talent level being the cause. So your saying we run every part of the Triangle except the part of PG pick and rolls because of limited talent level? Why would PJ allow just that part to be eliminated? Yet we have shown to have the talent level to conduct all other aspects of the triangle?

GustavBahler wrote:Phil (by his own admission )has kept his distance from the team since joining the Knicks. At times wouldnt acknowledge his own players while walking down the hall. Listen to some of the interviews with players who said that they hope that Phil spends more time with them, pass on some knowledge, words of advice. I think they're still waiting after almost 2 full seasons. Seems counterintuitive for someone who preaches the team concept to be keeping as much distance as Phil has since being hired. Phil has admitted more that once that he hasnt been as hands on as he should, yet I still dont see any real change in his approach. I find that very disturbing. If the Knicks were doing well, if he hadn't just fired his coach who he told that he shouldnt have kept his distance, I might understand.

The players want Phil to have a more active role, Im pretty sure the coaches as well, but even now we only hear about Phil's cannabis inspired tweets. For all his talk about wanting to stay around and finish the job, Phil carries himself like someone who has one eye on the exit. If next season we go to yet another Triangle coach (or keep Rambis) and its more of the same, with Phil doing his Phantom of MSG act, then Id rather Gaines got promoted to GM and Mills takes Phil's job. He is talking the talk when it comes to being a team player, but he isnt walking the walk.

How many coaches want their President to have a more active role with their players? Phil hired a rookie coach with obvious personal issues. Hanging around and pseudo coaching would hardly have had a great impact on Fish, would it? The guy came across as mildly neurotic during press conferences. You really wanted Phil standing over his shoulder during practices?

Now with Rambis, maybe you have a point. But I think it's been made pretty clear by Phil himself that coaching is not going to happen, so what is he supposed to do, exactly? Nod in a sage way while Rambis is at the whiteboard? Help Langston with his jumper? Motivate Jose to run faster? Say lots of triangularly things during timeouts?

I'm not a fan of Phil tweeting nonsense, especially about other teams and non-Knicks, but I doubt at this stage being more hands on is going to provide anything in the W-L column.

Phuck what the players want; Phil's job is to go get us better players.