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GustavBahler
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8/18/2015  3:16 PM
Wow, didn't see this coming if its true. Memories of Crawford dribbling at the top of the arc for a few hours then jacking up a shot with someone in his face. That pretty much sums up the Jamal Crawford era in NY.

Jamal might not be the same player that he was as a Knick, but he still can quickly shoot a team into or out of a game. If the Knicks had a deeper squad things might be different. Wouldn't want to put too much trust in such a streaky player.

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8/18/2015  3:49 PM
If this somehow goes through, get ready see lots of these:

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8/18/2015  3:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/18/2015  4:06 PM
now that i think about it, crawford was brutal in the game 7 against the rocktets, reminded me of JR
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8/18/2015  3:59 PM
crzymdups wrote:Crawford for Calderon doesn't work under the cap, at least 1-for-1


Marks is always good with this stuff, and will do additional research and come back with an update, and apology, he realizes he did not have all the info when he said something or made a mistake.

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8/18/2015  4:07 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Crawford for Calderon doesn't work under the cap, at least 1-for-1


Marks is always good with this stuff, and will do additional research and come back with an update, and apology, he realizes he did not have all the info when he said something or made a mistake.

yeah, he's pretty good. i have to disagree with the notion that where there is smoke there is fire... often it means the teams discussed it, couldn't find a match and moved on.

i sort of doubt this trade would happen. i don't think it'd help the knicks much on the floor, but it'd be fun to have Jamal back and would give them another bonafide scoring option and guy who can make a big shot late in games, which is something a young team always needs.

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8/18/2015  4:07 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Crawford for Calderon doesn't work under the cap, at least 1-for-1


Marks is always good with this stuff, and will do additional research and come back with an update, and apology, he realizes he did not have all the info when he said something or made a mistake.


that seem pretty obvious as calderone make almost 2k more

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8/18/2015  4:12 PM
The Clippers have the assets to make it work they just have to include another player. They can use Dawson, Wilcox, or even a player who they still have bird rights on.

Matching salaries will not be that difficult but I doubt this trade is even on the table.

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8/18/2015  4:15 PM
Also, lets not forget that Crawford only has one year left and Calderon has two. So this would theritcally open up max space for next summer FA.
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8/18/2015  6:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/18/2015  6:11 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:If this somehow goes through, get ready see lots of these:

Exactly. This is basically every shot attempt the man takes. No way Phil would want a player like this. I wouldn't want to see this guy jacking shots like this either. Been there, done that. A good guy but he's all style, under 40% substance..I can't for the life of me see Phil being interested in Jamal Crawford. I could see him resigning on the spot if forced to bring this guy in...Again though, if we could turn Calderon into Jamal Crawford, shedding that final year of Calderon's salary, you do it. Just to be clear--that's what makes this deal appealing--the future cap savings--not that Craw's some savior that makes us a whole lot better. To get that amount of savings, I'd deal with it for a season, I'd even throw in a sweetener to make it happen.. Without Calderon included though (and yeah, I guess there would have to be a 3rd team involved)--there's no deal here, time to move on.

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8/18/2015  6:21 PM
Finestrg wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:If this somehow goes through, get ready see lots of these:

Exactly. This is basically every shot attempt the man takes. No way Phil would want a player like this. I wouldn't want to see this guy jacking shots like this either. Been there, done that. A good guy but he's all style, under 40% substance..I can't for the life of me see Phil being interested in Jamal Crawford. I could see him resigning on the spot if forced to bring this guy in...Again though, if we could turn Calderon into Jamal Crawford, shedding that final year of Calderon's salary, you do it. Just to be clear--that's what makes this deal appealing--the future cap savings--not that Craw's some savior that makes us a whole lot better. To get that amount of savings, I'd deal with it for a season, I'd even throw in a sweetener to make it happen.. Without Calderon included though (and yeah, I guess there would have to be a 3rd team involved)--there's no deal here, time to move on.

+1 this sums it up perfectly.

