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holfresh
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10/19/2015  11:11 AM
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holfresh wrote:Report: Odom starting physical therapy

Former NBA star Lamar Odom has shown "marked improvement" and has started physical therapy, multiple sources told the LA Daily News. Odom will begin physical therapy to see if he can walk, but his "breathing, vision and the ability to have simple conversations" has improved, the sources told the paper.

this episode may be the best think that ever happened to him. I definitely see him becoming an advocate for future addicts and people with debilitating depression.

I hope so... Seems like so many people are drawn to him and he seems like a genuinely nice guy...I hope he can use this episode for good...

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10/19/2015  11:46 AM
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:Report: Odom starting physical therapy

Former NBA star Lamar Odom has shown "marked improvement" and has started physical therapy, multiple sources told the LA Daily News. Odom will begin physical therapy to see if he can walk, but his "breathing, vision and the ability to have simple conversations" has improved, the sources told the paper.

this episode may be the best think that ever happened to him. I definitely see him becoming an advocate for future addicts and people with debilitating depression.

I hope so... Seems like so many people are drawn to him and he seems like a genuinely nice guy...I hope he can use this episode for good...

Seems like he has a higher purpose in life, and his story doesn't end like this. I'm sure he's already touch several people with similar issues, without even knowing it. Just wait until espn and the media brings him in for 1000 Q & A discussions.

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10/20/2015  11:52 AM
Those of you who know classical mythology will know this scene and how it applies to Odom,

Ulysses and the Sirens


What you guys are all overlooking are the long and clutching arms of the Kardassians, who feed on this kind of publicity and human melodrama. As long as Odom is caught in their web his welfare will always be at risk, IMO, and if any of his problems are related to how he was portrayed or talked about on their show, you can be pretty sure that there will be a recurrence.

What he really needs is a set of friends/support group who are going to be honest with him and not try to exploit his tragedy or pander to his weaknesses. He needs people who are going to "tie him to the mast" and protect him from the Kadassian clan and everything they stand for.

I wish he had decided to give the Knicks a chance when Phil reached out to him- the team we have now would have been a good group for him to be associated with.

He has a chance to start over, but if he does not cut ties with the silicon/collagen injected and surgically sculpted bodies of the Kardassians, I'm not going to spend much time thinking/worrying about the guy.


Yes...I understand that this article is from the NY Post, and many of the sources are unnamed, but you get the sense that it is speaking the truth. A long article, but revealing, IMO.

How the Kardashians exploit and destroy for reality ratings
By Maureen Callahan

As former NBA star Lamar Odom clings to life in a Las Vegas hospital, his soon-to-be ex-wife Khloé Kardashian and her clan have done what they do best: make the story all about them.

Before the Kardashians even made it to the hospital, there was no dignity here. Odom was found on Tuesday unconscious and face down in a Nevada brothel, choking on his own mucus, with damage to his lungs from crack cocaine and track marks on his arm. He’d spent four days and $75,000 there, in a grim whorehouse that most closely resembles a Marriott.

By all accounts, Odom was extremely depressed and out of it, gorging on KFC and T-bone steaks, three at a time. He had to be transported to the nearest hospital by ambulance; he was too large to be airlifted.

Within hours of Odom’s hospitalization, Khloé, Kris and seven-months-pregnant Kim had hopped on a private plane. According to Radar Online, they had a camera crew in tow. (The 11th season of “Keeping Up With the Kardashians,” filming now, premieres next month.) Caitlyn Jenner was en route.

By early Wednesday, media outlets such as TMZ, Radar, People, Us Weekly, E! (home of their reality show) and “Entertainment Tonight” suddenly had real-time updates and unobstructed views of matriarch Kris and her daughters outside the hospital, dressed in designer black dresses as if they were all widowed first ladies, straining to show distress on perfectly made-up, Botoxed faces.
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Kris Jenner and Kim Kardashian leave Sunrise Hospital.Photo: Getty Images

The Kardashians let it be known that they “dropped everything” when they heard of Odom’s collapse, as if this were a heroic response rather than a merely decent one. In Khloé’s case, she’d been on a lingerie shoot. In little sister Kylie’s case, she’d been on a Web stream. “I love you guys,” she tweeted. The next day, Kylie donned a tight, strapless two-piece and went to the mall. Paparazzi just happened to be there.

Model sister Kendall was flying in from Shanghai Fashion Week. “Please don’t go,” she tweeted. Kim publicly canceled the baby shower she’d planned for this weekend, letting the world know, by the way, that she would have had a “Troop Beverly Hills” theme.


“It’s a s- -t show,” an unnamed source said. “The Kardashians are trying to run everything. They walked into the hospital with cameras rolling. It was shocking, but hardly a surprise … They are all crying and pretending like they care.”

The Kardashians denied they had a camera crew in the hospital, but either way, wanna bet they’re secretly filming with their iPhones? This is a family that commodifies everything, from sex tapes to fertility treatments to Caitlyn Jenner’s transition. People in their orbit are mere utility players — including Odom, who has never been more valuable to them than now.

