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Do we have one of the best front courts in the league?
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93BUICK
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10/6/2015  7:45 PM
CrushAlot wrote:It sounds like Kristaps is starting tomorrow with Rolo and Melo.

I LIKE that!
If they think it's ok so do I-
KP is a good team minded guy already as a kid-

Jose
Afflack
Melo
KP
Rolo

Then the proud young skilled scrapping 2nd unit - all talented guys with something to gain-
J Grant
L Galloway
D W
Quinn
Seraphin

I can SEE it and believe it. 43 wins.

Eny to answer your question- No but a very good, varied, hard playing Bunch - if KP dominates ahead of schedule yes.

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10/6/2015  8:47 PM
blkexec wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
martin wrote:
blkexec wrote:
martin wrote:I love the upside potential of the bigs on the Knicks, especially considering their ages.

I don't know too much about Seraphin but the praise I am reading is interesting. Wish he was on the Knicks under a multi-year deal.

I live in Maryland, so I've seen and heard about Seraphin more than most knick fans. I've also met him in person. His biggest issue is he has the skills to be a starter, and he's always trying to prove it, when he comes in the game. The problem with that he tends to play outside of the team system / strategy. He's a great two way player. But I don't think he's 6'10 without shoes. So when he goes up against taller centers, he has a difficult time. But he's a great help defender and blind side shotblocker. The problem is he wants to be a scorer as well, so he just needs to figure out what we need and how he can impact. I believe his best position is PF.....eventhough he can play center, whenever we play small ball. Thats the other problem. This might sound strange, but I think we have too much flexibility, which makes Fisher the weak link. Can he put Seraphin and others in the right positions to succeed? We have 9 PF's that can either play SF or Center. Thats great for a veteran coach. But for a young coach, it's almost easier if everybody has a defined role, like GS has.

I like a starting rotation of: Lopez, Seraphin, Melo, AA, Grant/Jose. You have 2 post players in Melo and Seraphin, solid front court, shooters to space on the wings.

OQuinn, KP, DWill, Gallo, Grant/Jose as a second unit is decent too.

My gut feeling is that a frontline of Lopez, Seraphin, and Melo would work OK on offense, but I'm not sure Seraphin is a guy you want guarding someone on the perimeter. I like having "power" in a power forward, but they also have to guard quicker PFs these days, so you need a versatile player at the position.

Not even sure how O'Quinn does as a defender against quicker PFs. KP, Williams, and Anthony, if you want him there, are quick enough to guard some of the faster PFs.

I have no issue with situational starters...not sure how common it is, or has been, though.

I believe our strength is also our weakness. Having situational starters is a blessing and a curse. We need stability. And if players are yanked in and out of the lineup, we will never obtain any consistency in player performance. I think with this team, while waiting for KP to develop, we may have to do situational starters. But a groomed KP is really the answer to our problems. I believe Lopez, KP, Melo is our best front court combination. But thats not going to sit well with Seraphin, since he's kicking and scratching to be a starter. Whoever starts at PF this first game will have the upper hand.


I think O'Quinn likely realizes that KP has the most upside and versatility. KP simply fits better next to Melo, since he can shoot from anywhere. KP also has the defensive presence as well which along with RoLo could be pretty awesome. It's gonna be pretty exciting to watch.
gunsnewing
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10/6/2015  8:52 PM
Serafin is back up PF
O is back up C

If one of the 2 suck he will be not be a part of the regular rotation. I think both will play well but I'd say O is more likely to see fewer minutes or be out of the roation. Nice to have young front court depth unlike the 54 win season

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10/7/2015  12:02 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:Most interesting front court we've had in a long time, and it's a pretty young group.

We should not get outmuscled very often, and I'm looking forward to seeing if we can bully some of the smaller lineups we face.

Seems to me that we have a lot of flexibility in the front court, and should be able to match up with most lineups thrown at us.

Not sure it is one of the best in the league, but it gives me a lot of optimism.

With this bunch of guys, I'm looking for a decided rebound advantage, as well as increased defensive pressure in the paint. We've just gotta have better outcomes than Amar'e, Bargs and Jason Smith patrolling the paint and crashing the boards.

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10/7/2015  8:32 AM
should start KP in his MSG debut!!! Let the kid get the rush of hearing his name called and the cheers.
Hopefully its the start of a very long run for him.

Let him look up at the retired legends numbers that honor the past greats and visualize his name up there along with a few championship banners as well!

As far as the regular season goes, lets see how he does going forward.

blkexec
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10/7/2015  8:58 AM
Nalod wrote:should start KP in his MSG debut!!! Let the kid get the rush of hearing his name called and the cheers.
Hopefully its the start of a very long run for him.

Let him look up at the retired legends numbers that honor the past greats and visualize his name up there along with a few championship banners as well!

As far as the regular season goes, lets see how he does going forward.

Also, starting KP gives the fans more chances to make it up to him for the boos on draft day. Eventhough coming off the bench would bring a loud ovation, and give KP intance chills. A reverse reaction from draft day.

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10/7/2015  12:27 PM
93BUICK wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:It sounds like Kristaps is starting tomorrow with Rolo and Melo.

I LIKE that!
If they think it's ok so do I-
KP is a good team minded guy already as a kid-

Jose
Afflack
Melo
KP
Rolo

Then the proud young skilled scrapping 2nd unit - all talented guys with something to gain-
J Grant
L Galloway
D W
Quinn
Seraphin

I can SEE it and believe it. 43 wins.

Eny to answer your question- No but a very good, varied, hard playing Bunch - if KP dominates ahead of schedule yes.

Aflac's hurt; not playing tonight. I think you see Langston starting next to Jose. Doubt they're going to start two rookies on opening night.
KP and Rolo on either side of the rim. I like that idea at both ends of court. Plus KP has to start, this is an International team we're going to trounce! He's got experience!

Do we have one of the best front courts in the league?

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