crzymdups wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:From listening to Phil's press conference, I tend to think that there will be a renewed emphasis on the Triangle under Rambis.

Doesn't mean that he won't tinker with the rotation, but I doubt if we see a drastic move from Phil's ideas on how to run an offense.

Talked about everyone on the staff being on the same page...got to think that Fisher and his young assistants might have wanted to move away from the Triangle, and that Rambis and Cleamons were being marginalized.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/696756513327685632

Should be interesting, but I'm not sure some around here are going to like the renewed emphasis on the Triangle, IMO.

Yeah, I'm sort of convinced more than anything that all that pick and roll we saw in the second half lately had a lot to do with this move. Fisher ditched the Triangle and went pure pick and roll to get back in the games.

I actually think this is NOT a great sign for going forward.

This is a sign of Phil being stubborn and unwilling to admit "the system" may need to change.

Will be interesting to see what the offense looks like the next few games.

NardDogNation wrote:I think Rambis only helps to excaberate the problem. His stint with the Wolves makes me entirely pessimistic of him being able to make any situation better. It'll be business as usual until the offseason when we can approach Luke Walton.

Is anyone worried about not having a new coach in place when free agency hits cause it's something that could hurt with getting free agents to sign with us???

gunsnewing wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:Anyone know the names of these assistants on Team Fisher versus Team Phil?

The young dude that came over from OKC who usually speaks at half time. I'm sure Phil didn't expect a mutiny when he allowed Fisher to bring in some of his own guys

I think Harlow likes interviewing the OKC guy...smiles a lot when she interviews him. I'll bet Fisher brought her on board, too.

Time to bring Tina back...

WaltLongmire wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I think Rambis only helps to excaberate the problem. His stint with the Wolves makes me entirely pessimistic of him being able to make any situation better. It'll be business as usual until the offseason when we can approach Luke Walton.

Is anyone worried about not having a new coach in place when free agency hits cause it's something that could hurt with getting free agents to sign with us???

Fair point.

Even if we have someone by then, he'll still be a new coach- some might shy away from that kind of team, unless the coach is an established guy with a good track record.

It may not be as big of a deal if 1. Rambis turns the team around and they play well and get into the playoffs. 2. If Rambis is not quite as successful and Phil starts talks with a Thibs type coach that can raise expectations. Remember Agents get all the inside info from GM's about what they're thinking in Free Agent situations.

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 2008
Lakers success starts with defense

Before the Lakers opened training camp, Phil Jackson brought together his staff "and told them he was appointing a defensive coach, something he hadn't done in his previous 18 years of coaching in the NBA."

Longtime assistant Kurt Rambis (pictured here) took on the role of defensive guru as "the Lakers began working on the new defense during training camp and continue(d) to practice it almost every day."

According to the LA Times, "Jackson adjusted Rambis' coaching duties before the season in hopes of establishing this type of success. He typically gives each of his assistant coaches seven or eight teams to vigorously track throughout the season, but he reduced Rambis' workload to only three teams (Phoenix, Boston and Oklahoma City) to let Rambis concentrate primarily on the Lakers' defense.

Said Coach Rambis, who won four NBA titles as a Laker player: "I've always enjoyed new opportunities to grow as a coach and the challenges that would come with it."

With the players buying in wholeheartedly, the results have been excellent:

The Lakers (12-1) are third in the league in opponents' shooting percentage (42.2%), sixth in points given up (92.7 a game), and first in point differential (14.3 a game).

The players have eaten it up, finding an appetite for steals (a league-best 10.4 a game) and blocked shots (6.2 a game, sixth-best in the league) that matches their zest for alley-oop dunks and three-on-one breaks.

Says Kobe Bryant:

"The thought process is that you want to win a championship. In order to beat a Boston, you've got to be a better defensive team than Boston. If you want to hoist that trophy at the end of the year, we've got to be a great defensive team. That's the only way to get it done."

Coach Rambis had "pestered" Coach Jackson to allow him to try something new defensively, but Coach Jackson had resisted, saying, "I come from the old school where you play man [defense], and you have that man and that's your primary goal."

According to the Times article:

"The Lakers now use a lot of zone principles and try to keep the ball on one side of the court. They put pressure on the ballhandler to try to force him to a particular side and then often overload the area by sending an extra defender to stand down near the post, essentially shifting the defense from man-to-man to zone.

Skip passes to the undermanned side can hurt the Lakers, but their defense has been quick to jump into passing lanes and create turnovers. Crucial to their defensive success is extreme pressure on the ballhandler. Without that pressure, the ballhandler can see the court and find open teammates."

http://emuss.blogspot.com/2008/11/lakers-success-starts-with-defense.html

CrushAlot wrote:

Rookie wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I think Rambis only helps to excaberate the problem. His stint with the Wolves makes me entirely pessimistic of him being able to make any situation better. It'll be business as usual until the offseason when we can approach Luke Walton.

I don't get all the Walton love. What has he done as a coach? Do we really need to take another shot on a guy with no head coaching experience?

He was an assistant (dleague?) the year before joining Kerr at Golden State. He has been an assistant, a lead assistant and an interim head coach. He has a lot more experience on the bench then Fisher. Three years on the bench. I think I would prefer Walton ver Shaw.

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Rookie wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I think Rambis only helps to excaberate the problem. His stint with the Wolves makes me entirely pessimistic of him being able to make any situation better. It'll be business as usual until the offseason when we can approach Luke Walton.

I don't get all the Walton love. What has he done as a coach? Do we really need to take another shot on a guy with no head coaching experience?

He was an assistant (dleague?) the year before joining Kerr at Golden State. He has been an assistant, a lead assistant and an interim head coach. He has a lot more experience on the bench then Fisher. Three years on the bench. I think I would prefer Walton ver Shaw.

Shaw is said to have had the same communication issues as Fish. I don't know if Walton is the real deal or not but I wouldn't want Shaw.

Agree about this.

Rookie wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I think Rambis only helps to excaberate the problem. His stint with the Wolves makes me entirely pessimistic of him being able to make any situation better. It'll be business as usual until the offseason when we can approach Luke Walton.

I don't get all the Walton love. What has he done as a coach? Do we really need to take another shot on a guy with no head coaching experience?