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nyknickzingis
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1/5/2016  11:23 PM
He pretty much took the exact same shots tonight, only made them. Even hit the glass a few times. He's a rookie. One night will make the looks, next night maybe not. The key for him is to keep attacking. I love his ability to get shots off despite virtually getting no plays called. I also liked he got some off the ball put backs again today. But he has a rep for that, and teams don't let him do that as much.

In a year or two, his legs and upper body should be stronger. As will be his understanding of where to pick his spots. I loved how he was able to completely shut down Millsap in the 1st half. Dominated him on both ends. That's what makes this kid special in my eyes. He doesn't just do some Dirk stuff on offense. He then goes on the other end and does it on defense as well. Still got lots to learn as has to get way way way better at using his legs/frame to get guys in box or out of the box. Post up strength work will go a long long way for this kid to get 2-3 extra easy baskets a game (or more fouls drawn).

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1/5/2016  11:27 PM
kid should be dunking most of the time
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/5/2016  11:29 PM
mreinman wrote:kid should be dunking most of the time

No way. Easiest way to block someone is if you know they're always trying to dunk. And he's not 20 year Dwight Howard. He's not that athletic. He's more like a combination of Kirilenko/more athletic Dirk than someone who can or should be dunking on every possession.
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1/5/2016  11:30 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
mreinman wrote:kid should be dunking most of the time

No way. Easiest way to block someone is if you know they're always trying to dunk. And he's not 20 year Dwight Howard. He's not that athletic. He's more like a combination of Kirilenko/more athletic Dirk than someone who can or should be dunking on every possession.

dude is 7 3. Throw the sh1t down and stop with all this finesse crap.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/5/2016  11:43 PM
mreinman wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
mreinman wrote:kid should be dunking most of the time

No way. Easiest way to block someone is if you know they're always trying to dunk. And he's not 20 year Dwight Howard. He's not that athletic. He's more like a combination of Kirilenko/more athletic Dirk than someone who can or should be dunking on every possession.

dude is 7 3. Throw the sh1t down and stop with all this finesse crap.

I think he will get more aggressive as he looked at the start of the game on offensive boards. When he gets stronger I can see him posterizing people all the time.

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1/5/2016  11:49 PM
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
mreinman wrote:kid should be dunking most of the time

No way. Easiest way to block someone is if you know they're always trying to dunk. And he's not 20 year Dwight Howard. He's not that athletic. He's more like a combination of Kirilenko/more athletic Dirk than someone who can or should be dunking on every possession.

dude is 7 3. Throw the sh1t down and stop with all this finesse crap.

I think he will get more aggressive as he looked at the start of the game on offensive boards. When he gets stronger I can see him posterizing people all the time.

nix, you know i'm kidding

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/5/2016  11:52 PM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
mreinman wrote:kid should be dunking most of the time

No way. Easiest way to block someone is if you know they're always trying to dunk. And he's not 20 year Dwight Howard. He's not that athletic. He's more like a combination of Kirilenko/more athletic Dirk than someone who can or should be dunking on every possession.

dude is 7 3. Throw the sh1t down and stop with all this finesse crap.

I think he will get more aggressive as he looked at the start of the game on offensive boards. When he gets stronger I can see him posterizing people all the time.

nix, you know i'm kidding

I can be very literal and humorless at times. I don't always get it.

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1/6/2016  12:07 AM
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
mreinman wrote:kid should be dunking most of the time

No way. Easiest way to block someone is if you know they're always trying to dunk. And he's not 20 year Dwight Howard. He's not that athletic. He's more like a combination of Kirilenko/more athletic Dirk than someone who can or should be dunking on every possession.

dude is 7 3. Throw the sh1t down and stop with all this finesse crap.

I think he will get more aggressive as he looked at the start of the game on offensive boards. When he gets stronger I can see him posterizing people all the time.

nix, you know i'm kidding

I can be very literal and humorless at times. I don't always get it.

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1/6/2016  12:15 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
mreinman wrote:kid should be dunking most of the time

No way. Easiest way to block someone is if you know they're always trying to dunk. And he's not 20 year Dwight Howard. He's not that athletic. He's more like a combination of Kirilenko/more athletic Dirk than someone who can or should be dunking on every possession.

dude is 7 3. Throw the sh1t down and stop with all this finesse crap.

I think he will get more aggressive as he looked at the start of the game on offensive boards. When he gets stronger I can see him posterizing people all the time.

nix, you know i'm kidding

I can be very literal and humorless at times. I don't always get it.

"Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I will catch it."

EXACTLY! LOL I can be exactly like him.

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1/6/2016  12:53 AM
Tonight was game 36 for KP. You can see his shot selection improving almost every game. He made some great moves tonight.
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1/6/2016  1:26 AM
crzymdups wrote:Tonight was game 36 for KP. You can see his shot selection improving almost every game. He made some great moves tonight.

KP looked much more sure of what he wanted to do. He got the ball and would put it on the floor and get some space to get off his shot. He was really confident in catch and shoot. He just looked like he was clear on how he wanted to attack.
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1/6/2016  8:27 AM
KP is a work in progress. Micro-analyzing every shot he takes is stupid. He's an incredibly versatile player. He has the athleticism to score inside and the touch to hit from outside while rebounding well and playing good d. He's in the process of developing all the facets to his game. He will be a top ten player in this league - maybe as soon as next season.
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1/6/2016  9:06 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Bobby Portis looked like a much superior player. He took good open shots both in and out was more active and physical than KP. He looked liked the 4 pick and KP looked like the 20th pick. Seriously KP is playing like he is in between positions and has no discipline in shot selection and this must change.
His FG% is headed under 40% at this rate--hes at 41 change now.

LOL Bobby Portis , So would u rather have Bobby Portis over KP

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1/6/2016  9:22 AM
Rooks gonna rook. KP didn't have the benefit of Farm to NBA table system like Duke or Kentucky that Okafor and Towns had.

Sure the ACB was a Spanish pro league, but it's international play and different style of ball.

Once KP gets a few goto moves in the off season, his percentage will soar. Not worried about his shot selection at all.

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1/6/2016  9:27 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Bobby Portis looked like a much superior player. He took good open shots both in and out was more active and physical than KP. He looked liked the 4 pick and KP looked like the 20th pick. Seriously KP is playing like he is in between positions and has no discipline in shot selection and this must change.
His FG% is headed under 40% at this rate--hes at 41 change now.

LOL Bobby Portis , So would u rather have Bobby Portis over KP

It would've been nice to have Portis at 19 but I wouldn't trade kp for Lebron James. My comments on kp are always motivational

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1/6/2016  9:36 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:Rooks gonna rook. KP didn't have the benefit of Farm to NBA table system like Duke or Kentucky that Okafor and Towns had.

Sure the ACB was a Spanish pro league, but it's international play and different style of ball.

Once KP gets a few goto moves in the off season, his percentage will soar. Not worried about his shot selection at all.


Yep, as I've said a few times about KP, his niche and moves are not defined yet. He has an array of different things he can do, but there's no one particular aspect of part of the floor he's gotten extremely comfortable in. The easiest play that is available for him is the screen and pop, outside. He runs that play very well. His jumper isn't always on, but it's a play that is smoothly ran and he looks very comfortable. The rest of his plays has been up and down, dependent on his rhythm. He has shown great post moves, then poor plays inside as well. Off the dribble he has made some sweet plays, but also gotten the ball slapped away many times. Just many things he's shown he can do but not yet at that peak level. He's going to have to figure out where he's going to be his best against each match up and defense. And get stronger physically. This takes a few years. However as a rookie to be doing this is pretty incredible considering his game is more raw than Towns, Okafor or Russ. Yet he's producing on par with elite NCAA talent like Towns/Okafor. That says about his talent level.
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1/6/2016  9:39 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Bobby Portis looked like a much superior player. He took good open shots both in and out was more active and physical than KP. He looked liked the 4 pick and KP looked like the 20th pick. Seriously KP is playing like he is in between positions and has no discipline in shot selection and this must change.
His FG% is headed under 40% at this rate--hes at 41 change now.

LOL Bobby Portis , So would u rather have Bobby Portis over KP

It would've been nice to have Portis at 19 but I wouldn't trade kp for Lebron James. My comments on kp are always motivational


Portis looks real good. Would have loved to grab him but I think we also really, really need a point guard. Grant is someone that could give us something this team badly needs - some dribble penetration from the guard spot. On defense, he's also got significant potential. I'd give Grant a year more to show what he can do. The Tri is the hardest offense for a rookie PG who can't shoot to come and fit in with.
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1/6/2016  10:50 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Bobby Portis looked like a much superior player. He took good open shots both in and out was more active and physical than KP. He looked liked the 4 pick and KP looked like the 20th pick. Seriously KP is playing like he is in between positions and has no discipline in shot selection and this must change.
His FG% is headed under 40% at this rate--hes at 41 change now.