Odom, 35, and Khloé, 31, filed for divorce in 2013, but he remained an ­unwilling, off-screen character on the show. He reportedly begged his ­estranged wife to stop airing his phone calls and to stop using him as a plot point, but she refused.

“She would tell him, ‘You owe me this after you humiliated me by cheating with other women,’” a source told Radar.

It was reported that Odom became extremely upset last Sunday night after an episode aired in which Khloé once again humiliated her husband. Odom’s best friend had died of drug-related causes, and he’d called Khloé for consolation. She then self-servingly told the cameras that “I’m really on high alert for Lamar because anything, I think, will cause him to spiral and that’s really the last thing I want for him.”

Later in that same episode, Khloé said “my heart dropped to my stomach” when she heard that Odom might have shown up at one of her paid nightclub appearances. Her sister Kim told cameras that the idea of Khloé still talking to Odom “makes me sick.”

Reports from those with Odom on Sunday night said he was “irate” and “inconsolable” after the episode aired.

“He kept saying he was better than the Kardashians and ‘f–k them,’ ” a source told The Daily Mail. “He said all they had ever done for him was exploit him for the show. He went through ­every one of them — Kim, Kris, Caitlyn . . . He felt chewed up and spat out.”

The source added Odom suspected Kris Jenner manipulated Khloé into leaving him for plot purposes. “Now he feels they’re using him to boost the show’s ratings,” the source said.

“Lamar had no idea he was going to be Khloé’s storyline during the past season,” another source told Radar. “She’s always talking about how much she loves the guy, but has no problem exploiting Lamar for her gain. How low can Khloé go? Lamar would call her about losing his best friend this past summer, and the first thing she thinks is to document it?”

The Kardashians, said the source, “have blood on their hands.”


It’s a well-established pattern of abusive behavior for the Kardashians, who have built a $100 million empire on mining their lives — while shamelessly exploiting others — for entertainment.

Odom — who once confessed to the LA Times that, emotionally, “I consider myself a little weak” — was no match for a family who casually and consistently leaves human wreckage in their wake.

Odom met Khloé at a party in 2009, and they were married one month later in an outlandish ceremony filmed for the show. Kelly Osbourne was there. Babyface sang.

It became the Kardashians’ highest-rated episode ever, with 3.2 million viewers, and suddenly, NBA star Lamar Odom had a supporting role on a trashy reality show.

Initially he was on board. “As an athlete, you’ve got to take advantage of opportunities,” he told Fox Sports. “When the ball stops bouncing, it stops bouncing.”

In 2011, E! gave the couple a spin-off called “Khloé & Lamar.” He was alternately depicted as a gentle soul who’d found peace with his new family and as a probable drug addict who went missing for days at a time.

That same year, Odom’s fellow NBA star Kris Humphries was sucked into the Kardashian vortex, marrying Kim after a 90-day engagement. Kim made an estimated $2 million off the wedding alone.

Their ceremony aired as a two-part special on Oct. 9 and 10.

On Oct. 31, Kim filed for divorce. Kris learned about it on the news.

“After careful consideration,” Kim’s statement read, “I have decided to end my marriage … sometimes things don’t work out as planned.”

A friend told Radar Online that one month later, Humphries watched “in utter horror” as he was depicted on the show as a bully who’d used Kim for her fame. “It’s just not a true depiction.”

Kim villainized Humphries off-air as well, leaking to TMZ that he was a “cancer” and a “manipulative, vindictive, petty, fame-hungry jerk.”

Humphries was vindicated during their divorce proceedings, when show producer Russell Jay testified that much of it was fake — but only the Kardashians were in on it.
Staged love

Jay said that during Humphries’ season, at least two scenes were staged: the wedding proposal, which was reshot because Kim “didn’t like how her face looked in the first take,” and a scene in which Kim confessed doubts about her marriage to her mother — which was shot after Kim filed for divorce.
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Kris Humphries and Kim Kardashian walk a red carpet in 2011.Photo: Getty Images

“They set Kris [Humphries] up to look like a jerk,” a friend told Radar Online. “Anyone who loves someone would not team up with their production team to make them look like a fool on TV.”

Rob Kardashian, the only boy in the family, understands. He quit filming in 2014 and spent the rest of the year getting publicly fat-shamed and sidelined by his mother and sister Kim.

“Rob is fatter than ever, and Kris ­finally flat-out told him he’s an embarrassment to the family,” a source told Star magazine in February 2014. “She called him a fat slob and told him he’s losing out on business opportunities because no one wants someone as huge as him representing their products.”

“Rob feels that the show has truly ­ruined his family,” a source told Radar that same month. “He feels very alone.”

In May 2014, Rob flew back from Paris without having attended Kim’s lavish wedding to Kanye West — reportedly because Kim told him he was too fat and ugly for the wedding pictures. She also told Rolling Stone that Rob’s weight gain was due to sloth.


“Do I think he smokes weed, drinks beer, hangs out and plays video games with his friends all day long?” she asked. “Yes.”

