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12/21/2015  11:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2015  11:08 PM
KP 2-18 in his last 4 games from 3. And hes not close--I mean hes way off. Bricks

He should learn to use the backboard--stay with a mid range game and concentrate on rebounding. Terrible 7-3 man with long arms getting caught out on 3 point line when he could be grabbing Offensive rebounds(which has been porous) 12-14 footers use of backboard opportunistic baskets cutting inside more post and shoot dribble pass. Just get off that F 3 point line. Can you imagine him getting nice post position and taking 6-8 footers with his touch? The three point line for him is a sin.

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12/21/2015  11:12 PM
would be nice if we can make this moronic repetition about a rookie that is playing way over his expectations a sticky
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/22/2015  7:26 AM
mreinman wrote:would be nice if we can make this moronic repetition about a rookie that is playing way over his expectations a sticky

You don't care if he has bad shot selection since he's a rookie? I want him to be developing good habits.

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12/22/2015  8:00 AM
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mreinman wrote:would be nice if we can make this moronic repetition about a rookie that is playing way over his expectations a sticky

You don't care if he has bad shot selection since he's a rookie? I want him to be developing good habits.

His shot selection is terrible at this point. If he needs to come off the bench and start with INSIDE out play than so be it. Hes got some good game fundamentals but his positioning shot selection and post game need to be addressed.

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12/22/2015  8:49 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:and someone has to remind him what a good shot is--how tall he is etc..

Yes, we know. Hook shots and mid range jumpers only.

Karl Towns knows what a good shot is. Evene when he took his 3's they were wide open straight away. KP likes to take catch and shoot off balanced side angled threes from 30 feet. How about a few tight post ups--go get fouled etc.....!

Towns went to NBA finishing school in Kentucky for a year. Calipari schools his stars well in how to get to their spots in the league.

KP is adapting to an entirely new brand of bball. I think he'll figure it out eventually.

KP is shooting 3's at over 35% which is off the charts for a rookie big/giant. How about will let KP be KP and let the game come to him? When he gets stronger he will develop an inside game to go with his sweet stretch game.

Thank heaven that briggs is not coaching him.

Towns shot wide open 3s because Rolo dared him to shoot. KP doesn't get wide open 3s because everybody knows his best offensive skill right now is that sweet stroke. I think he can slow his timing down a bit, on those deep 3's because nobody is tall enough to block it from out there. Thats going to be his homework over the summer.....shooting contested jumpers.

I do agree he needs a little schooling from Mckale and the Dream....learn how to post up and hold his man on his hip. But that will come with strength.

Man, if Briggs was ever a coach, he would have his team shooting all layups and hook shots. The paint would be crowded....and everybody would be scare to shoot open 3's. If it was up to Briggs, he would remove the 3pt line.....and bring back bell bottom pants with butter fly collars. Don't forget the nut hanging short shorts......

Im more of a believer that guards should spread the floor. I like the 3 pt shot. Id put high focus on the draft and free agency in how we can improve spreading the floor with guys who can handle shoot the three and drive.. Im NOT a fan of KP taking 3's I dont mind if he takes 1-2 like Towns does--but he should really focus his game 14 feet and in. Id like him to dunk a few balls a game. Hes 7-3 with a 7-8 wingspan. Go in there and get contact with an 85% FT/ When you are shooting from 30 feet you are not 7-3 you are 6 feet. How many 3's does Tim Duncan take?