LOL Bobby Portis , So would u rather have Bobby Portis over KP

It would've been nice to have Portis at 19 but I wouldn't trade kp for Lebron James. My comments on kp are always motivational


Portis looks real good. Would have loved to grab him but I think we also really, really need a point guard. Grant is someone that could give us something this team badly needs - some dribble penetration from the guard spot. On defense, he's also got significant potential. I'd give Grant a year more to show what he can do. The Tri is the hardest offense for a rookie PG who can't shoot to come and fit in with.

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1/6/2016  11:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2016  11:36 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Rooks gonna rook. KP didn't have the benefit of Farm to NBA table system like Duke or Kentucky that Okafor and Towns had.

Sure the ACB was a Spanish pro league, but it's international play and different style of ball.

Once KP gets a few goto moves in the off season, his percentage will soar. Not worried about his shot selection at all.


Yep, as I've said a few times about KP, his niche and moves are not defined yet. He has an array of different things he can do, but there's no one particular aspect of part of the floor he's gotten extremely comfortable in. The easiest play that is available for him is the screen and pop, outside. He runs that play very well. His jumper isn't always on, but it's a play that is smoothly ran and he looks very comfortable. The rest of his plays has been up and down, dependent on his rhythm. He has shown great post moves, then poor plays inside as well. Off the dribble he has made some sweet plays, but also gotten the ball slapped away many times. Just many things he's shown he can do but not yet at that peak level. He's going to have to figure out where he's going to be his best against each match up and defense. And get stronger physically. This takes a few years. However as a rookie to be doing this is pretty incredible considering his game is more raw than Towns, Okafor or Russ. Yet he's producing on par with elite NCAA talent like Towns/Okafor. That says about his talent level.

KP almost has too many moves he can go to or is working on. Don't know if we've seen him do the same move on consecutive shots.

People outside of NY probably think of his two handed put-back offensive rebound dunks when they hear his name. Not sure anyone thinks of a particular signature shot if they do think of him.

He's done that spin jumper of his a few times, and you see more running hooks, but he needs around 4/5 go to signature shots that become automatic for him.

Will be very interesting to see what basketball moves he works on in the off-season.

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1/6/2016  11:43 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Rooks gonna rook. KP didn't have the benefit of Farm to NBA table system like Duke or Kentucky that Okafor and Towns had.

Sure the ACB was a Spanish pro league, but it's international play and different style of ball.

Once KP gets a few goto moves in the off season, his percentage will soar. Not worried about his shot selection at all.


Yep, as I've said a few times about KP, his niche and moves are not defined yet. He has an array of different things he can do, but there's no one particular aspect of part of the floor he's gotten extremely comfortable in. The easiest play that is available for him is the screen and pop, outside. He runs that play very well. His jumper isn't always on, but it's a play that is smoothly ran and he looks very comfortable. The rest of his plays has been up and down, dependent on his rhythm. He has shown great post moves, then poor plays inside as well. Off the dribble he has made some sweet plays, but also gotten the ball slapped away many times. Just many things he's shown he can do but not yet at that peak level. He's going to have to figure out where he's going to be his best against each match up and defense. And get stronger physically. This takes a few years. However as a rookie to be doing this is pretty incredible considering his game is more raw than Towns, Okafor or Russ. Yet he's producing on par with elite NCAA talent like Towns/Okafor. That says about his talent level.

KP almost has too many moves he can go to or is working on. Don't know if we've seen him do the same move on consecutive shots.

People outside of NY probably think of his two handed put-back offensive rebound dunks when they hear his name. Not sure anyone thinks of a particular signature shot if they do think of him.

He's done that spin jumper of his a few times, and you see more running hooks, but he needs around 4/5 go to signature shots that become automatic for him.

Will be very interesting to see what basketball moves he works on in the off-season.

Agree whole heartedly. Just needs an off-season of work and polish really. The raw talent is there, it's almost like Neo in the Matrix for the first time. He doesn't know he can stop bullets in real-time yet and that he can actually fly at the end.

Basically KP is Rey in the Force Awakens. He needs to be SkyWalkered in the offseason. Best case scenario is someone passes KP Hakeem's cell phone # for a nice summer session.

KP's shot selection is really hurting his game

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