ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:10000% agree with Chad Ford. Get Melo to waive no trade clause, and go all in on the rebuild. Get some role players and picks to complement the Latvian Legend. Build around Porzingis, damit!

Stephen A is an entertaining phucktard.

This is where both you and Stephen A are wrong, you do not need to pick one or the other. There is no definitive "either build around Melo, or build around KP" that has to be done right away. Obviously KP is the future of the team, no doubt about it, but both you and ESPN, and Stephen A think in extremes. It doesn't have to be far left or far right. You build around KP, while keeping Melo as part of the equation to remain as competitive as possible while KP develops at a steady rate. You do not throw KP even more in the fire, starting him does enough, and fortunately he is mentally tough enough to handle his current role. But to increase that role asap is a huge mistake. We DO NOT have a draft pick this offseason, we WILL NOT yield a high return for Melo at this stage, so sit back and allow KP to develop while Melo scores his 20+ ppg, wins us some games, because again, there is no advantage to losing, it does not help us this offseason. When KP is ready for prime time, the Knicks will pass the torch to him and Melo will either be phased out and traded to a contender, or continue in a supporting role as a secondary scorer. It's really that simple. But you insisting this team cannot be Porzingis' team WHEN he is ready for that because Melo is here is very foolish on your part. It is clear you will never quite understand this, but there is zero advantage to trading Melo as long as he continues to buy in and play his part.

You trade Melo sooner rather than later while he still retains some value. You will not get better value down the road, especially draft picks. If you or others can't see the value in picks

Quantify the value of "picks"? A "pick" could be anywhere from 1 to 60, with represents many tiers of wildly varying values.

You trade him the instant someone dials 9 to dial out on the landline....

What part of "no-trade clause" do you struggle with?

If they're even talking about trading Melo, then a "no-trade clause" can be waived. What part of that do you struggle with? Basically all Fisher has to do is bench Melo, Melo complains to Jax, Jax honors his request.

Understand?

Your ideas continue to amaze me.

Anyone afraid to even entertain trade offers for best return in value picks and valuable role players to grow alongside our prized youth project continue to amaze me.

You'd all rather see a guy chuck it up for 30% from the field with 1 or 2 assists and negative floor energy on defense...

Get thee to the Trade Checker then! What exactly are you talking about? What is this trade when we haven't even see our a division rival yet and teams are still filling out their rosters with hardship cases?

I mean I don't even have to go to the Trade Checker to tell you Noah and Taj Gibson works for Melo money wise. Obviously Portis or Mirotic or McDermott would be nice, but just for arguments sake, you can see it wouldn't be hard.

So Noah and Gibson are the role players you want to "grow" alongside Porzingis. That is what you said, not me. I understand there are trades out there for Melo, but you are listing a trade which unloads Melo, and doesn't help put the right guys next to Porzingis. In fact, the players you mentioned would just eat into his time and could hamper his development. I understand this is just an example, but using your own logic, it is a very poor one. We don't really know what is out there for an offer, so let's not assume every team is going to give us exactly what we want if we can convince him to waive his NTC. Need to be a little realistic.

Noah and Gibson are expiring contracts my friend. We'd get out from 4 more years of declining value in Melo. Think outside the box.

So what happened to your get value why you can theory?

yellowboy90 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:10000% agree with Chad Ford. Get Melo to waive no trade clause, and go all in on the rebuild. Get some role players and picks to complement the Latvian Legend. Build around Porzingis, damit!

Stephen A is an entertaining phucktard.

This is where both you and Stephen A are wrong, you do not need to pick one or the other. There is no definitive "either build around Melo, or build around KP" that has to be done right away. Obviously KP is the future of the team, no doubt about it, but both you and ESPN, and Stephen A think in extremes. It doesn't have to be far left or far right. You build around KP, while keeping Melo as part of the equation to remain as competitive as possible while KP develops at a steady rate. You do not throw KP even more in the fire, starting him does enough, and fortunately he is mentally tough enough to handle his current role. But to increase that role asap is a huge mistake. We DO NOT have a draft pick this offseason, we WILL NOT yield a high return for Melo at this stage, so sit back and allow KP to develop while Melo scores his 20+ ppg, wins us some games, because again, there is no advantage to losing, it does not help us this offseason. When KP is ready for prime time, the Knicks will pass the torch to him and Melo will either be phased out and traded to a contender, or continue in a supporting role as a secondary scorer. It's really that simple. But you insisting this team cannot be Porzingis' team WHEN he is ready for that because Melo is here is very foolish on your part. It is clear you will never quite understand this, but there is zero advantage to trading Melo as long as he continues to buy in and play his part.

