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Nalod
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1/21/2016  10:24 PM
Don't worry about Dwill leaving, worry about him keeping it together in the playoffs, clutch moments.....Etc. He is a bench player.

Is he ready for prime time? Time will tell.

To think the coach's were holding him back is comical. He is developing due to his hard worked and being coached. He came to learn to play the right way??? We don't know shyt other than the typical gobble-d-gook we read in the papers.

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1/21/2016  10:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2016  10:29 PM
Nalod wrote:Don't worry about Dwill leaving, worry about him keeping it together in the playoffs, clutch moments.....Etc. He is a bench player.

Is he ready for prime time? Time will tell.

To think the coach's were holding him back is comical. He is developing due to his hard worked and being coached. He came to learn to play the right way??? We don't know shyt other than the typical gobble-d-gook we read in the papers.

^^^ You are absolutely right

People shouldn't underestimate those former Thunder coaches on the staff working on Development. Fisher knew who was who on the Thunders staff from first hand experience. So it shouldn't be a surprised guys are actually being developed on the knicks with Fisher as the HC. D-Will might stay just because he's finally in an environment where he is starting to thrive. He was Marvin Williams Status and now he is Evan Turner Status as a player whose finally found his role.

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Nalod
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1/21/2016  10:35 PM
wargames wrote:
Nalod wrote:Don't worry about Dwill leaving, worry about him keeping it together in the playoffs, clutch moments.....Etc. He is a bench player.

Is he ready for prime time? Time will tell.

To think the coach's were holding him back is comical. He is developing due to his hard worked and being coached. He came to learn to play the right way??? We don't know shyt other than the typical gobble-d-gook we read in the papers.

^^^ You are absolutely right

People shouldn't underestimate those former Thunder coaches on the staff working on Development. Fisher knew who was who on the Thunders staff from first hand experience. So it shouldn't be a surprised guys are actually being developed on the knicks with Fisher as the HC. D-Will might stay just because he's finally in an environment where he is starting to thrive. He was Marvin Williams Status and now he is Evan Turner Status as a player whose finally found his role.

There are a lot of coach's on the knicks. I would imagine Phil is also part of the decision making on who evaluating the players, minutes and rotations. And why the hell not!!!!

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1/21/2016  11:29 PM
Nalod wrote:
wargames wrote:
Nalod wrote:Don't worry about Dwill leaving, worry about him keeping it together in the playoffs, clutch moments.....Etc. He is a bench player.

Is he ready for prime time? Time will tell.

To think the coach's were holding him back is comical. He is developing due to his hard worked and being coached. He came to learn to play the right way??? We don't know shyt other than the typical gobble-d-gook we read in the papers.

^^^ You are absolutely right

People shouldn't underestimate those former Thunder coaches on the staff working on Development. Fisher knew who was who on the Thunders staff from first hand experience. So it shouldn't be a surprised guys are actually being developed on the knicks with Fisher as the HC. D-Will might stay just because he's finally in an environment where he is starting to thrive. He was Marvin Williams Status and now he is Evan Turner Status as a player whose finally found his role.

There are a lot of coach's on the knicks. I would imagine Phil is also part of the decision making on who evaluating the players, minutes and rotations. And why the hell not!!!!

I hope ur right Nalod:)))).

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/22/2016  8:33 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
wargames wrote:
Nalod wrote:Don't worry about Dwill leaving, worry about him keeping it together in the playoffs, clutch moments.....Etc. He is a bench player.

Is he ready for prime time? Time will tell.

To think the coach's were holding him back is comical. He is developing due to his hard worked and being coached. He came to learn to play the right way??? We don't know shyt other than the typical gobble-d-gook we read in the papers.

^^^ You are absolutely right

People shouldn't underestimate those former Thunder coaches on the staff working on Development. Fisher knew who was who on the Thunders staff from first hand experience. So it shouldn't be a surprised guys are actually being developed on the knicks with Fisher as the HC. D-Will might stay just because he's finally in an environment where he is starting to thrive. He was Marvin Williams Status and now he is Evan Turner Status as a player whose finally found his role.

There are a lot of coach's on the knicks. I would imagine Phil is also part of the decision making on who evaluating the players, minutes and rotations. And why the hell not!!!!

