ChuckBuck wrote:Knixkik wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:fishmike wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:crzymdups wrote:Melo creates so much space and takes so much attention off KP. When the Nets played the Knicks at the Garden, they had to put Thad Young, their best defender, on Melo. Melo out? KP gets the other team's best defender and gets no space to operate.Also, I think a lot of people noticed how much the defense suffered without Melo, too.
This is why keeping Melo really helps KP's development. He's not ready to be a #1 option - Melo's pressence immeasurably helps KP's game in all faucets.
Good thread cause people were definitely starting the "this is KP's team" way too early. Without Melo we're back to being a average team.
below average. Cute to see Chuck clinging to his misguided and desperate notions... let me know how that works out for ya.Everyone with a brain and eyes sees what Melo means to KP. Some just cant cope. Its bizarre but not my problem. Looking forward to Saturday.
Stop cleaning Melo's balls. It was like a 1 possesion game with 2 minutes to go.
Say what you want. When people run out of points they revert back to childish jargon. Facts are For many years, Melo has proven he can still get it done on a nightly basis in spite of being the main emphasis of a teams defensive game plan. Still being able to score and allowing others to have more ability to prosper. Perhaps your hate for Melo keeps you from realizing the best thing for your afiniti for KP is to have Melo on the floor. As it will enable KP to shine. And ofcourse let your favorite team win? Many have been thought to have the ability to score if they were the main offenaive player and have gone on to other teams to try, Only to find out it is harder than they thought. KP found out, and even said it himself, it's something he is fond of Melo being able to do. Maybe that's why Melo is a hall of famer. Something KP has a long way to go before we pronounce him as one. But I hope he gets there some day. But you need not look any further than last night DW shined due to being perhaps the 3rd or 4th point of focus on the defensive game plan. KP was obviously the 1st. And you saw how he struggled. And no, it was not because of his legs. Last I checked he is 20 years old. And I am sure it's not an excuse you tend to throw out defending Melo on his slow start this year, in spite of knee surgery. Point is, Melo has been the main focal point for teams for years and has averaged NBA elite stats. Something you can't replace by a first year player that still has a lot to prove.
Ugh. Melo is not Elite status. He's only elite status for the last couple weeks.
KP has done things that only a few 20 years olds have accomplished in a long time. Only Knick since Mark Jackson to win Rookie of the month back to back.
Melo? He's never made 1 single ALL NBA FIRST TEAM or ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM.
Come back to me when Melo makes one then you can put Elite and Melo in the same sentence.
Chuck, we are all wrong in this forum as much as we are right, but you continue to fight a losing battle in regards to Melo. If you are in a hole, just stop digging. KP is an amazing talent, and has superstar potential, but as of right now, Melo is the biggest influence of his young career and it was evident last night what type of team we are without him.
How is it a losing battle? Has Melo made a single ALL NBA FIRST TEAM or ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM in his career yet?
No one seems to want to answer this question for fear of the truth. He's only been playing "the way we've wanted" the last couple weeks.
He has not been on either of those teams. That is YOUR measure of elite. What mine or anyone else's measure is irrelevant. My point is, you have said that KP would be averaging 20 and 10 by this point in the season, Melo would be an afterthought and holding back his development, and trading Melo would be the best for everyone involved. Rather than just accepting (no need to admit) you are wrong on all fronts, you continue to dance around the Melo topic and try to find different ways to justify your thought process. Today, your way of justifying is to tell yourself he is not elite if he hasn't met either of these 2 particular criteria. Whether or not he is elite is irrelevant to this conversation. You should opt out of most Melo-driven conversations because you know you will get hammered by a lot of people. And stop finding excuses. KP didn't have his legs, that's fine, but many people will use the same excuse about Melo to you. And why i am on that point, we said Melo didn't have his legs all of november because he was coming off a major injury, while you were saying it was a product of his declining abilities. You see how this works? Stop digging.