dacash wrote:

VCoug wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Melo and either Lance or Lou to Cleveland

Love to Boston

Knicks get David Lee (huge expiring), Mozgov (expiring),Marcus Smart, a #1 pick from Boston and a second rounder from Cleveland.

That works for me!

Yep! This trade makes a ton of sense. I wonder if we'd be able to flip Mozgov or Lee to another team that needs front court help.

if mozgov is the back up we can trade seraphin and/or koq for back court help or more second round pick

We'd get a better return if we traded Mozgov and he's a free agent this Summer. I would imagine he'll be more interested in signing somewhere he can start.

VCoug wrote:

dacash wrote:

VCoug wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Melo and either Lance or Lou to Cleveland

Love to Boston

Knicks get David Lee (huge expiring), Mozgov (expiring),Marcus Smart, a #1 pick from Boston and a second rounder from Cleveland.

That works for me!

Yep! This trade makes a ton of sense. I wonder if we'd be able to flip Mozgov or Lee to another team that needs front court help.

if mozgov is the back up we can trade seraphin and/or koq for back court help or more second round pick

We'd get a better return if we traded Mozgov and he's a free agent this Summer. I would imagine he'll be more interested in signing somewhere he can start.

The Celtics were going to trade 4 1st rounders to move up for Frank Kaminsky. It's gonna be at least 3 for this, probably 5 considering their getting a star and shedding Lee...

wargames wrote:

VCoug wrote:

dacash wrote:

VCoug wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Melo and either Lance or Lou to Cleveland

Love to Boston

Knicks get David Lee (huge expiring), Mozgov (expiring),Marcus Smart, a #1 pick from Boston and a second rounder from Cleveland.

That works for me!

Yep! This trade makes a ton of sense. I wonder if we'd be able to flip Mozgov or Lee to another team that needs front court help.

if mozgov is the back up we can trade seraphin and/or koq for back court help or more second round pick

We'd get a better return if we traded Mozgov and he's a free agent this Summer. I would imagine he'll be more interested in signing somewhere he can start.

The Celtics were going to trade 4 1st rounders to move up for Frank Kaminsky. It's gonna be at least 3 for this, probably 5 considering their getting a star and shedding Lee...

I'm looking at the picks Boston and Cleveland have available to trade :http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I think at a minimum here's what I'm asking for. Here's what I'm asking for from Boston: Brooklyn's 2016 1st, Minnesota's protected 2016 1st (will end up being two 2nds), and either Dallas' 2016 1st, one of the other two Brooklyn 1st, or Memphis' protected 2018 1st. From Cleveland I want to get the 2019 2nd that either LA or MN owes them and a future 1st. Don't really care about any players coming back to us other than Smart or Crowder but I'd sacrifice them for more 1st rounders and I'm including whatever other players Cleveland or Boston want other than KP obviously. Would prefer to keep Jerian Grant even though he hasn't shown much of anything.

callmened wrote:possible Melo to Cavs trade. when asked about it Melo said "Id have to talk it over with my family"

Let the RUMORS BEGIN!!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/isola-melo-veto-deal-send-cavs-article-1.2530306

Did he change the article or something, because the actual tone of it and what Melo said seems to be the exact opposite of what you're implying. The actual quote is:

Those talks have not progressed. Plus Anthony reiterated on Friday that he has no plans to seek a trade. However, when asked if he’s thought about his future with a losing organization, Anthony gave a cryptic answer.

“Not yet. I’m pretty sure I’ll have that conversation with myself and my family and my team,” he said. “But it’s not a conversation for right now.”

I've been saying we should work out three way deal with Boston for a while. Not sure how he'd fit with Irving or how he'd cope living in Cleveland, but he's friends with JR and Lebron. Might be happier with the Clippers due to CP3 and them being in LA, though with the Cavs he'd probably get further into the playoffs.

However, from what he's said I think he's willing to stay on the Knicks until this offseason and see if we can land any big names.

nixluva wrote:This thing is taking on a life of its own. I'm positive Melo's agent is putting out feelers to all of Melo's preferred destinations and doing everything he can to help grease the skids for a deal.