You trade Melo sooner rather than later while he still retains some value. You will not get better value down the road, especially draft picks. If you or others can't see the value in picks

Quantify the value of "picks"? A "pick" could be anywhere from 1 to 60, with represents many tiers of wildly varying values.

You trade him the instant someone dials 9 to dial out on the landline....

What part of "no-trade clause" do you struggle with?

If they're even talking about trading Melo, then a "no-trade clause" can be waived. What part of that do you struggle with? Basically all Fisher has to do is bench Melo, Melo complains to Jax, Jax honors his request.

Understand?

Your ideas continue to amaze me.

Anyone afraid to even entertain trade offers for best return in value picks and valuable role players to grow alongside our prized youth project continue to amaze me.

You'd all rather see a guy chuck it up for 30% from the field with 1 or 2 assists and negative floor energy on defense...

Get thee to the Trade Checker then! What exactly are you talking about? What is this trade when we haven't even see our a division rival yet and teams are still filling out their rosters with hardship cases?

I mean I don't even have to go to the Trade Checker to tell you Noah and Taj Gibson works for Melo money wise. Obviously Portis or Mirotic or McDermott would be nice, but just for arguments sake, you can see it wouldn't be hard.

So Noah and Gibson are the role players you want to "grow" alongside Porzingis. That is what you said, not me. I understand there are trades out there for Melo, but you are listing a trade which unloads Melo, and doesn't help put the right guys next to Porzingis. In fact, the players you mentioned would just eat into his time and could hamper his development. I understand this is just an example, but using your own logic, it is a very poor one. We don't really know what is out there for an offer, so let's not assume every team is going to give us exactly what we want if we can convince him to waive his NTC. Need to be a little realistic.

Noah and Gibson are expiring contracts my friend. We'd get out from 4 more years of declining value in Melo. Think outside the box.

So what happened to your get value why you can theory?

+1. He is so completely all over the place with this.

yellowboy90 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:10000% agree with Chad Ford. Get Melo to waive no trade clause, and go all in on the rebuild. Get some role players and picks to complement the Latvian Legend. Build around Porzingis, damit!

Stephen A is an entertaining phucktard.

This is where both you and Stephen A are wrong, you do not need to pick one or the other. There is no definitive "either build around Melo, or build around KP" that has to be done right away. Obviously KP is the future of the team, no doubt about it, but both you and ESPN, and Stephen A think in extremes. It doesn't have to be far left or far right. You build around KP, while keeping Melo as part of the equation to remain as competitive as possible while KP develops at a steady rate. You do not throw KP even more in the fire, starting him does enough, and fortunately he is mentally tough enough to handle his current role. But to increase that role asap is a huge mistake. We DO NOT have a draft pick this offseason, we WILL NOT yield a high return for Melo at this stage, so sit back and allow KP to develop while Melo scores his 20+ ppg, wins us some games, because again, there is no advantage to losing, it does not help us this offseason. When KP is ready for prime time, the Knicks will pass the torch to him and Melo will either be phased out and traded to a contender, or continue in a supporting role as a secondary scorer. It's really that simple. But you insisting this team cannot be Porzingis' team WHEN he is ready for that because Melo is here is very foolish on your part. It is clear you will never quite understand this, but there is zero advantage to trading Melo as long as he continues to buy in and play his part.

You trade Melo sooner rather than later while he still retains some value. You will not get better value down the road, especially draft picks. If you or others can't see the value in picks

Quantify the value of "picks"? A "pick" could be anywhere from 1 to 60, with represents many tiers of wildly varying values.

You trade him the instant someone dials 9 to dial out on the landline....

What part of "no-trade clause" do you struggle with?

