BRIGGS wrote:blkexec wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:EnySpree wrote:Knicks front court will be their strength. Also their back court is full of sharp shooting vets with high Basketball IQ. It's a good mix for what we are trying to do. I don't think enough is said about these facts. The real test will be how well the guys gel. Training camp is going to be huge. I absolutely can't wait.
I have some degree of comfort with how fast this group can come together. I think it helps that they have added smart players. Also Melo, Jose, Gallo, Early in particular are coming in with some feel for the system already and for practice LT and LA are gonna be helpful for instruction. Jerian Looked VERY comfortable in running the system this summer.
I think Fish tweaked the system just enough to make it a bit easier for the new players. Adding the Drag Screens last year really does help to keep things from being stagnant and predictable. It allows for more PG activity along with PnR bigs, which should be great for RoLo. So the beginning of the offense is pretty standard NBA stuff before they settle into the Triangle if there's no scoring opportunity early in the clock.
Taking in isolation the new team Knicks will field looks OK.
But this is NBA so the only thing that will matter is how they will be able to compete with established teams in the conference and beyond.
It will take some time to learn the system and each other. Ruks will be as all ruks. They will struggle and will hit the walls.
Injuries will be surely a factor. Fisher need to learn his craft too and show that he belongs.
To many things have to come together to get to 35-40 wins... 25-30 are more realistic numbers
I understand that things will have to come together, but this isn't a team that is totally starting from scratch, plus the more skilled and high IQ you're players are you will have fewer issues developing some chemistry. A lot of the struggles teams have is not having good floor leadership. We should have solid play from our guards this year unlike the start of last year.As for the Rookies that's always a factor for every team that adds a drafted player. Doesn't mean that the Rookie will have an outsized impact. Last year we had to rely on virtual Rookie Shane Larkin at the start of the year. There's is no version of him on this roster this year. Jerian is NOTHING like Larkin. While he'll have some adjustments he's not a typical rookie. Jerian will be 23 when the season starts and he's a well rounded and intelligent player.
KP has a lot to learn, but he has actually played pro ball. He's got NBA skills already and a very good instinctual feel for the game. He will have some struggles to be sure, but he should be able to contribute and will be surrounded by vets. We aren't going to be stuck relying on KP.
As for Fisher. He's a young coach but I don't see him being a detriment to the team's success this season. 95% of what is going to happen will be in the hands of the players being able to execute on both ends. Fisher and his staff will have the team prepared but it's mostly about the players ability to execute. Who are we expecting to fail to execute at the top of this rotation? Melo? RoLo? Afflalo? Jose? O'Quinn? These are NBA vets who have solid production. IMO as long as this team is competitive with it's Starting Lineup they should be in the mix for a playoff spot.
Because the Knicks were so bad last year there's a tendency to overrate the rest of the East. Only 5 of the teams in the East were above .500. That may change this year but still doesn't make the East impossible for the Knicks to compete for a playoff spot.
I look at it this way if melo is a franchise player this team should be capable of close to 50 wins. We've added 4 legit frontcourt players a secondary scorer and depth over the place. LeBron made it to the finals with much much less. As a fan I want to be good right away and we should be without excuse
If you add any nba franchise player that ever played the game to a 17 win team......they would never win 50 games. It's obvious franchise players surrounded by bums can not lead their team far. Especially in today's nba. Leading your team to sneak into the playoffs does not require 50 wins.
We're not just adding a franchise player were adding three vet nba frontcourt player a n nba secondary scored two first picks one of which could've been pick 1 This is not just adding Carmelo back to a bunch of shy ty players we spent a hundred million dollars
Why can't the Knicks be competitive? Look at the Wiz. They lost Pierce and we took Seraphin. Once you get past their top 4 guys none of those other guys are scaring anyone. The Knicks should be able to compete with many of the teams in the East. They have the advantage of playing with each other longer, but the Knicks do have a shot, especially if some of these new additions perform better with an increase role as we expect they can.
Kyle and Seraphin in particular could be more productive. DWill is not a lock but he does have upside which if he can find his game in this style he can be a boost as well. Then you have KP and Jerian who have a ton of talent. No guarantees but there is the potential on this roster. I'm not seeing an outclassed Knicks team here.
PLAYER GP GS MIN PPG PLAYER GP GS MIN PPG
John Wall, PG 79 79 35.9 17.6 Carmelo Anthony, SF 77 77 38.7 27.4
Bradley Beal, SG 63 59 33.4 15.3 Arron Afflalo, SG 73 73 35.0 18.2
Marcin Gortat, C 82 82 29.9 12.2 Robin Lopez, C 82 82 31.8 11.1
Nene Hilario, PF 67 58 25.3 11.0 Jose Calderon, PG 81 81 30.5 11.4
Will Bynum, PG 56 3 18.8 8.7 Derrick Williams, PF 74 6 19.8 8.3
Kris Humphries, PF 64 17 21.0 8.0 Kyle O'Quinn, PF 51 17 16.2 5.8
Rasual Butler, SF 75 1 20.1 7.7 Kevin Seraphin, PF 79 0 15.6 6.6
Ramon Sessions, PG 28 3 19.5 7.4 Kristaps Porzingis
Otto Porter Jr., SF 74 13 19.4 6.0 Jerian Grant
