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What is this? KP against Melo? You guys better get real. It will take a team effort to win stop putting one against the other.
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ChuckBuck
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11/22/2015  11:39 PM
KP ain't fighting Melo, and Melo ain't against KP.

Melo has a bigger worry to concern himself.

Melo vs Father Time.

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11/23/2015  1:16 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:KP ain't fighting Melo, and Melo ain't against KP.

Melo has a bigger worry to concern himself.

Melo vs Father Time.

F that selfish SOB for not retarding the passage of time.

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11/23/2015  7:25 AM
From Berman today:
MIAMI — Carmelo Anthony never objected to Knicks president Phil Jackson selecting Kristaps Porzingis at No. 4, but had told insiders he wouldn’t have minded Duke swingman Justise Winslow or Arizona forward Stanley Johnson at that slot either.

Of course, Anthony is ecstatic how it is playing out for the surging Knicks, who face the Heat on Monday at AmericanAirlines Arena. Anthony may square off against Winslow, who comes off the bench but often matches up against an opponent’s top scorer.

In the wake of another masterpiece by Porzingis on Saturday in Houston that included an otherworldly fourth quarter, the prospect of Anthony and the 7-foot-3 Latvian becoming a long-term star tandem is happening sooner rather than later.

Anthony, who has four years left on his contract, recently told confidants about Porzingis: “He’s gonna lead this organization long after I’m retired. Hopefully we can hoist one or two [championship trophies] before that happens.’’

Jackson may have the final nugget for his lofty résumé for taking Porzingis over Winslow, point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, and big man Willie Cauley-Stein.

Instead of jealousy over Porzingis’ sudden fame, Anthony is relishing it, becoming “a big brother’’ as promised in training camp. Anthony is almost always looking for the rookie-of-the-year candidate. And he wants no credit for the kid’s stunning start.

“We’re just building it,’’ Anthony said of their relationship. “I’m here to help him and use my experience and help him get his feet wet, and he’s doing a pretty good job. I don’t want any credit for that. He’s doing a good job on his own. Learning the game and getting feel for the game. You can see each game he’s getting better.’’

The Anthony-Porzingis pairing is going a lot smoother than Houston’s James Harden/Dwight Howard coupling.

“It’s the most important thing,’’ interim Rockets coach J.B Bickerstaff said in Houston. “If they’re not on the same page between the lines, we don’t get where we need to go.’’

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Jeremy Lin and Carmelo Anthony in 2012.Photo: AP
There wasn’t the same bond between Anthony and Jeremy Lin during the Linsanity days of 2012. One source said the situations are different. Lin never even excelled at practice, contrary to Porzingis always working hard.

Grounded and basketball-focused, he was unmoved when asked about looking forward to his very first visit to South Beach.


http://nypost.com/2015/11/23/big-brother-carmelo-already-talking-nba-titles-with-porzingis/
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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11/23/2015  8:47 AM
bigbasketballs wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:KP ain't fighting Melo, and Melo ain't against KP.

Melo has a bigger worry to concern himself.

Melo vs Father Time.

F that selfish SOB for not retarding the passage of time.

+1

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11/23/2015  8:58 AM
CrushAlot wrote:From Berman today:
MIAMI — Carmelo Anthony never objected to Knicks president Phil Jackson selecting Kristaps Porzingis at No. 4, but had told insiders he wouldn’t have minded Duke swingman Justise Winslow or Arizona forward Stanley Johnson at that slot either.

Of course, Anthony is ecstatic how it is playing out for the surging Knicks, who face the Heat on Monday at AmericanAirlines Arena. Anthony may square off against Winslow, who comes off the bench but often matches up against an opponent’s top scorer.

In the wake of another masterpiece by Porzingis on Saturday in Houston that included an otherworldly fourth quarter, the prospect of Anthony and the 7-foot-3 Latvian becoming a long-term star tandem is happening sooner rather than later.

Anthony, who has four years left on his contract, recently told confidants about Porzingis: “He’s gonna lead this organization long after I’m retired. Hopefully we can hoist one or two [championship trophies] before that happens.’’

Jackson may have the final nugget for his lofty résumé for taking Porzingis over Winslow, point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, and big man Willie Cauley-Stein.

Instead of jealousy over Porzingis’ sudden fame, Anthony is relishing it, becoming “a big brother’’ as promised in training camp. Anthony is almost always looking for the rookie-of-the-year candidate. And he wants no credit for the kid’s stunning start.

