nyk4ever wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:Do you think anyone even has any idea of what you think or what opinions you have that makes you memorable - good or bad? No ... not really.

I believe NBA seasons are 82 games, not 1 or 2.

I know NBA seasons have peaks and valleys and curves.

You don't run and regurgitate your pet fixation after every loss without looking like you don't understand the game of basketball, is what I think.

Write it down, if you like.

hey man, im just curious... have you posted here before under a different moniker? you bring a good deal of knowledge, it's good to see in comparison to a lot of the other newcomers (no disrespect) that have come in.

I might have years ago… if I did, I forgot the ID, password and email account :-)

haha fair enough - either way, glad to see you posting.

I am sure that you would love him if he did not like melo

I like posters who post any interesting argument and who have open minds regarding everything. Party liners and hyper defenders are so 1980's.

I respect posters like Bonn1997 who seems to read every post with an open mind. We need a lot more like him and I wish that he posted more. There are a number of good posters who seem to be objective but way too many who are still too blinded by their position (on both sides).

I can say that posters seem to be moving more towards the middle then before. Pure knicks love is good but unbiased knicks love is better.

franco12 wrote:I might bench Lopez and start O'Quinn. Honestly, some of the moves lately are head scratchers. I know you can't give everyone minutes, but we need scoring, and Williams gives you that, Lopez has vanished while O'Quinn who looked rugged has been banished. Urgent Memo to Derek Fisher: We do not possess our draft pick this year. Stop trying to lose!

Precisely why I vehemently dislike this dude. KO in my opinion is not a PF; he is a center. He needs to see the floor next to KP and Carmelo. He always look to pass as a big and that is important in the triangle. Seraphin is not a triangle player. He unlike KO is a PF, and should be played strictly as such.

mreinman wrote:I am sure that you would love him if he did not like melo

Maybe he doesn't respond to two-party politics like you're demonstrated.

I like Melo just fine, but he's having a so-far sub-par 2015-16, could very well be in decline and if he waives his NTC, I'm more than open to deals that make sense. But I have no reason to believe he'd do that and every reason to believe anyone who does is indulging in wishful thinking, as you have so effectively demonstrated.

Melo is a very good, flawed player with a lot of mileage on his tires. That you've assumed me to hold any position other than the one I really hold is just proof that you don't actually practice what you claim to admire in others.

mreinman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:Do you think anyone even has any idea of what you think or what opinions you have that makes you memorable - good or bad? No ... not really.

I believe NBA seasons are 82 games, not 1 or 2.

I know NBA seasons have peaks and valleys and curves.

You don't run and regurgitate your pet fixation after every loss without looking like you don't understand the game of basketball, is what I think.

Write it down, if you like.

hey man, im just curious... have you posted here before under a different moniker? you bring a good deal of knowledge, it's good to see in comparison to a lot of the other newcomers (no disrespect) that have come in.

I might have years ago… if I did, I forgot the ID, password and email account :-)

haha fair enough - either way, glad to see you posting.

I am sure that you would love him if he did not like melo

I like posters who post any interesting argument and who have open minds regarding everything. Party liners and hyper defenders are so 1980's.

I respect posters like Bonn1997 who seems to read every post with an open mind. We need a lot more like him and I wish that he posted more. There are a number of good posters who seem to be objective but way too many who are still too blinded by their position (on both sides).

I can say that posters seem to be moving more towards the middle then before. Pure knicks love is good but unbiased knicks love is better.

Melo?? Clearly you don't read things with an open mind since you're talking Melo here. Keep patting yourself on the back though.

mreinman wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder. I DO NOT think Willy H is that guy.

So a really good scorer and defender and passer and rebounder with great energy.

Why didn't the Knicks think of that??

Is that true? Then why did we spend 18mm on slow 7 footers?

I'm asking you a genuine question. You really, intentionally posted a topic suggesting the Knicks need a player who is a good scorer, defender, passer, and rebounder?

Umm yes--for the money we spent on the pivot--we did not get that. Im not a believer in guys with no post game Lopez has almost no post game and I have no clue what were doing with Oquinn but we spent 18mm on them combined.

In the future I think we need to make sure the player at the price range is more skilled faster and more athletic than what we bought.