I agree with you. If he has an open shot in his sweet spot take it, but other than that bring it inside.He is to big to tall not to use that advantage

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12/22/2015  3:59 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:would be nice if we can make this moronic repetition about a rookie that is playing way over his expectations a sticky

You don't care if he has bad shot selection since he's a rookie? I want him to be developing good habits.

he can't develop a good shot selection if he does not take some bad shots.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/22/2015  4:17 PM
Point is well made. Yes we all like KP but his tendancy to float to three point line has to be addressed. The worry after the pick is that he was going to be another European big that thinks he is a 3pt shooting guard (Ie. Bargnani like). The excuse that he is too small to play inside makes no sense. He has a good ability to draw fouls and can shoot over anyone with a basic turn around. In terms of long term goals, He is in the gym to get bigger meaning his ultimate goal is to be a force inside and out. Then why not work on his inside game. Regardless of success. Whether it's something he has to focus more on or whether the focus has to made by staff, this type of player, as has been stated by many, is an athletic big with a vast skill set. A description that does not match a player hovering at the 3pt line. And btw, some have mentioned that the triangle and other players posting have forced him to stay beyond the 3pt. line. That's just an excuse. There where several times he floated to three during drives or double teams on other players. Again, something he and the staff need to emphasize not to do. He should be slashing to basket and hovering within 20ft. So that his athleticism, short range accuracy and excellent offensive rebounding can help this team win and more importantly, make him grow into something other than another soft 3pt shooting big man. I know no one wants to see that happen to him.
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12/22/2015  4:23 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Point is well made. Yes we all like KP but his tendancy to float to three point line has to be addressed. The worry after the pick is that he was going to be another European big that thinks he is a 3pt shooting guard (Ie. Bargnani like). The excuse that he is too small to play inside makes no sense. He has a good ability to draw fouls and can shoot over anyone with a basic turn around. In terms of long term goals, He is in the gym to get bigger meaning his ultimate goal is to be a force inside and out. Then why not work on his inside game. Regardless of success. Whether it's something he has to focus more on or whether the focus has to made by staff, this type of player, as has been stated by many, is an athletic big with a vast skill set. A description that does not match a player hovering at the 3pt line. And btw, some have mentioned that the triangle and other players posting have forced him to stay beyond the 3pt. line. That's just an excuse. There where several times he floated to three during drives or double teams on other players. Again, something he and the staff need to emphasize not to do. He should be slashing to basket and hovering within 20ft. So that his athleticism, short range accuracy and excellent offensive rebounding can help this team win and more importantly, make him grow into something other than another soft 3pt shooting big man. I know no one wants to see that happen to him.

him hovering around 20 feet when his teammates are making a move will just hurt everyone.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/22/2015  7:06 PM
mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Point is well made. Yes we all like KP but his tendancy to float to three point line has to be addressed. The worry after the pick is that he was going to be another European big that thinks he is a 3pt shooting guard (Ie. Bargnani like). The excuse that he is too small to play inside makes no sense. He has a good ability to draw fouls and can shoot over anyone with a basic turn around. In terms of long term goals, He is in the gym to get bigger meaning his ultimate goal is to be a force inside and out. Then why not work on his inside game. Regardless of success. Whether it's something he has to focus more on or whether the focus has to made by staff, this type of player, as has been stated by many, is an athletic big with a vast skill set. A description that does not match a player hovering at the 3pt line. And btw, some have mentioned that the triangle and other players posting have forced him to stay beyond the 3pt. line. That's just an excuse. There where several times he floated to three during drives or double teams on other players. Again, something he and the staff need to emphasize not to do. He should be slashing to basket and hovering within 20ft. So that his athleticism, short range accuracy and excellent offensive rebounding can help this team win and more importantly, make him grow into something other than another soft 3pt shooting big man. I know no one wants to see that happen to him.

him hovering around 20 feet when his teammates are making a move will just hurt everyone.