“We’re just building it,’’ Anthony said of their relationship. “I’m here to help him and use my experience and help him get his feet wet, and he’s doing a pretty good job. I don’t want any credit for that. He’s doing a good job on his own. Learning the game and getting feel for the game. You can see each game he’s getting better.’’

The Anthony-Porzingis pairing is going a lot smoother than Houston’s James Harden/Dwight Howard coupling.

“It’s the most important thing,’’ interim Rockets coach J.B Bickerstaff said in Houston. “If they’re not on the same page between the lines, we don’t get where we need to go.’’

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Jeremy Lin and Carmelo Anthony in 2012.Photo: AP
There wasn’t the same bond between Anthony and Jeremy Lin during the Linsanity days of 2012. One source said the situations are different. Lin never even excelled at practice, contrary to Porzingis always working hard.

Grounded and basketball-focused, he was unmoved when asked about looking forward to his very first visit to South Beach.


http://nypost.com/2015/11/23/big-brother-carmelo-already-talking-nba-titles-with-porzingis/
and the best part is I dont need to read this stuff (its nice ) to see this.

My enjoyment for this team went up another notch when I started following these guys on instagram. I follow the Knicks, KP, Gallow, Melo, Grant and Rolo. There is a reoccuring theme... these guys like each other.

Melo is showing the leadership and becoming the kind of player this organization really needed. He's making good on the no-trade clause. Why do you sign something like that? To be a PART of what is being here, and he's shown that he's more than happy to be that.

The 54 win season felt like the start of a great year. This feels like the start of a great ERA. Who knows if we win a chip or not, I dont think you can control that, but you can try to like hell to be there and I like our path

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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11/23/2015  9:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/23/2015  9:30 AM
bigbasketballs wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:KP ain't fighting Melo, and Melo ain't against KP.

Melo has a bigger worry to concern himself.

Melo vs Father Time.

F that selfish SOB for not retarding the passage of time.


And I bet he's still eating gluten, too!

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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11/23/2015  12:41 PM
CrushAlot wrote:From Berman today:
MIAMI — Carmelo Anthony never objected to Knicks president Phil Jackson selecting Kristaps Porzingis at No. 4, but had told insiders he wouldn’t have minded Duke swingman Justise Winslow or Arizona forward Stanley Johnson at that slot either.

Of course, Anthony is ecstatic how it is playing out for the surging Knicks, who face the Heat on Monday at AmericanAirlines Arena. Anthony may square off against Winslow, who comes off the bench but often matches up against an opponent’s top scorer.

In the wake of another masterpiece by Porzingis on Saturday in Houston that included an otherworldly fourth quarter, the prospect of Anthony and the 7-foot-3 Latvian becoming a long-term star tandem is happening sooner rather than later.

Anthony, who has four years left on his contract, recently told confidants about Porzingis: “He’s gonna lead this organization long after I’m retired. Hopefully we can hoist one or two [championship trophies] before that happens.’’

Jackson may have the final nugget for his lofty résumé for taking Porzingis over Winslow, point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, and big man Willie Cauley-Stein.

Instead of jealousy over Porzingis’ sudden fame, Anthony is relishing it, becoming “a big brother’’ as promised in training camp. Anthony is almost always looking for the rookie-of-the-year candidate. And he wants no credit for the kid’s stunning start.

“We’re just building it,’’ Anthony said of their relationship. “I’m here to help him and use my experience and help him get his feet wet, and he’s doing a pretty good job. I don’t want any credit for that. He’s doing a good job on his own. Learning the game and getting feel for the game. You can see each game he’s getting better.’’

The Anthony-Porzingis pairing is going a lot smoother than Houston’s James Harden/Dwight Howard coupling.

“It’s the most important thing,’’ interim Rockets coach J.B Bickerstaff said in Houston. “If they’re not on the same page between the lines, we don’t get where we need to go.’’

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Jeremy Lin and Carmelo Anthony in 2012.Photo: AP
There wasn’t the same bond between Anthony and Jeremy Lin during the Linsanity days of 2012. One source said the situations are different. Lin never even excelled at practice, contrary to Porzingis always working hard.