If they're even talking about trading Melo, then a "no-trade clause" can be waived. What part of that do you struggle with? Basically all Fisher has to do is bench Melo, Melo complains to Jax, Jax honors his request.

Understand?

Your ideas continue to amaze me.

Anyone afraid to even entertain trade offers for best return in value picks and valuable role players to grow alongside our prized youth project continue to amaze me.

You'd all rather see a guy chuck it up for 30% from the field with 1 or 2 assists and negative floor energy on defense...

Get thee to the Trade Checker then! What exactly are you talking about? What is this trade when we haven't even see our a division rival yet and teams are still filling out their rosters with hardship cases?

I mean I don't even have to go to the Trade Checker to tell you Noah and Taj Gibson works for Melo money wise. Obviously Portis or Mirotic or McDermott would be nice, but just for arguments sake, you can see it wouldn't be hard.

So Noah and Gibson are the role players you want to "grow" alongside Porzingis. That is what you said, not me. I understand there are trades out there for Melo, but you are listing a trade which unloads Melo, and doesn't help put the right guys next to Porzingis. In fact, the players you mentioned would just eat into his time and could hamper his development. I understand this is just an example, but using your own logic, it is a very poor one. We don't really know what is out there for an offer, so let's not assume every team is going to give us exactly what we want if we can convince him to waive his NTC. Need to be a little realistic.

Noah and Gibson are expiring contracts my friend. We'd get out from 4 more years of declining value in Melo. Think outside the box.

So what happened to your get value why you can theory?

addition by subtraction :-)

yellowboy90 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:10000% agree with Chad Ford. Get Melo to waive no trade clause, and go all in on the rebuild. Get some role players and picks to complement the Latvian Legend. Build around Porzingis, damit!

Stephen A is an entertaining phucktard.

This is where both you and Stephen A are wrong, you do not need to pick one or the other. There is no definitive "either build around Melo, or build around KP" that has to be done right away. Obviously KP is the future of the team, no doubt about it, but both you and ESPN, and Stephen A think in extremes. It doesn't have to be far left or far right. You build around KP, while keeping Melo as part of the equation to remain as competitive as possible while KP develops at a steady rate. You do not throw KP even more in the fire, starting him does enough, and fortunately he is mentally tough enough to handle his current role. But to increase that role asap is a huge mistake. We DO NOT have a draft pick this offseason, we WILL NOT yield a high return for Melo at this stage, so sit back and allow KP to develop while Melo scores his 20+ ppg, wins us some games, because again, there is no advantage to losing, it does not help us this offseason. When KP is ready for prime time, the Knicks will pass the torch to him and Melo will either be phased out and traded to a contender, or continue in a supporting role as a secondary scorer. It's really that simple. But you insisting this team cannot be Porzingis' team WHEN he is ready for that because Melo is here is very foolish on your part. It is clear you will never quite understand this, but there is zero advantage to trading Melo as long as he continues to buy in and play his part.

You trade Melo sooner rather than later while he still retains some value. You will not get better value down the road, especially draft picks. If you or others can't see the value in picks

Quantify the value of "picks"? A "pick" could be anywhere from 1 to 60, with represents many tiers of wildly varying values.

You trade him the instant someone dials 9 to dial out on the landline....

What part of "no-trade clause" do you struggle with?

If they're even talking about trading Melo, then a "no-trade clause" can be waived. What part of that do you struggle with? Basically all Fisher has to do is bench Melo, Melo complains to Jax, Jax honors his request.

Understand?

Your ideas continue to amaze me.

Anyone afraid to even entertain trade offers for best return in value picks and valuable role players to grow alongside our prized youth project continue to amaze me.

You'd all rather see a guy chuck it up for 30% from the field with 1 or 2 assists and negative floor energy on defense...

Get thee to the Trade Checker then! What exactly are you talking about? What is this trade when we haven't even see our a division rival yet and teams are still filling out their rosters with hardship cases?

I mean I don't even have to go to the Trade Checker to tell you Noah and Taj Gibson works for Melo money wise. Obviously Portis or Mirotic or McDermott would be nice, but just for arguments sake, you can see it wouldn't be hard.

