blkexec wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:The problem with our O - and this includes when Seraphin is in there - is that in the Triangle post up play is not meant to be there just for the post up player to take the shot or make a post up move. The post ups are one of the least effective plays in the NBA right now. Yet we dump it in a lot, which is a good thing IF our post players are either good in there (Such as Melo, Afflalo maybe Seraphin) OR they should look to move the ball to a cutter or someone open with the motion. Lopez's role is to get the post position, but not necessarily take the shot in there. He's not been bad. He really hasn't. It's been what his role asks of him. He's not a great scorer, more like adequate.
Mainly I want to see this team get better movement off the ball when the ball is dumped in. It seems too many times we dump the ball inside, only to watch as the post player goes to work. If that's what we want to do, then those plays need to be for Melo/Afflalo and not Lopez. From my understanding of the Triangle though, that's not the only option. To dump in in there, it isn't to watch the post up iso every time as if Shaq or MJ are going to work. There's lots of options, but this team's execution of the Triangle is still very very subpar at best. I think it takes up to a year or two before a team really becomes good at running the Tri. With all the overhaul, there's many new faces, and I think it'll take time before they get on the same page.
I do agree that on most nights Porzingis/Melo should close at 5/4. I just don't agree that Lopez shouldn't start. He's been solid and a key cog in the improved Knicks D.
They dump it to Rolo....and Rolo looks to pass. The problem is there's nobody to pass it to, because Rolo's man is playing off of him, forcing Rolo to score. Thats everybodies strategy against our starting 5. Let the offense run through Role by backing off of him and letting him score. We don't have quick players on offense who can simple get free that quick for an easy pass. And Rolo's reaction on his passes are slow. Thats why it doesn't work.
If Seraphin was in the post, you have to guard him. That means there are more passing lanes.....Same with Melo, KP and AA, when they are in the post.
Rolo should be on the second unit with Grant, running the high pick and roll.
This is true but remember that the Knicks don't have to keep running RoLo in the Post. There are SO MANY permutations of this offense that people haven't even seen and that's on the players. When they get out there they sometimes have a bit of a brain lock which is to be expected until the guards and wings learn and fully understand how to exploit the defense. If you're a guard and you have the ball on the move your main goal is to either score it or draw the D so you can dish to an open teammate.
This system is so old that there is nearly an answer for anything that a defense can throw at you. It only takes your players to recognize where the defensive weakness is and exploit it. They say it's a read and react system but in truth it's up to the players to trick the defense into defending what they think the Knicks want to do and using that against them. This doesn't happen enough.
The Knicks so far have been FAR too predictable in how they attack teams. This makes them easier to shut down. RoLo is an excellent roll man and really doesn't have to be in the post so much. That's something our guards need to take more advantage of. Call for the screen and RoLo will come out and set it and the other players know what to do when they call for a drag screen. You literally NEVER have to use the Strong Side Triangle if you don't want to. Use it for the spacing but then go away from it and the defense will have to guess what you're trying to do.
One thing I like is when Melo uses a V Cut to get an open shot, rather then cut all the way thru. Others need to learn to use that action in the Triangle. It's in the playbook for a reason. Defenders know that our wings will cut thru after feeding the post, so you aren't supposed to just clear thru every time if you feed RoLo, use the damned V cut if the defender anticipates you cutting thru!!!