Grounded and basketball-focused, he was unmoved when asked about looking forward to his very first visit to South Beach.


http://nypost.com/2015/11/23/big-brother-carmelo-already-talking-nba-titles-with-porzingis/

Ugh Melo is officially a worst GM than Isiah

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11/23/2015  4:31 PM
It is the media that gets into all of this "who is the alpha dog" and "who's team is it." Every player on the team is important and has a role, and Melo realizes that. He is going to need KP and everyone else on this team if he is going to win a championship. Melo is at the stage of his career when it is more about winning than being viewed as the Alpha Dog. It is the same thing that David Robinson went through with Tim Duncan. By the end of the first year, it was clear Duncan was the best player on the team, and David did not fight it. He embraced it and helped Duncan succeed. Hopefully, Melo will do the same thing, and we can have the same result (the Spurs won a championship).
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11/23/2015  4:42 PM
All off season I said let the games speak for themselves.

Melo is playing the rust of missing 40 games and not touching a ball until late august.
His defense and assists are better. Want proof?

8-6.

If Melo turns into the player we all want him to be its because the team is better all around him.

Fault and blame are for losers.

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11/23/2015  4:47 PM
TheGame wrote:It is the media that gets into all of this "who is the alpha dog" and "who's team is it." Every player on the team is important and has a role, and Melo realizes that. He is going to need KP and everyone else on this team if he is going to win a championship. Melo is at the stage of his career when it is more about winning than being viewed as the Alpha Dog. It is the same thing that David Robinson went through with Tim Duncan. By the end of the first year, it was clear Duncan was the best player on the team, and David did not fight it. He embraced it and helped Duncan succeed. Hopefully, Melo will do the same thing, and we can have the same result (the Spurs won a championship).

Yup. Embrace the secondary scorer role, and do the little things that lead to victories. Alpha, Primary scorer, Lead dog, scoring titles...Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. He's at this stage in his career where he can live without the shine (hopefully). As long as Melo plays his role under KP, than the Knicks will be good shape.

Winning is really all that matters, and building a winning culture hopefully for KP's prime years.

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11/23/2015  5:07 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
TheGame wrote:It is the media that gets into all of this "who is the alpha dog" and "who's team is it." Every player on the team is important and has a role, and Melo realizes that. He is going to need KP and everyone else on this team if he is going to win a championship. Melo is at the stage of his career when it is more about winning than being viewed as the Alpha Dog. It is the same thing that David Robinson went through with Tim Duncan. By the end of the first year, it was clear Duncan was the best player on the team, and David did not fight it. He embraced it and helped Duncan succeed. Hopefully, Melo will do the same thing, and we can have the same result (the Spurs won a championship).

Yup. Embrace the secondary scorer role, and do the little things that lead to victories. Alpha, Primary scorer, Lead dog, scoring titles...Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. He's at this stage in his career where he can live without the shine (hopefully). As long as Melo plays his role under KP, than the Knicks will be good shape.

Winning is really all that matters, and building a winning culture hopefully for KP's prime years.

My post was not intended to suggest that Melo needs to play "under KP". The two of them just need to continue to play as a team and focus on winning and things will work out.

Trust the Process
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11/23/2015  5:20 PM
Nalod wrote:All off season I said let the games speak for themselves.

Melo is playing the rust of missing 40 games and not touching a ball until late august.
His defense and assists are better. Want proof?

8-6.

If Melo turns into the player we all want him to be its because the team is better all around him.

Fault and blame are for losers.

taking ownership and responsibility, on the other hand, is for winners.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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11/23/2015  5:23 PM
TheGame wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
TheGame wrote:It is the media that gets into all of this "who is the alpha dog" and "who's team is it." Every player on the team is important and has a role, and Melo realizes that. He is going to need KP and everyone else on this team if he is going to win a championship. Melo is at the stage of his career when it is more about winning than being viewed as the Alpha Dog. It is the same thing that David Robinson went through with Tim Duncan. By the end of the first year, it was clear Duncan was the best player on the team, and David did not fight it. He embraced it and helped Duncan succeed. Hopefully, Melo will do the same thing, and we can have the same result (the Spurs won a championship).

Yup. Embrace the secondary scorer role, and do the little things that lead to victories. Alpha, Primary scorer, Lead dog, scoring titles...Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. He's at this stage in his career where he can live without the shine (hopefully). As long as Melo plays his role under KP, than the Knicks will be good shape.

Winning is really all that matters, and building a winning culture hopefully for KP's prime years.

My post was not intended to suggest that Melo needs to play "under KP". The two of them just need to continue to play as a team and focus on winning and things will work out.

It's not you.. it's his 'thing.'

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11/23/2015  6:35 PM
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LivingLegend wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear says

KP Just started his career. God forbid he could get injured today or tomorrow and be out for the season. This journey is a marathon so enjoy the moment. /take a look at Houston. Players are sick and tired of Harden hoging the ball. Melo has been in the league for a long time. KP is just starting his career. It seems none of you are satisfied. Now we start to win and you are still not satisfied. Give KP a chance to gro. Look what happened to Linsanity. Melo and KP need each other to win. It is enough pressure with the bashing. If KY goes down then what happen.