So Noah and Gibson are the role players you want to "grow" alongside Porzingis. That is what you said, not me. I understand there are trades out there for Melo, but you are listing a trade which unloads Melo, and doesn't help put the right guys next to Porzingis. In fact, the players you mentioned would just eat into his time and could hamper his development. I understand this is just an example, but using your own logic, it is a very poor one. We don't really know what is out there for an offer, so let's not assume every team is going to give us exactly what we want if we can convince him to waive his NTC. Need to be a little realistic.

Noah and Gibson are expiring contracts my friend. We'd get out from 4 more years of declining value in Melo. Think outside the box.

So what happened to your get value why you can theory?

I forget. You can't replace expiring contracts with free agents?

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:10000% agree with Chad Ford. Get Melo to waive no trade clause, and go all in on the rebuild. Get some role players and picks to complement the Latvian Legend. Build around Porzingis, damit!

Stephen A is an entertaining phucktard.

This is where both you and Stephen A are wrong, you do not need to pick one or the other. There is no definitive "either build around Melo, or build around KP" that has to be done right away. Obviously KP is the future of the team, no doubt about it, but both you and ESPN, and Stephen A think in extremes. It doesn't have to be far left or far right. You build around KP, while keeping Melo as part of the equation to remain as competitive as possible while KP develops at a steady rate. You do not throw KP even more in the fire, starting him does enough, and fortunately he is mentally tough enough to handle his current role. But to increase that role asap is a huge mistake. We DO NOT have a draft pick this offseason, we WILL NOT yield a high return for Melo at this stage, so sit back and allow KP to develop while Melo scores his 20+ ppg, wins us some games, because again, there is no advantage to losing, it does not help us this offseason. When KP is ready for prime time, the Knicks will pass the torch to him and Melo will either be phased out and traded to a contender, or continue in a supporting role as a secondary scorer. It's really that simple. But you insisting this team cannot be Porzingis' team WHEN he is ready for that because Melo is here is very foolish on your part. It is clear you will never quite understand this, but there is zero advantage to trading Melo as long as he continues to buy in and play his part.

You trade Melo sooner rather than later while he still retains some value. You will not get better value down the road, especially draft picks. If you or others can't see the value in picks

Quantify the value of "picks"? A "pick" could be anywhere from 1 to 60, with represents many tiers of wildly varying values.

You trade him the instant someone dials 9 to dial out on the landline....

What part of "no-trade clause" do you struggle with?

If they're even talking about trading Melo, then a "no-trade clause" can be waived. What part of that do you struggle with? Basically all Fisher has to do is bench Melo, Melo complains to Jax, Jax honors his request.

Understand?

Your ideas continue to amaze me.

Anyone afraid to even entertain trade offers for best return in value picks and valuable role players to grow alongside our prized youth project continue to amaze me.

You'd all rather see a guy chuck it up for 30% from the field with 1 or 2 assists and negative floor energy on defense...

Get thee to the Trade Checker then! What exactly are you talking about? What is this trade when we haven't even see our a division rival yet and teams are still filling out their rosters with hardship cases?

I mean I don't even have to go to the Trade Checker to tell you Noah and Taj Gibson works for Melo money wise. Obviously Portis or Mirotic or McDermott would be nice, but just for arguments sake, you can see it wouldn't be hard.

So Noah and Gibson are the role players you want to "grow" alongside Porzingis. That is what you said, not me. I understand there are trades out there for Melo, but you are listing a trade which unloads Melo, and doesn't help put the right guys next to Porzingis. In fact, the players you mentioned would just eat into his time and could hamper his development. I understand this is just an example, but using your own logic, it is a very poor one. We don't really know what is out there for an offer, so let's not assume every team is going to give us exactly what we want if we can convince him to waive his NTC. Need to be a little realistic.

Noah and Gibson are expiring contracts my friend. We'd get out from 4 more years of declining value in Melo. Think outside the box.