It's a small sample but he's actually getting better value out of his long 2s than his 3s right now. He shouldn't be shooting from either distance unless he's open though.
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12/22/2015  7:16 PM
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mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Point is well made. Yes we all like KP but his tendancy to float to three point line has to be addressed. The worry after the pick is that he was going to be another European big that thinks he is a 3pt shooting guard (Ie. Bargnani like). The excuse that he is too small to play inside makes no sense. He has a good ability to draw fouls and can shoot over anyone with a basic turn around. In terms of long term goals, He is in the gym to get bigger meaning his ultimate goal is to be a force inside and out. Then why not work on his inside game. Regardless of success. Whether it's something he has to focus more on or whether the focus has to made by staff, this type of player, as has been stated by many, is an athletic big with a vast skill set. A description that does not match a player hovering at the 3pt line. And btw, some have mentioned that the triangle and other players posting have forced him to stay beyond the 3pt. line. That's just an excuse. There where several times he floated to three during drives or double teams on other players. Again, something he and the staff need to emphasize not to do. He should be slashing to basket and hovering within 20ft. So that his athleticism, short range accuracy and excellent offensive rebounding can help this team win and more importantly, make him grow into something other than another soft 3pt shooting big man. I know no one wants to see that happen to him.

him hovering around 20 feet when his teammates are making a move will just hurt everyone.


It's a small sample but he's actually getting better value out of his long 2s than his 3s right now. He shouldn't be shooting from either distance unless he's open though.

that I agree with. Some of his shots look rushed or hesitant. He needs experience and confidence. HE's a damn kid which everyone seems to forget.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/23/2015  12:13 AM
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HofstraBBall wrote:Point is well made. Yes we all like KP but his tendancy to float to three point line has to be addressed. The worry after the pick is that he was going to be another European big that thinks he is a 3pt shooting guard (Ie. Bargnani like). The excuse that he is too small to play inside makes no sense. He has a good ability to draw fouls and can shoot over anyone with a basic turn around. In terms of long term goals, He is in the gym to get bigger meaning his ultimate goal is to be a force inside and out. Then why not work on his inside game. Regardless of success. Whether it's something he has to focus more on or whether the focus has to made by staff, this type of player, as has been stated by many, is an athletic big with a vast skill set. A description that does not match a player hovering at the 3pt line. And btw, some have mentioned that the triangle and other players posting have forced him to stay beyond the 3pt. line. That's just an excuse. There where several times he floated to three during drives or double teams on other players. Again, something he and the staff need to emphasize not to do. He should be slashing to basket and hovering within 20ft. So that his athleticism, short range accuracy and excellent offensive rebounding can help this team win and more importantly, make him grow into something other than another soft 3pt shooting big man. I know no one wants to see that happen to him.

him hovering around 20 feet when his teammates are making a move will just hurt everyone.

Hovering around 20 feet still allows other players to make moves without bringing his man to the play as a help defender. It also allows him to cut to basket or take a few steps in to receive a pass for a short jumpshot. But more importantly, gets him in a better position to contest for offensive rebounds. And your right, he is a kid, and should be pushed to play the proper way for his size, position and long term optimum playing style. Or like I said, we will have just another European big man who plays outside and takes too many threes.

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mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Point is well made. Yes we all like KP but his tendancy to float to three point line has to be addressed. The worry after the pick is that he was going to be another European big that thinks he is a 3pt shooting guard (Ie. Bargnani like). The excuse that he is too small to play inside makes no sense. He has a good ability to draw fouls and can shoot over anyone with a basic turn around. In terms of long term goals, He is in the gym to get bigger meaning his ultimate goal is to be a force inside and out. Then why not work on his inside game. Regardless of success. Whether it's something he has to focus more on or whether the focus has to made by staff, this type of player, as has been stated by many, is an athletic big with a vast skill set. A description that does not match a player hovering at the 3pt line. And btw, some have mentioned that the triangle and other players posting have forced him to stay beyond the 3pt. line. That's just an excuse. There where several times he floated to three during drives or double teams on other players. Again, something he and the staff need to emphasize not to do. He should be slashing to basket and hovering within 20ft. So that his athleticism, short range accuracy and excellent offensive rebounding can help this team win and more importantly, make him grow into something other than another soft 3pt shooting big man. I know no one wants to see that happen to him.

him hovering around 20 feet when his teammates are making a move will just hurt everyone.