We aren't the ones holding the ball, playing ISO, ignoring the system and generally doing whatever he wants - please speak to Melo is you are worried about creating conflict.

The entire roster plays in our system - Melo plays in his own system.


Papabear Says

Like I said KP could fall down and be out for the season. Of course I hope not. All I am saying is lets enjoy the ride with both players. We are quick to put our players on a pedestal and things fall apart then we throw them under the bus like Shumpet. Reading the game post some of you instead of enjoying the win still wanted to beat up on Melo. Damn man give it a break.

Give what "a damn break" exactly? Are we talking about taking a break from telling things as we see them or taking a break from making excuses for Melo doing whatever he wants.

I like this quote from Melo that he let slip out but it was too late -- when talking to reporters about him telling coaches to call him out for defensive lapses.

He said "I let them call me out" --- he lets them call him out -- isn't that nice of him. He probably also lets them tell him when he's going too much ISO. Again - that would be very nice of Melo to let the coaches call him out.

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11/23/2015  6:40 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:From Berman today:
MIAMI — Carmelo Anthony never objected to Knicks president Phil Jackson selecting Kristaps Porzingis at No. 4, but had told insiders he wouldn’t have minded Duke swingman Justise Winslow or Arizona forward Stanley Johnson at that slot either.

Of course, Anthony is ecstatic how it is playing out for the surging Knicks, who face the Heat on Monday at AmericanAirlines Arena. Anthony may square off against Winslow, who comes off the bench but often matches up against an opponent’s top scorer.

In the wake of another masterpiece by Porzingis on Saturday in Houston that included an otherworldly fourth quarter, the prospect of Anthony and the 7-foot-3 Latvian becoming a long-term star tandem is happening sooner rather than later.

Anthony, who has four years left on his contract, recently told confidants about Porzingis: “He’s gonna lead this organization long after I’m retired. Hopefully we can hoist one or two [championship trophies] before that happens.’’

Jackson may have the final nugget for his lofty résumé for taking Porzingis over Winslow, point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, and big man Willie Cauley-Stein.

Instead of jealousy over Porzingis’ sudden fame, Anthony is relishing it, becoming “a big brother’’ as promised in training camp. Anthony is almost always looking for the rookie-of-the-year candidate. And he wants no credit for the kid’s stunning start.

“We’re just building it,’’ Anthony said of their relationship. “I’m here to help him and use my experience and help him get his feet wet, and he’s doing a pretty good job. I don’t want any credit for that. He’s doing a good job on his own. Learning the game and getting feel for the game. You can see each game he’s getting better.’’

The Anthony-Porzingis pairing is going a lot smoother than Houston’s James Harden/Dwight Howard coupling.

“It’s the most important thing,’’ interim Rockets coach J.B Bickerstaff said in Houston. “If they’re not on the same page between the lines, we don’t get where we need to go.’’

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Jeremy Lin and Carmelo Anthony in 2012.Photo: AP
There wasn’t the same bond between Anthony and Jeremy Lin during the Linsanity days of 2012. One source said the situations are different. Lin never even excelled at practice, contrary to Porzingis always working hard.

Grounded and basketball-focused, he was unmoved when asked about looking forward to his very first visit to South Beach.


http://nypost.com/2015/11/23/big-brother-carmelo-already-talking-nba-titles-with-porzingis/

Ugh Melo is officially a worst GM than Isiah

Melo wanted Josh Selby over KP

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11/23/2015  10:40 PM
Take it easy LivingLegend, don't you know if you criticize the 7 god, you criticize the Knicks?
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11/24/2015  12:18 AM
TheGame wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
TheGame wrote:It is the media that gets into all of this "who is the alpha dog" and "who's team is it." Every player on the team is important and has a role, and Melo realizes that. He is going to need KP and everyone else on this team if he is going to win a championship. Melo is at the stage of his career when it is more about winning than being viewed as the Alpha Dog. It is the same thing that David Robinson went through with Tim Duncan. By the end of the first year, it was clear Duncan was the best player on the team, and David did not fight it. He embraced it and helped Duncan succeed. Hopefully, Melo will do the same thing, and we can have the same result (the Spurs won a championship).