So you really don't understand the player you are describing is a max player. That connection in your brain hasn't been made yet?

are you the new house prick just jumping from thread to thread critiquing everyone's posts? Have you added anything to the board yet? Any original thoughts? Ideas? Jokes? Sumpin?

Do you think anyone even has any idea of what you think or what opinions you have that makes you memorable - good or bad? No ... not really.

Being the house prick only critiquing posts is not gonna last to long. At some point you will have to contribute some substance be it smart or even stupid. Just memorable in some way other than just being a jerk.

Oh I remember bigballs, he believe in X.

mreinman, stop with this type of posts, you are way off on your target here and I don't want it to go further. Please stick with basketball instead of psuedo mod. Thanks.

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder. I DO NOT think Willy H is that guy.

So a really good scorer and defender and passer and rebounder with great energy.

Why didn't the Knicks think of that??

Is that true? Then why did we spend 18mm on slow 7 footers?

I'm asking you a genuine question. You really, intentionally posted a topic suggesting the Knicks need a player who is a good scorer, defender, passer, and rebounder?

Umm yes--for the money we spent on the pivot--we did not get that. Im not a believer in guys with no post game Lopez has almost no post game and I have no clue what were doing with Oquinn but we spent 18mm on them combined.

In the future I think we need to make sure the player at the price range is more skilled faster and more athletic than what we bought.

So you really don't understand the player you are describing is a max player. That connection in your brain hasn't been made yet?

We spent our max money on KO--bench warmer and RL back up. Not my fault. Couldve drafted Bobby Portis at 21. Im looking under the radar--unless we have money to pay Al Horford AND he wanst to come here-- we need to take different avenues

What does what the Knicks spent cap space on have to do with it. Are you actually suggesting who the Knicks should acquire or indirectly complaining about moves they made.

Okay, you want a player that can score, defend, rebound and pass. Okay, great. Who's that exactly?

I think that if you spend 18mm $ on the post---R Lo and KO(those are the two who were singed long term) you must have evaluated that you were getting a maximum level player(output) between the two and its not even close to being the case. Lopez is just a piece that would be hard to trade now--only thing available for him is another teams POS. That means we accept poor value for a LOT of money spent. I mean we did spend what 30mm in free agency and we got one good player out of it. I dont think Phil wanted Porzingis and only luck is between us and a very shtty team. Lets thank god that Clarence Gaines(who has been over rated himself) just got this one right. I think a few of us wanted Porzingis more than Phil did. Carmelo didnt even want Porzingis--the dude wanted Trey Lyles although he can BS until the cos come home.

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder. I DO NOT think Willy H is that guy.

So a really good scorer and defender and passer and rebounder with great energy.

Why didn't the Knicks think of that??

Is that true? Then why did we spend 18mm on slow 7 footers?

I'm asking you a genuine question. You really, intentionally posted a topic suggesting the Knicks need a player who is a good scorer, defender, passer, and rebounder?

Umm yes--for the money we spent on the pivot--we did not get that. Im not a believer in guys with no post game Lopez has almost no post game and I have no clue what were doing with Oquinn but we spent 18mm on them combined.

In the future I think we need to make sure the player at the price range is more skilled faster and more athletic than what we bought.

So you really don't understand the player you are describing is a max player. That connection in your brain hasn't been made yet?

We spent our max money on KO--bench warmer and RL back up. Not my fault. Couldve drafted Bobby Portis at 21. Im looking under the radar--unless we have money to pay Al Horford AND he wanst to come here-- we need to take different avenues

What does what the Knicks spent cap space on have to do with it. Are you actually suggesting who the Knicks should acquire or indirectly complaining about moves they made.

Okay, you want a player that can score, defend, rebound and pass. Okay, great. Who's that exactly?

I think that if you spend 18mm $ on the post---R Lo and KO(those are the two who were singed long term) you must have evaluated that you were getting a maximum level player(output) between the two and its not even close to being the case. Lopez is just a piece that would be hard to trade now--only thing available for him is another teams POS. That means we accept poor value for a LOT of money spent. I mean we did spend what 30mm in free agency and we got one good player out of it. I dont think Phil wanted Porzingis and only luck is between us and a very shtty team. Lets thank god that Clarence Gaines(who has been over rated himself) just got this one right. I think a few of us wanted Porzingis more than Phil did. Carmelo didnt even want Porzingis--the dude wanted Trey Lyles although he can BS until the cos come home.

