dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:i didn't see any of you (mreinman or chuckbuck types) beotches complaining when he had a 37 points 7 rebs 4 ast stat line in the wiz game. that's a lebron stat line.

Thanks for the reminder! 1 good game out of 4 games, great ratio. Thanks for pointing it out.

Last two games he's gotten to the line 12 times a game, which is elite in that category. And as some have mentioned, he probably should've gotten there 16-18 times based on the number of missed calls.

No mention of Melo's constant bitching of non calls to the refs leading to fast breaks? Where's the stat on that?

um yeah he has to improve in that category for sure...

I agree that Melo shouldn't get caught up in arguing with the Refs but I also think he get's HAMMERED on a lot of plays and they don't call it. You can't BREATHE on some players but Melo you're free to abuse and they only call it when it's ridiculously obvious that you can't let that contact go.

Still I would LOVE to see Melo play more of "Olympic Melo" in this offense. Use the motion and flow to take advantage of screens and take open jumpers more than the ISO looks. It just would make more sense to let your teammates help you get open. He does it sometimes but not enough. If I was the coach i'd point that out and call for more screens rather than ISO looks even tho it's also part of the offense to create those looks, so let's not forget that.

this is one of your better posts, nixluva. one observation, though: melo initiates contact more than most.

The one play that drove me completely nuts about Melo last night late in game at critical'ish juncture: Knicks grab a fairly easy rebound and Melo, rebounder, Grant are all next to each other (I think this is how it went down, situation could have just been Melo rebounding ball, wish I remembered correctly). Spurs had already backed up and retreated to other end of court, so did rest of Knicks, so no fast break possibility. Grant is waiting to get ball to dribble up court but Melo is also calling for it. Rebounder hesitates and gives ball to Melo, Grant still waiting and looking at Melo, wanting ball to dribble up court. Melo, looks Grant off, dribbles slowly up court. Dances around 3 point line, waits, shoots. Misses. Kills momentum.

Why? Why does Melo consistently want to waste energy and dribble ball up court and kill a good flow? Grant is a ninja at pushing ball and making good enough decisions on the move.

martin wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:i didn't see any of you (mreinman or chuckbuck types) beotches complaining when he had a 37 points 7 rebs 4 ast stat line in the wiz game. that's a lebron stat line.

Thanks for the reminder! 1 good game out of 4 games, great ratio. Thanks for pointing it out.

Last two games he's gotten to the line 12 times a game, which is elite in that category. And as some have mentioned, he probably should've gotten there 16-18 times based on the number of missed calls.

No mention of Melo's constant bitching of non calls to the refs leading to fast breaks? Where's the stat on that?

um yeah he has to improve in that category for sure...

I agree that Melo shouldn't get caught up in arguing with the Refs but I also think he get's HAMMERED on a lot of plays and they don't call it. You can't BREATHE on some players but Melo you're free to abuse and they only call it when it's ridiculously obvious that you can't let that contact go.

Still I would LOVE to see Melo play more of "Olympic Melo" in this offense. Use the motion and flow to take advantage of screens and take open jumpers more than the ISO looks. It just would make more sense to let your teammates help you get open. He does it sometimes but not enough. If I was the coach i'd point that out and call for more screens rather than ISO looks even tho it's also part of the offense to create those looks, so let's not forget that.

this is one of your better posts, nixluva. one observation, though: melo initiates contact more than most.

The one play that drove me completely nuts about Melo last night late in game at critical'ish juncture: Knicks grab a fairly easy rebound and Melo, rebounder, Grant are all next to each other (I think this is how it went down, situation could have just been Melo rebounding ball, wish I remembered correctly). Spurs had already backed up and retreated to other end of court, so did rest of Knicks, so no fast break possibility. Grant is waiting to get ball to dribble up court but Melo is also calling for it. Rebounder hesitates and gives ball to Melo, Grant still waiting and looking at Melo, wanting ball to dribble up court. Melo, looks Grant off, dribbles slowly up court. Dances around 3 point line, waits, shoots. Misses. Kills momentum.

Why? Why does Melo consistently want to waste energy and dribble ball up court and kill a good flow? Grant is a ninja at pushing ball and making good enough decisions on the move.

I think that's more the reason to start Jerian sooner rather than later at point.

At least Melo will hopefully get used to Grant's tendencies and be more willing to hand off, than force the issue, knowing Grant's a willing passer. But then again, 13 seasons playing one way....

yellowboy90 wrote:

martin wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:i didn't see any of you (mreinman or chuckbuck types) beotches complaining when he had a 37 points 7 rebs 4 ast stat line in the wiz game. that's a lebron stat line.

Thanks for the reminder! 1 good game out of 4 games, great ratio. Thanks for pointing it out.

Last two games he's gotten to the line 12 times a game, which is elite in that category. And as some have mentioned, he probably should've gotten there 16-18 times based on the number of missed calls.

No mention of Melo's constant bitching of non calls to the refs leading to fast breaks? Where's the stat on that?

um yeah he has to improve in that category for sure...

I agree that Melo shouldn't get caught up in arguing with the Refs but I also think he get's HAMMERED on a lot of plays and they don't call it. You can't BREATHE on some players but Melo you're free to abuse and they only call it when it's ridiculously obvious that you can't let that contact go.

Still I would LOVE to see Melo play more of "Olympic Melo" in this offense. Use the motion and flow to take advantage of screens and take open jumpers more than the ISO looks. It just would make more sense to let your teammates help you get open. He does it sometimes but not enough. If I was the coach i'd point that out and call for more screens rather than ISO looks even tho it's also part of the offense to create those looks, so let's not forget that.

this is one of your better posts, nixluva. one observation, though: melo initiates contact more than most.

The one play that drove me completely nuts about Melo last night late in game at critical'ish juncture: Knicks grab a fairly easy rebound and Melo, rebounder, Grant are all next to each other (I think this is how it went down, situation could have just been Melo rebounding ball, wish I remembered correctly). Spurs had already backed up and retreated to other end of court, so did rest of Knicks, so no fast break possibility. Grant is waiting to get ball to dribble up court but Melo is also calling for it. Rebounder hesitates and gives ball to Melo, Grant still waiting and looking at Melo, wanting ball to dribble up court. Melo, looks Grant off, dribbles slowly up court. Dances around 3 point line, waits, shoots. Misses. Kills momentum.

Why? Why does Melo consistently want to waste energy and dribble ball up court and kill a good flow? Grant is a ninja at pushing ball and making good enough decisions on the move.

Do you mean in the 4th are because the play happened a little different than you described.

I think 4th, I'm a little fuzzy on details but I think the gist of it was the same.

dk7th wrote:see this is an example of a lack of counterpunching: melo has the best small forward defender in the league guarding him and not only does he shoot a miserable 4-17 with merely two assists, but instead of working the ball like he did the prior game, he falls into his worst tendencies, represented by the fact that he had a respectable usage rate of 29.2% but an execrable assist rate of 10.2%, for a 3:1 ratio. if he is not looking to pass the ball more even when he knows they are keying on him, then he HAS TO find ways to make plays for others or simply make crisp passes and rely on teammates to make plays and score instead.

again, fisher's postgame comments addressed this issue in a very roundabout way, almost speaking in code about it. if i can find the interview at some point i will post it, or transliterate it.

He plays the game with no appreciation for team work, at the end of the day it's still just about Melo. He also doesn't seem to read and adjust to the game once the game has started, it's like he comes in with a preconceived notion every game and sticks to it. The preconceived notion may sometimes be different game to game but he has no capability at all of changing it or recognizing that other teams are exploiting his weakness.