No wonder Kylie Jenner got with the program, literally and figuratively. When she was just 17 years old, Kylie had filler injected into her formerly thin lips, along with a likely browlift and filler in the lines around her mouth. And she began dating 25-year-old rapper Tyga. Both moves were heartily endorsed by her mother, and Kylie’s on her way to becoming a brand: Various endorsements, along with her line of hair extensions, Kylie Hair Kouture, have helped her reach a reported net worth of $5 million.

Meanwhile, sister Kourtney — who at 36 is the eldest and dullest of the clan — uses her tumultuous relationship with cheating, jobless, substance-abusing boyfriend Scott Disick as her storyline.

Disick, 32, the father of Kourtney’s three young children, is most often seen black-out drunk on the show. The couple’s umpteenth break-up was the major plot line for the Season 10 finale.

Disick remained off-screen while Kris called him “a piece of s–t.” In the show’s last scene — the cliff-hanger — Kourtney cried to an impassive Kim: “I can’t believe that this is where my life is right now.”

The Kardashians also move their narrative along through the tabloids, and last week the Kardashian camp issued a threat to ­Disick through US Weekly.

“He’s no longer filming,” a family friend told the magazine. “He doesn’t have a job anymore,” and without the show, “his club appearances will die down within a year. He’ll lose the social-media influence. The Kardashians are all evolving in their platforms and he’s no longer in step with them.”

In other words: Get back with Kourtney and get back to work.


In the weeks leading up to Odom’s overdose, he’d once again felt publicly humiliated by the Kardashians. He’d approached Khloé outside a Beverly Hills SoulCycle at 6:45 in the morning — caught by paparazzi, of course. The Kardashian camp spun the ­incident as stalking.

Odom, however, insisted that Khloé had told him where she was going to be and set him up. He fought back through TMZ: “Y’all beat me down, degraded me, said I would do everything in the world. I’m a womanizer, a f–king drug addict, everything. I probably couldn’t even get f–king hired at Home Depot right now because of how people look at me. It’s over . . . if it happens again, I will air everything out.”

Khloé, it turns out, is making all medical decisions for Odom; though they filed for divorce, a judge hasn’t signed off on their papers. On Wednesday, Khloé instructed her publicist to tell Dennis Hof, owner of the brothel where Odom was found, to quit talking to the media — that’s Khloé’s job.

“I told her to pass on a message: Go to hell,” Hof told CNN.

“This is a very painful situation,” Khloé’s publicist responded, “and the idea that anyone would use it to seek publicity is really sad.”

Meanwhile, the leaks keep on coming, and they’re all about how Odom’s tragedy is affecting the Kardashians: Scott Disick checked into rehab this past week. People magazine was told exclusively that “it’s hard for Khloé. He is on his last leg.” And Kim had to fly back to LA because she has health issues, too, you guys.

“We’re told Kim has an appointment with a pregnancy specialist,” TMZ reported on Thursday. “Her placenta is growing too deep into her uterus.”

And so Lamar Odom’s fight for life competes with Kim Kardashian’s vagina for attention — which, in Kardashian world, is the way it should be.

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10/20/2015  11:59 AM
walt, the kardashians are certainly a big part of the problem. He needs to get far away from them but now, I think they will not let him go due to all the new publicity.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/20/2015  12:11 PM
kardashians are a blight on our society. Wretched humans beings. Leeching scum
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10/20/2015  12:20 PM
mreinman wrote:walt, the kardashians are certainly a big part of the problem. He needs to get far away from them but now, I think they will not let him go due to all the new publicity.

Unfortunately true, I think.

The only silver lining is that his wife seemed upset with his substance abuse, which seems to be his Achilles heel. I just wonder if he can keep his sanity if he remains in their circle.

I've never watched their show, but it is impossible not to see what goes on within the Cult of Kardassian, and it looks like the guys associated with them, except for West, (Whose ego and self-confidence have seemed to keep him immune so far.) take a beating, and in the case of Bruce Jenner, are emasculated.

Hopefully things work out for him.

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10/24/2015  4:31 PM
LOS ANGELES -- Lamar Odom is believed to have overdosed on cocaine and other drugs before he was found unconscious in a Nevada brothel, according to search warrant records.
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10/26/2015  3:49 PM
fishmike wrote:kardashians are a blight on our society. Wretched humans beings. Leeching scum

You're right... But the millions and millions that follow them and love them and support them through thick and thin are just as bad. This is ugly. Lamar needs peace and quiet and time for recovery and therapy. Not this $hit show.

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10/26/2015  5:01 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
fishmike wrote:kardashians are a blight on our society. Wretched humans beings. Leeching scum

You're right... But the millions and millions that follow them and love them and support them through thick and thin are just as bad. This is ugly. Lamar needs peace and quiet and time for recovery and therapy. Not this $hit show.


No simple exit for Lamar once he got snared in the Kardassian web.

At some point, given the short attention span Americans have when it comes to "the past," Odom will be identified as the guy on the Kardassian show who was once an NBA player, and not a former NBA star who got involved with America's first family.

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10/26/2015  5:15 PM
Usually spending $75 grand on hookers and drugs DON'T win your women back.

Kloe is reconciling with Lamar. That's messed up.

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