Yup. Embrace the secondary scorer role, and do the little things that lead to victories. Alpha, Primary scorer, Lead dog, scoring titles...Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. He's at this stage in his career where he can live without the shine (hopefully). As long as Melo plays his role under KP, than the Knicks will be good shape.

Winning is really all that matters, and building a winning culture hopefully for KP's prime years.

My post was not intended to suggest that Melo needs to play "under KP". The two of them just need to continue to play as a team and focus on winning and things will work out.

Typical:) some fans/media just want to start a war to generate publicity. This team is well put and will find ways to block all of the noise. The young man only played 15 games and some are already anointing him as God

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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Knicks1969 wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear says

KP Just started his career. God forbid he could get injured today or tomorrow and be out for the season. This journey is a marathon so enjoy the moment. /take a look at Houston. Players are sick and tired of Harden hoging the ball. Melo has been in the league for a long time. KP is just starting his career. It seems none of you are satisfied. Now we start to win and you are still not satisfied. Give KP a chance to gro. Look what happened to Linsanity. Melo and KP need each other to win. It is enough pressure with the bashing. If KY goes down then what happen.

What are you talking about?
I'm happy with the way things are going.

You are?

We are 8-6, sharing the ball much better. KP is an upcoming star. Melo playing defense and dishing it.
Great team effort.

Yeah

+1 agreed.

No matter how things get better, their is a contingent of idiots who will look for anything but Melo as a necessary cause for happiness. Am I incredibly happy about Zingis?, you betcha. But I've read on this board for years about how if Melo ever improved at facilitating, they'd turn in their Hater card. Well well well, guess who's second (just barely) on the entire team in assists? Per 100 possessions, who's the third best facilitator on this team?

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11/24/2015  9:09 AM
jrodmc wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear says

KP Just started his career. God forbid he could get injured today or tomorrow and be out for the season. This journey is a marathon so enjoy the moment. /take a look at Houston. Players are sick and tired of Harden hoging the ball. Melo has been in the league for a long time. KP is just starting his career. It seems none of you are satisfied. Now we start to win and you are still not satisfied. Give KP a chance to gro. Look what happened to Linsanity. Melo and KP need each other to win. It is enough pressure with the bashing. If KY goes down then what happen.

What are you talking about?
I'm happy with the way things are going.

You are?

We are 8-6, sharing the ball much better. KP is an upcoming star. Melo playing defense and dishing it.
Great team effort.

Yeah

+1 agreed.

No matter how things get better, their is a contingent of idiots who will look for anything but Melo as a necessary cause for happiness. Am I incredibly happy about Zingis?, you betcha. But I've read on this board for years about how if Melo ever improved at facilitating, they'd turn in their Hater card. Well well well, guess who's second (just barely) on the entire team in assists? Per 100 possessions, who's the third best facilitator on this team?

'Bout time. Only took him 5 seasons.

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11/24/2015  12:56 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear says

KP Just started his career. God forbid he could get injured today or tomorrow and be out for the season. This journey is a marathon so enjoy the moment. /take a look at Houston. Players are sick and tired of Harden hoging the ball. Melo has been in the league for a long time. KP is just starting his career. It seems none of you are satisfied. Now we start to win and you are still not satisfied. Give KP a chance to gro. Look what happened to Linsanity. Melo and KP need each other to win. It is enough pressure with the bashing. If KY goes down then what happen.

What are you talking about?
I'm happy with the way things are going.

You are?

We are 8-6, sharing the ball much better. KP is an upcoming star. Melo playing defense and dishing it.
Great team effort.

Yeah

+1 agreed.

No matter how things get better, their is a contingent of idiots who will look for anything but Melo as a necessary cause for happiness. Am I incredibly happy about Zingis?, you betcha. But I've read on this board for years about how if Melo ever improved at facilitating, they'd turn in their Hater card. Well well well, guess who's second (just barely) on the entire team in assists? Per 100 possessions, who's the third best facilitator on this team?

'Bout time. Only took him 5 seasons.

Yes, tell us more about all those tremendous assets that we traded away for this fat, selfish YouTubeMelo (hey, remember that thread?) who could have been doing all this great facilitating 4 years ago if he hadn't FORCED HIS DOUCHEBAG SELF ON THIS GREAT FRANCHISE!

Because everyone can plainly see, 5 years later, that Moz >= Zingis, Gallo > Anyone on the squad now, Wilson > Affalo. Why, we'd have several chips by now, just like...Denver...or Utah...has.. with that draft pick that we were raped out of...

What is this? KP against Melo? You guys better get real. It will take a team effort to win stop putting one against the other.

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