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Nets News: Hollins and King Out
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1/10/2016  9:02 PM
dk7th wrote:
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dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

Three first round picks and the right to swap another. Not sure what second round picks they sent out but I believe there were a couple of those also. That deal buried the Nets.

as i said, this is prokhorov going all in. it's a gambler's mentality. unfortunately for nyets fans the guy is a billionaire and this is pocket change for him.

not a fan of this approach but he is a self-made man and by comparison dolan is pond scum.

Sometimes "Russian oligarch" is another work for "Russian mafia don". I don't know if Prokhorov is _that_ type of "Russian oligarch" but if he is he is likely just as bad as Dolan. Kinda like if Dolan had free reign to deal arms and murder his rivals. Like Donnie Walsh was in that wheelchair cause Dolans goons kneecapped him, etc etc.

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1/10/2016  9:06 PM
dk7th wrote:
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mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

??

how was that either?

i'm good at vibing stuff out in person, not as good online. sorry.

np ... just don't like hollins.

holfresh loved him which says that he must be terrible :-)

i actually lean towards not caring much for hollins either. i just don't like the idea of having to sweep out a coach because of the ineptitude of the gm. i understand it but i think there's something not right about it.

yeah ... I get that and if hollins was a good coach then it would not be fair. I think that perhaps they realized that he is not that good.

He does not have the personally to coach in New York. He is overly sensitive to criticism and that's where Derek Fisher shines. I agree obviously th roster is King and Proko's doing but Hollins didn't help himself. Just a terrible fit. Chalk that one up to King as well. I willing to bet they hire Mark Jackson now. It's a good fit for both. Jax is good coaching a young team that's starting over and building. Any competent GM will see that

jackson's religious foolishness vis a vis homosexuality turned me off in a big way. not too many evangelical christians in positions of influence living in new york.

Exactly if there is one thing I can't stand it's these religious dudes who don't practice what they preach and/or use religion as a pretext to hate on whomever name your group.

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1/10/2016  9:08 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

Three first round picks and the right to swap another. Not sure what second round picks they sent out but I believe there were a couple of those also. That deal buried the Nets.

as i said, this is prokhorov going all in. it's a gambler's mentality. unfortunately for nyets fans the guy is a billionaire and this is pocket change for him.

not a fan of this approach but he is a self-made man and by comparison dolan is pond scum.

Sometimes "Russian oligarch" is another work for "Russian mafia don". I don't know if Prokhorov is _that_ type of "Russian oligarch" but if he is he is likely just as bad as Dolan. Kinda like if Dolan had free reign to deal arms and murder his rivals. Like Donnie Walsh was in that wheelchair cause Dolans goons kneecapped him, etc etc.

definitely something unsavory about prokhorov. but i'll take unsavory over spoiled, infantile, entitled, insecure, clueless drunk 8 days a week.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
Nets News: Hollins and King Out

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