Just what we need, more cap space in a market which there will be enough for whatever we want. So again, you plan is to "unload" Melo for cap space, not trade him for young and picks to surround our young star with. I get what you are trying to do here, and i will say your thought process is inconsistent, shows little logic, and ultimately just attempts to satisfy your hate for Melo, which has absolutely nothing to do with trying to help the development of KP or the future of this team. You are not "thinking outside the box", you are stuck in a very small box filled with Melo-hate. I have shown in multiple threads while trading Melo (if he were to waive his clause) may have negative impact on the development of KP, and you have not proven otherwise. And before you argue I am in love with Melo, i will say that if they was a scenario which improves this team right now and sets us up better for the future as well by trading Melo, then i would be all for it. But i am not going to trade him at all costs, because that is just stupid, and again, we are fortunate that Phil, one of the greatest minds in basketball, agrees.

I don't know man. Word on the street(cell phone?) is Porzingis dunk on Aldridge maybe the hottest Vine clip of the year.

You have nice up and coming core and rising Porzingis, maybe you give some of the prime cap space in 2016 or 2017 to a Durant or Blake or CP3 or Curry or Conley or Westbrook or Derozan.

You can do that WITHOUT trading Melo. And why do any of those players come here if Melo is gone!!! LOL. Come on man, you can do so much better than this.

Why would Durant want to play along side someone that's declining and give him less of a chance to win than OKC?

Same with the rest. With an ascendant player like Porzingis, you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Use common sense, build with the youth core and teamball, not with relying on 30% volume shooter to recruit stars.

ChuckBuck wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

Blah blah blah blah.

Good retort. Presented with a logical take, you resort to childishness. Not much of a doctor!

There was stuff before that you cut out. But a picture is worth a thousand words. Got it.

Don't be butt hurt man. My only argument is that we can get good value for a "prime" Melo now (or near the trade deadline more accurately).

No, your argument is the Knicks can get good value back if you bench a "prime" Melo to dare him to waive his NTC.

It's the last part that is the fail.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:10000% agree with Chad Ford. Get Melo to waive no trade clause, and go all in on the rebuild. Get some role players and picks to complement the Latvian Legend. Build around Porzingis, damit!

Stephen A is an entertaining phucktard.

This is where both you and Stephen A are wrong, you do not need to pick one or the other. There is no definitive "either build around Melo, or build around KP" that has to be done right away. Obviously KP is the future of the team, no doubt about it, but both you and ESPN, and Stephen A think in extremes. It doesn't have to be far left or far right. You build around KP, while keeping Melo as part of the equation to remain as competitive as possible while KP develops at a steady rate. You do not throw KP even more in the fire, starting him does enough, and fortunately he is mentally tough enough to handle his current role. But to increase that role asap is a huge mistake. We DO NOT have a draft pick this offseason, we WILL NOT yield a high return for Melo at this stage, so sit back and allow KP to develop while Melo scores his 20+ ppg, wins us some games, because again, there is no advantage to losing, it does not help us this offseason. When KP is ready for prime time, the Knicks will pass the torch to him and Melo will either be phased out and traded to a contender, or continue in a supporting role as a secondary scorer. It's really that simple. But you insisting this team cannot be Porzingis' team WHEN he is ready for that because Melo is here is very foolish on your part. It is clear you will never quite understand this, but there is zero advantage to trading Melo as long as he continues to buy in and play his part.

You trade Melo sooner rather than later while he still retains some value. You will not get better value down the road, especially draft picks. If you or others can't see the value in picks

Quantify the value of "picks"? A "pick" could be anywhere from 1 to 60, with represents many tiers of wildly varying values.

You trade him the instant someone dials 9 to dial out on the landline....

What part of "no-trade clause" do you struggle with?

If they're even talking about trading Melo, then a "no-trade clause" can be waived. What part of that do you struggle with? Basically all Fisher has to do is bench Melo, Melo complains to Jax, Jax honors his request.

Understand?

Your ideas continue to amaze me.

Anyone afraid to even entertain trade offers for best return in value picks and valuable role players to grow alongside our prized youth project continue to amaze me.

You'd all rather see a guy chuck it up for 30% from the field with 1 or 2 assists and negative floor energy on defense...

Get thee to the Trade Checker then! What exactly are you talking about? What is this trade when we haven't even see our a division rival yet and teams are still filling out their rosters with hardship cases?

I mean I don't even have to go to the Trade Checker to tell you Noah and Taj Gibson works for Melo money wise. Obviously Portis or Mirotic or McDermott would be nice, but just for arguments sake, you can see it wouldn't be hard.