Okay, so I've asked three times now and gotten the same response. You just want to criticize the acquisitions made, you don't actually talk about who the player who can score, defend, pass and rebound you want the Knicks to acquire, who he is or who to get him.

Can I assume that's a fair assumption at this point?

TheGame wrote:All we need is for KP, Grant, and Galloway to continue to improve as players. We also need another guard/small forward who can create his own shot. Plus, we need melo to pass even more than he has this season and stop all of the contested jumpers. Melo needs to postup more.

blkexec wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:I might bench Lopez and start O'Quinn. Honestly, some of the moves lately are head scratchers. I know you can't give everyone minutes, but we need scoring, and Williams gives you that, Lopez has vanished while O'Quinn who looked rugged has been banished. Urgent Memo to Derek Fisher: We do not possess our draft pick this year. Stop trying to lose!

I think the problem is, nobody expected lance to play the way he's been playing. Thats who took his minutes

I think Lance is a product of someone thats starting to feel comfortable in the triangle. And his skill set doesn't depend on ISO moves. He's a system guy, with average skill. They are using Lance to advertise how the triangle can make an average player look like an NBA starter. I think it's Phil marketing tool. But this is why fisher and phil kept LT and the other role players from last year. Locker room and on court coaches.....who lead by example through hard work and effort.

Last year, everybody said LT was a bum.....This year, some people are saying he should start at SF, move Melo to PF and KP to Center. What a difference a year makes!

Last year, he was a bum. Starting to show his Duke pedigree. He seems to have discovered a shooting touch. I keep hearing the announcers mention all the work that he put in during the summer. He defense isn't bad either.

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder. I DO NOT think Willy H is that guy.

So a really good scorer and defender and passer and rebounder with great energy.

Why didn't the Knicks think of that??

Is that true? Then why did we spend 18mm on slow 7 footers?

I'm asking you a genuine question. You really, intentionally posted a topic suggesting the Knicks need a player who is a good scorer, defender, passer, and rebounder?

Umm yes--for the money we spent on the pivot--we did not get that. Im not a believer in guys with no post game Lopez has almost no post game and I have no clue what were doing with Oquinn but we spent 18mm on them combined.

In the future I think we need to make sure the player at the price range is more skilled faster and more athletic than what we bought.

So you really don't understand the player you are describing is a max player. That connection in your brain hasn't been made yet?

We spent our max money on KO--bench warmer and RL back up. Not my fault. Couldve drafted Bobby Portis at 21. Im looking under the radar--unless we have money to pay Al Horford AND he wanst to come here-- we need to take different avenues

What does what the Knicks spent cap space on have to do with it. Are you actually suggesting who the Knicks should acquire or indirectly complaining about moves they made.

Okay, you want a player that can score, defend, rebound and pass. Okay, great. Who's that exactly?

I think that if you spend 18mm $ on the post---R Lo and KO(those are the two who were singed long term) you must have evaluated that you were getting a maximum level player(output) between the two and its not even close to being the case. Lopez is just a piece that would be hard to trade now--only thing available for him is another teams POS. That means we accept poor value for a LOT of money spent. I mean we did spend what 30mm in free agency and we got one good player out of it. I dont think Phil wanted Porzingis and only luck is between us and a very shtty team. Lets thank god that Clarence Gaines(who has been over rated himself) just got this one right. I think a few of us wanted Porzingis more than Phil did. Carmelo didnt even want Porzingis--the dude wanted Trey Lyles although he can BS until the cos come home.

Okay, so I've asked three times now and gotten the same response. You just want to criticize the acquisitions made, you don't actually talk about who the player who can score, defend, pass and rebound you want the Knicks to acquire, who he is or who to get him.

Can I assume that's a fair assumption at this point?

???

Let me be clearer.

What we need to get better

1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder.

Okay.

Who?

And how?

