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mreinman
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10/23/2015  10:40 AM
blkexec wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
blkexec wrote:Now back to this thread. I believe melo will struggle at SF these season as we saw in the game yesterday. The reason melo had his best years at PF because its a mismatch in his favor. And as you get older you want to put your star players in mismatch situations.

SF guys in the league today are similar to melo in size and strength. ...plus they are younger. Thats not an advantage for him. Thats when he takes it personal and shoots 4-18.....This is why i said Fisher is the key to our success. He puts the players in positions to succeed. I dont like melo at SF.....i dont like KP at PF. And Rolo should eventually come off the bench.

Will Fisher have the balls to make these decisions. ...no....so we will basically tread water all year killing ourselves with bad matchups and unbalanced substitutions. Melo is a superstar when he has the right coach and team around him. When he doesnt hes very frustrating to watch.

Thing is blkexec, if Melo can't post and toast 6'6 Jae Crowder, how will he post and toast 6'10 Blake Griffin who's his superior in every way?

You can't go back into that small ball well, that's not how the Knicks were constructed.

Rolo at center is not small ball...and 6'6 Crowder is younger, stronger, and quicker....sometimes its not about melos bad game.....its Crowders good defensive game.

Melo does take this personal and starts jacking to force his will on a better defender.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/23/2015  10:44 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
blkexec wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
blkexec wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.
seems like? This thread is that reality. Guy finishes a great preseason, shoots 47% overall, shows leadership, brings guys together in the offseason, has one bad shooting game and its fat clown and this is bad Melo. These guys are human... unlike many of the posters here who dont understand that pro athletes are actually people and not stat producing robots. Nothing really new here

Tell that to Jae Crowder and the Celtics. They played last night like it was a playoff game.

4-18 with only 1 assist is inexcusable on the playground, youth basketball, high school, college, AAU, NBDL, FIBA, Olympics, Eurocup, Asia Cup...

Only saving grace is that it's preseason game number 6.

Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade, and stop sugar coating and dik riding.

He played like shyt. Period.


So on good games hes skinny and fast.

WHOA WHOA...pump the brakes there guy!

If you agree with a poster that says melo is a fat clown and slow..after a bad game. Then you have to agree with the opposite. Be careful who you agree with. Im not a melo hater but im also not going to call a top 5 scorer in the nba over his 10 plus yr career.....a fat slow clown after 1 preseason game. That kind of hatred was waiting for the right opportunity to show its ugly head.

Fat maybe exaggerated....okay maybe soft tissue, not hard muscle tone athlete like his contemporaries. He's not in supreme cardio shape either. It's always why he takes breaks on the defensive end, because you expend more energy defending someone than doing your jab step routine.

Slow...yep. He's always had a good first step, especially during his Denver years, when he would post, spin around baseline and jam it without touching the rim. First step yes...but he's never been quick or fast his whole career. 31 years and 13th season...yea, father time is licking his chops with Melo.

3 blocks and a steal. Yep, sounds like a fat, soft tissue, flaccid DOUCHE. Got it.

How bout shooting 47% through this meaningless preseason? All wiped out by one sheehit game right?


Go find a FireWoodson thread to post in.

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10/23/2015  10:48 AM
jrodmc wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
blkexec wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
blkexec wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.
seems like? This thread is that reality. Guy finishes a great preseason, shoots 47% overall, shows leadership, brings guys together in the offseason, has one bad shooting game and its fat clown and this is bad Melo. These guys are human... unlike many of the posters here who dont understand that pro athletes are actually people and not stat producing robots. Nothing really new here

Tell that to Jae Crowder and the Celtics. They played last night like it was a playoff game.

4-18 with only 1 assist is inexcusable on the playground, youth basketball, high school, college, AAU, NBDL, FIBA, Olympics, Eurocup, Asia Cup...

Only saving grace is that it's preseason game number 6.

Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade, and stop sugar coating and dik riding.

He played like shyt. Period.


So on good games hes skinny and fast.

WHOA WHOA...pump the brakes there guy!

If you agree with a poster that says melo is a fat clown and slow..after a bad game. Then you have to agree with the opposite. Be careful who you agree with. Im not a melo hater but im also not going to call a top 5 scorer in the nba over his 10 plus yr career.....a fat slow clown after 1 preseason game. That kind of hatred was waiting for the right opportunity to show its ugly head.