So Noah and Gibson are the role players you want to "grow" alongside Porzingis. That is what you said, not me. I understand there are trades out there for Melo, but you are listing a trade which unloads Melo, and doesn't help put the right guys next to Porzingis. In fact, the players you mentioned would just eat into his time and could hamper his development. I understand this is just an example, but using your own logic, it is a very poor one. We don't really know what is out there for an offer, so let's not assume every team is going to give us exactly what we want if we can convince him to waive his NTC. Need to be a little realistic.

Noah and Gibson are expiring contracts my friend. We'd get out from 4 more years of declining value in Melo. Think outside the box.

Just what we need, more cap space in a market which there will be enough for whatever we want. So again, you plan is to "unload" Melo for cap space, not trade him for young and picks to surround our young star with. I get what you are trying to do here, and i will say your thought process is inconsistent, shows little logic, and ultimately just attempts to satisfy your hate for Melo, which has absolutely nothing to do with trying to help the development of KP or the future of this team. You are not "thinking outside the box", you are stuck in a very small box filled with Melo-hate. I have shown in multiple threads while trading Melo (if he were to waive his clause) may have negative impact on the development of KP, and you have not proven otherwise. And before you argue I am in love with Melo, i will say that if they was a scenario which improves this team right now and sets us up better for the future as well by trading Melo, then i would be all for it. But i am not going to trade him at all costs, because that is just stupid, and again, we are fortunate that Phil, one of the greatest minds in basketball, agrees.

I don't know man. Word on the street(cell phone?) is Porzingis dunk on Aldridge maybe the hottest Vine clip of the year.

You have nice up and coming core and rising Porzingis, maybe you give some of the prime cap space in 2016 or 2017 to a Durant or Blake or CP3 or Curry or Conley or Westbrook or Derozan.

You can do that WITHOUT trading Melo. And why do any of those players come here if Melo is gone!!! LOL. Come on man, you can do so much better than this.

Why would Durant want to play along side someone that's declining and give him less of a chance to win than OKC?

Same with the rest. With an ascendant player like Porzingis, you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Use common sense, build with the youth core and teamball, not with relying on 30% volume shooter to recruit stars.

Dude, you just don't get it. First you want to trade Melo to get younger pieces to build alongside Porzingis. Then you want to trade him for future cap space and add players, who most of which will be in their late 20s or 30s when they are free agents, some of which happen to be friends with Melo as well? The players you are mentioning are not examples of building with a youth core, it is the complete opposite. You are attempted to trade Melo, build around KP for a year or 2, and go full circle by adding a new superstar that will undoubtedly take over that franchise leading role for the remainder of their prime years, which is what you wanted to abandon to begin with in order to give KP the keys and build around him? This is by far the most confusing conversation i have ever had on this forum in 15 years, i can honestly say. A tip for you, make an argument and stick by it, if its just aimlessly trading Melo because you think addition by subtraction is better for this franchise, stick with it, because this stuff is just confusing.

ChuckBuck wrote:Why would Durant want to play along side someone that's declining and give him less of a chance to win than OKC?

Same with the rest. With an ascendant player like Porzingis, you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Use common sense, build with the youth core and teamball, not with relying on 30% volume shooter to recruit stars.

So the Knicks are going to be players for top free agents after they benched a top player in his prime in an effort to force him to waive this NTC?

Got it.

mreinman wrote:melo being traded to chicago is not as far fetched as many of you believe.

Does it occur to anyone that maybe Melo just wants to be in NY no matter what?

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:melo being traded to chicago is not as far fetched as many of you believe.

No its not at all, it is actually possible if things take a turn at some point in the next year. It is likely he stays, but if something changes, that is his most likely landing spot.

half way through this season and we are mediocre (very likely), he will really get the itch, and chicago is the perfect spot if he will ever have the chance.

They also have a new coach who will not ride him to play balls out defense.

I say this has a 30% chance of happening ... just my 2 cents. It does not make much sense for him to stay (on either side)

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:melo being traded to chicago is not as far fetched as many of you believe.

Does it occur to anyone that maybe Melo just wants to be in NY no matter what?

thats an assumption not a fact. I think melo like everyone else wants to win. He ain't winning here.