Okay let me be clearer--Phil Jackson shouldve "waited" with the 18mm $ waited for players who are WORTH 18mm $. Also Bobby Portis really fell in the draft--personally at one point I had him at 3 and for him to fall past 20 was insane. We passed on a 6-11 250 pd versatile C/PF. We dont have privy to what is what--we dont know as fans that we are getting pick 21 or that the Knicks loved Lopez Oquinn and Willy h. Maybe they shouldve switched plans seeing Portis fall like that--they were fixated on Grant. The answer is we should NOT spend 18mm $ on players we feel are not worth that 18mm$ right? Could we have saved that money or helped us to facilitate trades? I really DO NOT think Lopez is much better than Cole A in fact I think it is possible Cole A is better than Lopez given a chance. The second we signed it I knew it was a mistake. I give them all the credit for Affalo Williams Seraphin for 2mm even Oquinn for 4mm--I have zero problems with anything there. BUT then those contracts especially Oquinns gets compounded because we signed that position another 13mm per. Now we are into the C spots 17-18mm for 4 years.

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder. I DO NOT think Willy H is that guy.

So a really good scorer and defender and passer and rebounder with great energy.

Why didn't the Knicks think of that??

Is that true? Then why did we spend 18mm on slow 7 footers?

I'm asking you a genuine question. You really, intentionally posted a topic suggesting the Knicks need a player who is a good scorer, defender, passer, and rebounder?

Umm yes--for the money we spent on the pivot--we did not get that. Im not a believer in guys with no post game Lopez has almost no post game and I have no clue what were doing with Oquinn but we spent 18mm on them combined.

In the future I think we need to make sure the player at the price range is more skilled faster and more athletic than what we bought.

So you really don't understand the player you are describing is a max player. That connection in your brain hasn't been made yet?

We spent our max money on KO--bench warmer and RL back up. Not my fault. Couldve drafted Bobby Portis at 21. Im looking under the radar--unless we have money to pay Al Horford AND he wanst to come here-- we need to take different avenues

What does what the Knicks spent cap space on have to do with it. Are you actually suggesting who the Knicks should acquire or indirectly complaining about moves they made.

Okay, you want a player that can score, defend, rebound and pass. Okay, great. Who's that exactly?

I think that if you spend 18mm $ on the post---R Lo and KO(those are the two who were singed long term) you must have evaluated that you were getting a maximum level player(output) between the two and its not even close to being the case. Lopez is just a piece that would be hard to trade now--only thing available for him is another teams POS. That means we accept poor value for a LOT of money spent. I mean we did spend what 30mm in free agency and we got one good player out of it. I dont think Phil wanted Porzingis and only luck is between us and a very shtty team. Lets thank god that Clarence Gaines(who has been over rated himself) just got this one right. I think a few of us wanted Porzingis more than Phil did. Carmelo didnt even want Porzingis--the dude wanted Trey Lyles although he can BS until the cos come home.

Okay, so I've asked three times now and gotten the same response. You just want to criticize the acquisitions made, you don't actually talk about who the player who can score, defend, pass and rebound you want the Knicks to acquire, who he is or who to get him.

Can I assume that's a fair assumption at this point?

???

Let me be clearer.

What we need to get better

1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder.

Okay.

Who?

And how?

Okay let me be clearer--Phil Jackson shouldve "waited" with the 18mm $ waited for players who are WORTH 18mm $. Also Bobby Portis really fell in the draft--personally at one point I had him at 3 and for him to fall past 20 was insane. We passed on a 6-11 250 pd versatile C/PF. We dont have privy to what is what--we dont know as fans that we are getting pick 21 or that the Knicks loved Lopez Oquinn and Willy h. Maybe they shouldve switched plans seeing Portis fall like that--they were fixated on Grant. The answer is we should NOT spend 18mm $ on players we feel are not worth that 18mm$ right? Could we have saved that money or helped us to facilitate trades? I really DO NOT think Lopez is much better than Cole A in fact I think it is possible Cole A is better than Lopez given a chance. The second we signed it I knew it was a mistake. I give them all the credit for Affalo Williams Seraphin for 2mm even Oquinn for 4mm--I have zero problems with anything there. BUT then those contracts especially Oquinns gets compounded because we signed that position another 13mm per. Now we are into the C spots 17-18mm for 4 years.

You created a topic "what we need to get better".

The first sentence in your topic is "1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder."

Why did you post this topic when you had no intention of talking about what the Knicks needs to get better, but only want to talk about Robin Lopez?

On the surface this thread seems disingenuous. I've given you ever opportunity to discuss who the Knicks need, and who the good scorer/rebounder/passer/defender is, and all you want to really talk about it who the Knicks got you don't like and who the Knicks didn't get you would have liked them to.

So I'll make this simple, is this thread really about who the Knicks can get to get better or isn't it?