Phil is likely all ears as well. Everyone can get what they want if they just talk!!!

VCoug wrote:

wargames wrote:

VCoug wrote:

dacash wrote:

VCoug wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Melo and either Lance or Lou to Cleveland

Love to Boston

Knicks get David Lee (huge expiring), Mozgov (expiring),Marcus Smart, a #1 pick from Boston and a second rounder from Cleveland.

That works for me!

Yep! This trade makes a ton of sense. I wonder if we'd be able to flip Mozgov or Lee to another team that needs front court help.

if mozgov is the back up we can trade seraphin and/or koq for back court help or more second round pick

We'd get a better return if we traded Mozgov and he's a free agent this Summer. I would imagine he'll be more interested in signing somewhere he can start.

The Celtics were going to trade 4 1st rounders to move up for Frank Kaminsky. It's gonna be at least 3 for this, probably 5 considering their getting a star and shedding Lee...

I'm looking at the picks Boston and Cleveland have available to trade :http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I think at a minimum here's what I'm asking for. Here's what I'm asking for from Boston: Brooklyn's 2016 1st, Minnesota's protected 2016 1st (will end up being two 2nds), and either Dallas' 2016 1st, one of the other two Brooklyn 1st, or Memphis' protected 2018 1st. From Cleveland I want to get the 2019 2nd that either LA or MN owes them and a future 1st. Don't really care about any players coming back to us other than Smart or Crowder but I'd sacrifice them for more 1st rounders and I'm including whatever other players Cleveland or Boston want other than KP obviously. Would prefer to keep Jerian Grant even though he hasn't shown much of anything.

I'm right there with your thinking about the picks but highly doubt the Celtics would give up pivotal players in their rotation, other than Jared Sullinger. Why would they want to tamper with the group that produced the 3rd best record in the East and the 6th best record in the league since they got Isiah Thomas? I suspect that whatever contracts we get in return would be attached to David Lee and recent players they drafted/acquired who are on the periphery i.e. Terry Rozier, RJ Hunter, James Young, Tyler Zeller, Jordan Mickey, with Kelly Olynk being included in a seperate deal for a rim protector. With the number of picks they have, they can more than supplement value that those contracts do no offer.

I also highly doubt that Timofey is included in the deal to us. The Cavs and Celtics both need rim protectors, which Mozgov offers whereas we already have ours in Lopez....who I wouldn't be surprised to see included in the deal.

But I'd be totally on board for this deal though I doubt Melo agrees to go to Cleveland, even with LeBron.

smackeddog wrote:

wargames wrote:

VCoug wrote:

dacash wrote:

VCoug wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Melo and either Lance or Lou to Cleveland

Love to Boston

Knicks get David Lee (huge expiring), Mozgov (expiring),Marcus Smart, a #1 pick from Boston and a second rounder from Cleveland.

That works for me!

Yep! This trade makes a ton of sense. I wonder if we'd be able to flip Mozgov or Lee to another team that needs front court help.

if mozgov is the back up we can trade seraphin and/or koq for back court help or more second round pick

We'd get a better return if we traded Mozgov and he's a free agent this Summer. I would imagine he'll be more interested in signing somewhere he can start.

The Celtics were going to trade 4 1st rounders to move up for Frank Kaminsky. It's gonna be at least 3 for this, probably 5 considering their getting a star and shedding Lee...

Exactly- I'd aim high. I'd also want one of their guards- Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley or even Rozier. Also maybe one of their PFs. With Mosgov you could flip him and trade him for further assets (he's expiring and doesn't really fit a need since we have Lopez.

Doesn't make sense for Mozgov to be included in the deal unless Robin Lopez is going to either the Celtics or Cavs, which wouldn't surprise me. Lopez would be an upgrade over either teams' starting 5.

I also highly doubt that the Celtics give up any rotation players. Why would they want to with the 3rd best record in the East? Why would they need to with all the picks they could offer us, with David Lee's expirer?

nyknickzingis wrote:If we wind up getting the Brooklyn pick, then I'm all for it.

Without that pick, there would be no way Id do the deal