Fat maybe exaggerated....okay maybe soft tissue, not hard muscle tone athlete like his contemporaries. He's not in supreme cardio shape either. It's always why he takes breaks on the defensive end, because you expend more energy defending someone than doing your jab step routine.

Slow...yep. He's always had a good first step, especially during his Denver years, when he would post, spin around baseline and jam it without touching the rim. First step yes...but he's never been quick or fast his whole career. 31 years and 13th season...yea, father time is licking his chops with Melo.

3 blocks and a steal. Yep, sounds like a fat, soft tissue, flaccid DOUCHE. Got it.

How bout shooting 47% through this meaningless preseason? All wiped out by one sheehit game right?


Go find a FireWoodson thread to post in.

LOL Jrodmc, I hope you have the same passion displayed in this comment for when he does put up stinkers in the regular season.

Can't always have your rose tinted Aviators on all the time.

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10/23/2015  11:51 AM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:He was consistently trying on defense which is nice but he hasn't changed a bit. His shot selection was atrocious in this game.

agreed. 1 assists and 4-18? Can't he create to pass ever?

Not every scorer has the IQ and instincts to make the right play. Being an elite scorer that draws the attention of the defense doesn't automatically mean the Aother aspects of the game comes easily for you. That's what makes superstars like Lebron, Wade and Kobe(when he feels like making easy plays for others) special

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10/23/2015  12:02 PM
Get ready for Melo to have lots of 4 for 18 games when Jose can't not create open looks for his teammates ... It's grants time to create open looks for Melo then we will rarely see 4 for 18 games from Melo
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10/23/2015  12:15 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Get ready for Melo to have lots of 4 for 18 games when Jose can't not create open looks for his teammates ... It's grants time to create open looks for Melo then we will rarely see 4 for 18 games from Melo

Calderon was brought here to be that Jason Kidd floor leader type who would take the decision making out of Melo's hands. The Anti-Felton who has the PG vision and floor leadership to make the right plays and be a floor leader. But that hasn't worked out too well. I really hope Grant is the answer. I like what I've seen out of him so far as a true floor general but it's his first year

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10/23/2015  1:38 PM
I would be fine if he had 4-18 games here and there as long as it comes with at least 5-6 assists.

forcing shots when a guy like crowder is all over you is just a mocho silly move.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/23/2015  1:42 PM
mreinman wrote:I would be fine if he had 4-18 games here and there as long as it comes with at least 5-6 assists.

forcing shots when a guy like crowder is all over you is just a mocho silly move.

That's been Melo's achilles heel forever...not just last night, but his entire 13 year career.

When he's not going well offensively, he doesn't do anything else to impact the game.

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10/23/2015  2:40 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
mreinman wrote:I would be fine if he had 4-18 games here and there as long as it comes with at least 5-6 assists.

forcing shots when a guy like crowder is all over you is just a mocho silly move.

That's been Melo's achilles heel forever...not just last night, but his entire 13 year career.

When he's not going well offensively, he doesn't do anything else to impact the game.

right but now he wants and is welcoming coaches critiques, no?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/23/2015  3:59 PM
mreinman wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
mreinman wrote:I would be fine if he had 4-18 games here and there as long as it comes with at least 5-6 assists.

forcing shots when a guy like crowder is all over you is just a mocho silly move.

That's been Melo's achilles heel forever...not just last night, but his entire 13 year career.

When he's not going well offensively, he doesn't do anything else to impact the game.

right but now he wants and is welcoming coaches critiques, no?

Yup! The 12 years prior that he got reprimanded don't count.

Especially the 8 formative years George Karl spat in his face repeatedly to try to get through to him.

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10/23/2015  9:06 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Get ready for Melo to have lots of 4 for 18 games when Jose can't not create open looks for his teammates ... It's grants time to create open looks for Melo then we will rarely see 4 for 18 games from Melo

Jose was fine in this game and he pass the ball to Melo... and then Melo just turn into black hole every single time.
He had some good looks he miss... but some were just offense flow breaking plays.
But this is preseason - everything starts with 1st season game...
I would give Melo fresh start as I always do. Will see soon what he got.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
Melo has a bad game and was off

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