I hope ur right Nalod:)))).

While I can't be sure, I do know your not.

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1/22/2016  10:16 AM
meloanyk wrote:
fishmike wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
fishmike wrote:17 ppg, 6rebs, 52% FGs

And he's still not a good fundamental rebounder and a pretty bad defender. Two things that can certainly improve.

That being said its possible our biggest offseason move is resigning this guy who at 24 may very well be coming into his own.

He is going to be due for a big pay raise and this is a good problem to have. His scoring is excellent and he's clearly working hard on defense and rebounding even though he not very effective in those areas yet.

When he was in for KP during the OT session two thoughts came to mind... 1) we need to get him the ball, because he needs to be scoring to help us on the floor. check. 2) he needs to impact his game with his athleticism. I think that pogo sequence will all the rebounds that ended with an and-1 was exactly that. check.

Unlike many other slasher types who are athletic freaks DWill is a very good shooter as well and is money from the FT line.

I think if he continues to play like this is market value is 4/$50, or about $12mm a year. While its not a new shiney free agent like Conley or Batum that strikes me as pretty good.

No way that Knicks should risk those $ on a player who still plays in spurts and is fundamentally flawed. 3/$18 would be as far as I would go given what is known and seen up to this point and I even have a hard time with that raise given how uncertain any future projections are

DWill has the best WS/48 on the Knicks. He is very important to this team and his play gets better every month (see crzy's #s he posted). $6mm a year isnt getting it done. You prefer to let him walk than resign him? Who are you saving that money for?
Is your concern he will regress?

Look at the title of the thread " Dwill last five games". How about last five years? Previous teams have seen this act before only to be dissapointed . Erratic talent, still cant shoot threes, defend or rebound much. He isnt a starter but a bench player, very good at times, very mediocre at times. Throw in his questionable decisions on and off the court and you have someone who should not be given any large guarantees in years or money.

so if DWill essentially has a break out season you would not match (counter offer) a $10-$12mm a year deal and would let him walk based on prior history? Am I right in that is your stance?
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Knicks1969
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1/22/2016  10:50 AM
fishmike wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
fishmike wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
fishmike wrote:17 ppg, 6rebs, 52% FGs

And he's still not a good fundamental rebounder and a pretty bad defender. Two things that can certainly improve.

That being said its possible our biggest offseason move is resigning this guy who at 24 may very well be coming into his own.

He is going to be due for a big pay raise and this is a good problem to have. His scoring is excellent and he's clearly working hard on defense and rebounding even though he not very effective in those areas yet.

When he was in for KP during the OT session two thoughts came to mind... 1) we need to get him the ball, because he needs to be scoring to help us on the floor. check. 2) he needs to impact his game with his athleticism. I think that pogo sequence will all the rebounds that ended with an and-1 was exactly that. check.

Unlike many other slasher types who are athletic freaks DWill is a very good shooter as well and is money from the FT line.

I think if he continues to play like this is market value is 4/$50, or about $12mm a year. While its not a new shiney free agent like Conley or Batum that strikes me as pretty good.

No way that Knicks should risk those $ on a player who still plays in spurts and is fundamentally flawed. 3/$18 would be as far as I would go given what is known and seen up to this point and I even have a hard time with that raise given how uncertain any future projections are

DWill has the best WS/48 on the Knicks. He is very important to this team and his play gets better every month (see crzy's #s he posted). $6mm a year isnt getting it done. You prefer to let him walk than resign him? Who are you saving that money for?
Is your concern he will regress?

Look at the title of the thread " Dwill last five games". How about last five years? Previous teams have seen this act before only to be dissapointed . Erratic talent, still cant shoot threes, defend or rebound much. He isnt a starter but a bench player, very good at times, very mediocre at times. Throw in his questionable decisions on and off the court and you have someone who should not be given any large guarantees in years or money.

so if DWill essentially has a break out season you would not match (counter offer) a $10-$12mm a year deal and would let him walk based on prior history? Am I right in that is your stance?

I pray that Williams proves all the doubters wrong. It is time that this franchise invest in developing young talents

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
Dwill's last 5 games

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