Cartman718 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Nalod wrote:I think Knicks1969 has finally gotten it!

It takes time.

How confident are you of this??

He a good dude, but he one of those guys goes on results, not process. I mean since we not accountable we could have traded RoPez low, fired Fisher and of course exiled Jose. But the process of Jose and Melo shaking the rust and others getting to know each and the system is lengthy. Not everyone gets that.

Confident? Naw, first time we lose two in a row he'll have the "feeling" and want Luke Walton here thinking he'll bring that GSW magic with him.

Lol....y'all are so silly. I am more then happy with what I have seen since after the Utah game. Fisher grew as a coach and stopped the experiments. I still have issues with Jose as a starter, mainly because I believe Gallo can do much better. But I would have never been a Fisher hater if the dude was not terrible early on. He now knows Carmelo is our best PG; which I have been stating since the start of the season. He now also knows that Williams is a studd and needs to share the floor with Carmelo and KP; as well as, getting more than the lousy 8 minutes he was getting early on.

disagree completely.
1. jose is the best starting PG on this squad right now
2. he makes the offense click
3. he has no problems being vocal
4. chemistry seems better with him on the floor
5. defense obviously is worse at his position, but do you really see Gallo being a vocal leader on the floor? the guy is a mouse when it comes to barking at Melo.

Knicks1969 wrote:

martin wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Nalod wrote:I think Knicks1969 has finally gotten it!

It takes time.

How confident are you of this??

He a good dude, but he one of those guys goes on results, not process. I mean since we not accountable we could have traded RoPez low, fired Fisher and of course exiled Jose. But the process of Jose and Melo shaking the rust and others getting to know each and the system is lengthy. Not everyone gets that.

Confident? Naw, first time we lose two in a row he'll have the "feeling" and want Luke Walton here thinking he'll bring that GSW magic with him.

Lol....y'all are so silly. I am more then happy with what I have seen since after the Utah game. Fisher grew as a coach and stopped the experiments. I still have issues with Jose as a starter, mainly because I believe Gallo can do much better. But I would have never been a Fisher hater if the dude was not terrible early on. He now knows Carmelo is our best PG; which I have been stating since the start of the season. He now also knows that Williams is a studd and needs to share the floor with Carmelo and KP; as well as, getting more than the lousy 8 minutes he was getting early on.

disagree completely.
1. jose is the best starting PG on this squad right now
2. he makes the offense click
3. he has no problems being vocal
4. chemistry seems better with him on the floor
5. defense obviously is worse at his position, but do you really see Gallo being a vocal leader on the floor? the guy is a mouse when it comes to barking at Melo.

+1

For me Gallo's only plus on Jose is his defense, and I've been down on Gallo's defense recently, just doesn't seem right but I can't articulate it. Same goes for Lance.

OK, Gallo also much better rebounder.

What did happen during the Utah and Philly games? Specifically,once Gallo replaced Calderon in the back court? Suddenly our defense improved drastically. Even Clyde kept on asking to insert Gallo to stop the bleeding. Some of you are really not looking at the games as you should. Just because a dude is vocal does not mean he is better. Gallo does know the triangle. With a much better floor leader in Carmelo, Jose is obsolete

You gotta stop going by SOME games and start going by hoe they've played for the season. Gallo was the mvp of the end of the Utah game but do you know how many games he played in that he wasn't any help at all for us while on the floor?? More than can be counted. I give him the Utah game and a couple more but he really hasn't been that good this year for us. I do think he deserves more chances after the Utah game and think he should be closing out close games for us with his defense but he has a lot to prove before he gets the starting job over Jose as of now.

Andrew wrote:

Paris907 wrote:Why put KP on Haywood. He had 5 fouls and is foul prone. I know Lance was out but Afflalo, Grant, have more than ample speed to have given the foul.

KP wasn't assigned to Haywood...it was a switch on a screen. I'm pretty sure most if not all NBA coaches do not intentionally foul with their team up 3...even Pop.

it use to be that none would foul and now I think that more than half would. Old dogs ...

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Why has Fisher completely abandoned the rotation he had before Melo rolled his ankle? Unreal.

Good question my man. KO is back in the doghouse and Seraphin is once again the main man:::)))

It was so simple.

Take KP out 1st, bring him back in for Lopez before the 1st Q is over (we saw KP go out, but not come back until the 2nd Q).
Bring Lopez back in with KP still out there. So one of KP/Lopez is always out there at Center. Instead he's been playing Seraphin, Amudson and O'Quinn even without a true dedication to any of those 3.

Use Melo at both 4 and 3. Instead today we saw Amudson even get minutes at 4. What the heck was that?

The backcourt is weak, so I won't really argue against any of his rotation there.

I just hate his frontcourt rotations. They minimize the impact Lopez, Porzingis, Melo and Williams will have on the game. It's our biggest strength and his constant shuffling - inserting guys like Amudson/Seraphin in, sitting Porzingis or Lopez way too long is really hurting things. I don't see his reasoning. Is he resting players? Trying to give everyone a chance? I can't say. Either way, I hate he's once again reverted back to his 11-12 man rotation. He's got to get back to playing 8-9 guys. That was working. In an offense like the Tri, and the defensive style we play (constant switching) you can not keep shuffling lineups. Guys need chemistry, cohesion and consistency.

The Fisher who runs a 9 man rotation I like. The coach who runs an 11 man rotation, I want gone next year. I just don't know why he does this again and again. He's seen the results. They're poor.

CrushAlot wrote:^^^I think he really misses Lance. Lance can guard 4 positions and was the first guy off the bench.

