nixluva wrote:There's nothing about the offense that forces Melo to take the shots he's taking. If he wants to score in other ways in this offense they are FULLY open to him. He can have his teammates set a down screen for him to get a catch and shoot, work off curls, PnR etc. There's just no end to the options any player has in this offense. I'm tired of people talking about this as if there are hard and fast rules on how a player has to score in this offense. That's not how it works. By now as teammates they should be adding to the offense on their own. It's not like Fish is calling every set like he's JVG. The Triangle isn't that kind of offense. Players are supposed to observe what the defense is doing and know what to do in order to use that against them and beat that defense. This part takes time.At any time any player who has the ball and the desire to run a certain action can call for it from his teammates. The guards are the ones that make the initial decision on which actions the team will get into. If Jerian wants a Drag Screen set he can signal for it at any time. Yes there are certain Automatics based on what the defense does, but there is tons of freedom to do things differently. When bringing the ball up court the guards can instruct the rest of the team as to what they want to do and Melo has that same kind of Green Light. KOQ might not be able to make that kind of decision but the guards and Melo in particular do have that kind of freedom. Problem is that they aren't always making the right decisions.[/
The biggest factor is the limitations on some of our players actual skills and habits. Jose COULD do a lot more than he actually does. That's 100% on Jose. It's not any limitation on the offense. So Melo can't claim to be unhappy with his role in this system. Melo quite often breaks plays and calls his own number. He literally can do whatever he wants. If he's failing or struggling it's 100% on him. He can simply chose to do some different things rather than bang his head on the wall doing the same things that aren't working for him. Personally I don't believe he feels it's the offense that is the problem but rather he's just missing shots and sometimes he's forcing shots rather than playing smart and passing the ball to an open teammate.
ya know, i agree with everything you said, but in regards to the coaching staff. There's no reason on for calderon to be a limited player, that's on the coaches(like film room one on one breaking down his flaws). He's the first one down court with the ball almost every time, in a lot of cases he can get by his (back peddling) man for a lay up or a foul. But what he does is pull up and wait for his teammates to all get in place (if they can figure out where the fck their suppose to be) so they can run the triangle, that leads to another mid range shot, not to mention the defense is set. Calderon has started and finish a fast break O times this season. Thats bad coaching.
Despite the many options the triangle has, it's also a very passive system, it's a quick thinking system, and with limited skill players, and limited practice time, you can not run that sht 80% of the game and only getting it right 50% of the time, which is why we only play 2 qtrs good most games, and were a close to 500. team
The shooting % is down for almost every individual player on the team just like last season roster. The system is limiting the players, and the players are limiting the system. It's like do we have a plan B during times when plan A is failing miserably.
If melo didn't ISO and bully his way to the basket sometimes, we have even less FTA. This system turns players into jump shooters, and AA said it in a interview the other day HE said "[b]I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH THE MID RANGE SHOT, AND YOU ENDED UP NEVER TAKING FT, AND I NEED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE SO I CAN SHOW THE YOUNGER GUYS
Is this on the player or the coaching staff?