It's a small sample but he's actually getting better value out of his long 2s than his 3s right now. He shouldn't be shooting from either distance unless he's open though.

The long 2 is the worst shot in the game. A guy who is 7-3 needs to learn all variations of post play first. This is how we make a championship team.

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12/23/2015  1:37 AM
mreinman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Point is well made. Yes we all like KP but his tendancy to float to three point line has to be addressed. The worry after the pick is that he was going to be another European big that thinks he is a 3pt shooting guard (Ie. Bargnani like). The excuse that he is too small to play inside makes no sense. He has a good ability to draw fouls and can shoot over anyone with a basic turn around. In terms of long term goals, He is in the gym to get bigger meaning his ultimate goal is to be a force inside and out. Then why not work on his inside game. Regardless of success. Whether it's something he has to focus more on or whether the focus has to made by staff, this type of player, as has been stated by many, is an athletic big with a vast skill set. A description that does not match a player hovering at the 3pt line. And btw, some have mentioned that the triangle and other players posting have forced him to stay beyond the 3pt. line. That's just an excuse. There where several times he floated to three during drives or double teams on other players. Again, something he and the staff need to emphasize not to do. He should be slashing to basket and hovering within 20ft. So that his athleticism, short range accuracy and excellent offensive rebounding can help this team win and more importantly, make him grow into something other than another soft 3pt shooting big man. I know no one wants to see that happen to him.

him hovering around 20 feet when his teammates are making a move will just hurt everyone.


It's a small sample but he's actually getting better value out of his long 2s than his 3s right now. He shouldn't be shooting from either distance unless he's open though.

that I agree with. Some of his shots look rushed or hesitant. He needs experience and confidence. HE's a damn kid which everyone seems to forget.

I agree about him being a kid. I hope posters stop posting that he knows what to do in game situations better than vets. That gets annoying. I just want to enjoy his development without using it to trash guys that are much more experienced than he is.
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12/23/2015  7:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/23/2015  7:38 AM
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mreinman wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Point is well made. Yes we all like KP but his tendancy to float to three point line has to be addressed. The worry after the pick is that he was going to be another European big that thinks he is a 3pt shooting guard (Ie. Bargnani like). The excuse that he is too small to play inside makes no sense. He has a good ability to draw fouls and can shoot over anyone with a basic turn around. In terms of long term goals, He is in the gym to get bigger meaning his ultimate goal is to be a force inside and out. Then why not work on his inside game. Regardless of success. Whether it's something he has to focus more on or whether the focus has to made by staff, this type of player, as has been stated by many, is an athletic big with a vast skill set. A description that does not match a player hovering at the 3pt line. And btw, some have mentioned that the triangle and other players posting have forced him to stay beyond the 3pt. line. That's just an excuse. There where several times he floated to three during drives or double teams on other players. Again, something he and the staff need to emphasize not to do. He should be slashing to basket and hovering within 20ft. So that his athleticism, short range accuracy and excellent offensive rebounding can help this team win and more importantly, make him grow into something other than another soft 3pt shooting big man. I know no one wants to see that happen to him.

him hovering around 20 feet when his teammates are making a move will just hurt everyone.


It's a small sample but he's actually getting better value out of his long 2s than his 3s right now. He shouldn't be shooting from either distance unless he's open though.

The long 2 is the worst shot in the game. A guy who is 7-3 needs to learn all variations of post play first. This is how we make a championship team.


For about 995 out of 1000 players, yes, that's the worst shot. Right now he's hitting 52% of those long 2s, though. Then when he steps behind the 3 point line, the shooting plummets. Right now, 3 point shots and anywhere from 3 to 16 feet are bad shots for him. He's shooting well only from long 2 and from right under the rim. But there's a high chance that all these stats will normalize with larger samples and the 3 will be better value than the long 2 for him. I suspect 3 to 16 feet will still be low percentage shots for him, and he'll do most of his damage either under the rim or from long distance (open 3s and open long 2s).
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