Yes, but we saw him revert back to the 11 man rotation before Lance went down.
I sense he thinks that he shouldn't have a fixed rotation and can wing it. I get making adjustments on the fly, that is important.
But the greatness of his mentor - Phil - was that he knew his team's strengths and didn't care what his opponents strengths were, he relied on his own team's. Our team's strength is having someone like Lopez/Porzingis at all times out there to block shots, board, score from one of the weakest positions in the league. You look at the Hornets, they had Jefferson missing. RLO was killing them. Porzingis was also scoring with ease on offense. To not use RLO, or to only use him 20 minutes and give major playing time to Seraphin at C, is criminal from a coaching perspective.

Williams is playing really well, and can play 3 or 4. Even without Thomas, we have one of the best front courts in the league. We can't be playing Seraphin and Amudson and making the talent level drop. We don't have the guards to make up for playing guys like Seraphin and Amudson.

I don't buy the Lance Thomas excuse. He could easily go with Lopez/Porzingis at 5, Porzingis/Williams at 4. If KP is in foul trouble, just use Lopez more. Lopez was signed to a 13M a year contract, is 27 and in his prime and should easily be getting 30-32 minutes a night if need be.

Would like to pick his brain to see what he's thinking with these rotations. I mean it would be a completely different story if we had the guards who could create their own offense at a high enough level where we didn't need the advantages we have up front. You can't play right into the opponents hand by sitting your best big in Porzingis in fear of foul trouble, 6 min into a game, only to watch him come back 8 minutes later to pick up 2 quick fouls anyway (out of rhythm). Sitting Porzingis or Lopez for long stretches is the worst game planning possible for a team like we're built. We're built to play big, and to play off our size/skill advantages up front.

BRIGGS wrote:="newyorker4ever"]

Knicks1969 wrote:

martin wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Nalod wrote:I think Knicks1969 has finally gotten it!

It takes time.

How confident are you of this??

He a good dude, but he one of those guys goes on results, not process. I mean since we not accountable we could have traded RoPez low, fired Fisher and of course exiled Jose. But the process of Jose and Melo shaking the rust and others getting to know each and the system is lengthy. Not everyone gets that.

Confident? Naw, first time we lose two in a row he'll have the "feeling" and want Luke Walton here thinking he'll bring that GSW magic with him.

Lol....y'all are so silly. I am more then happy with what I have seen since after the Utah game. Fisher grew as a coach and stopped the experiments. I still have issues with Jose as a starter, mainly because I believe Gallo can do much better. But I would have never been a Fisher hater if the dude was not terrible early on. He now knows Carmelo is our best PG; which I have been stating since the start of the season. He now also knows that Williams is a studd and needs to share the floor with Carmelo and KP; as well as, getting more than the lousy 8 minutes he was getting early on.

disagree completely.
1. jose is the best starting PG on this squad right now
2. he makes the offense click
3. he has no problems being vocal
4. chemistry seems better with him on the floor
5. defense obviously is worse at his position, but do you really see Gallo being a vocal leader on the floor? the guy is a mouse when it comes to barking at Melo.

+1

For me Gallo's only plus on Jose is his defense, and I've been down on Gallo's defense recently, just doesn't seem right but I can't articulate it. Same goes for Lance.

OK, Gallo also much better rebounder.

What did happen during the Utah and Philly games? Specifically,once Gallo replaced Calderon in the back court? Suddenly our defense improved drastically. Even Clyde kept on asking to insert Gallo to stop the bleeding. Some of you are really not looking at the games as you should. Just because a dude is vocal does not mean he is better. Gallo does know the triangle. With a much better floor leader in Carmelo, Jose is obsolete

You gotta stop going by SOME games and start going by hoe they've played for the season. Gallo was the mvp of the end of the Utah game but do you know how many games he played in that he wasn't any help at all for us while on the floor?? More than can be counted. I give him the Utah game and a couple more but he really hasn't been that good this year for us. I do think he deserves more chances after the Utah game and think he should be closing out close games for us with his defense but he has a lot to prove before he gets the starting job over Jose as of now.

Calderon is a steady pg. That being said does he make others around him better? Does he have the ability to use the dribble to break down the defense? Can he be counted on to make a good play with less than 5 seconds on the shot clock? Can he put pressure on the opposing offensive player? Yes he's steady but the answers to these questions is no.

Agree::))

CrushAlot wrote:^^^I think he really misses Lance. Lance can guard 4 positions and was the first guy off the bench.

Lance was missed, but what about trying something new at PG? Calderon must know something about the coach, because he can't do no wrong::))

knickscity wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:^^^I think he really misses Lance. Lance can guard 4 positions and was the first guy off the bench.

Lance was missed, but what about trying something new at PG? Calderon must know something about the coach, because he can't do no wrong::))

He did, he played Sasha. How about Grant hitting a basket and not going 0-fer every game?

Why is it that most of you always want to jump on the rookie "Grant" when Jose is criticized? I don't view Grant as triangle ready to run the show as he should; it will probably take him an entire season to finally grasp how to run the show. However, Gallo ran it all of last year and SHOULD be very familiar with the sets. I stated in the game thread last night that it takes Sasha about three seconds to bring the ball pass midcourt; and Calderon 6+ seconds before crossing midcourt. Our offense always struggle to get in position when Jose is running it because he is so freaking slow. We always have to rush to shoot, due to poor clock management. We've see. Sasha as a SG, and he has not looked good; how about playing him straight up as a PG as Jose's replacement when he is pure garbage (I.e.: when he is not scoring the ball)?

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Why has Fisher completely abandoned the rotation he had before Melo rolled his ankle? Unreal.

Good question my man. KO is back in the doghouse and Seraphin is once again the main man:::)))