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8/18/2015  7:21 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:If this somehow goes through, get ready see lots of these:

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8/18/2015  8:06 PM

Crawford travels twice, once at the beginning and once at the end. It's gross

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8/18/2015  8:16 PM
Crawford was meaningful once upon a time. We need bench points and we need scoring other than Melo and Afflalo.
While I cNt get too excited about Jamal at 35, I'd purge Calderon & 1 to get it done. Beats Sasha V and Robin and KP can help with penetrating guards.
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8/18/2015  8:42 PM
crzymdups wrote:Isola saying the Knicks still have the trade exception from the JR Smith trade? I thought they had to renounce that to get cap room? Anyone know?

The Knicks have expressed interest in acquiring Clippers guard Jamal Crawford, according to a source.

The Knicks would use the trade exception that they obtained from Cleveland in last year's J.R. Smith trade. Coincidentally, the Cavs are also pursuing a deal for Crawford, the 34 year old former Sixth Man of the Year. Miami is another team that is also interested in Crawford.

Smith opted out of the final year of his contract and remains unsigned. Crawford becomes an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

Crawford signed a free agent deal with the Knicks 11 years ago and was one of then-President Isiah Thomas' first signature moves. Crawford was eventually traded in Nov. 2008 to Golden State by Donnie Walsh as the Knicks began clearing cap space.

Crawford has maintained close ties with several high ranking officials in the organization, including Garden Chairman James Dolan and Thomas, who currently runs the Liberty.

Crawford has played for six teams over 15 seasons. He averaged 15.8 points in 64 games last season for the Clippers.

Other than Carmelo Anthony, the Knicks lack a proven scorer on their roster. Crawford has attempted 5,195 three-pointers in his career.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-interested-acquiring-clippers-guard-jamal-crawford-article-1.2329558?utm_content=bufferdcdbb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDNSports+Twitter


He's gonna end up in Cleveland but i'd love to get him.
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8/18/2015  8:56 PM
Is the Daily News the only source for this?


Crawford does not seem to be the kind of guy Phil wants, unless Fisher is pushing for him for some reason.

LA has Prigs and Austin Rivers, I suppose, as backup PGs, and seem to have enough SGs.


Which team would have initiated contact, if this rumor has wings?

Putting a lot of pressure on Grant and Galloway from the start if this potential trade was to include Calderon.


Unable to find any confirmation sources from the Twitter feeds I look at- everything refers to Isola.


From Hoops Rumors:

Players who signed new contracts are off-limits for a trade until at least December 15th, so the only Knicks eligible for inclusion in a deal for now are Carmelo Anthony, Jose Calderon, Langston Galloway and Cleanthony Early. Anthony, who has a no-trade clause, almost certainly wouldn’t be included. First-round picks Kristaps Porzingis and Jerian Grant become trade-eligible later this month, and the Knicks are allowed to trade draft-and-stash signee Thanasis Antetokounmpo as soon as early September.

Strange

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8/18/2015  9:09 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:Is the Daily News the only source for this?


Crawford does not seem to be the kind of guy Phil wants, unless Fisher is pushing for him for some reason.

LA has Prigs and Austin Rivers, I suppose, as backup PGs, and seem to have enough SGs.


Which team would have initiated contact, if this rumor has wings?

Putting a lot of pressure on Grant and Galloway from the start if this potential trade was to include Calderon.


Unable to find any confirmation sources from the Twitter feeds I look at- everything refers to Isola.


From Hoops Rumors:

Players who signed new contracts are off-limits for a trade until at least December 15th, so the only Knicks eligible for inclusion in a deal for now are Carmelo Anthony, Jose Calderon, Langston Galloway and Cleanthony Early. Anthony, who has a no-trade clause, almost certainly wouldn’t be included. First-round picks Kristaps Porzingis and Jerian Grant become trade-eligible later this month, and the Knicks are allowed to trade draft-and-stash signee Thanasis Antetokounmpo as soon as early September.

Strange

exactly, strange. Isola, who admittedly doesn't have too many Knicks contacts, is only reporting a "source" mentioned the Knicks may want Crawford, made a mistake on how the Knicks could possibly acquire him (re exception that wasn't), ignores the fact the Jamal is exactly the type of player Phil is not interested in, etc., etc.

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8/19/2015  7:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/19/2015  7:22 AM
mreinman wrote:lemme guess holfresh ... you want him here?

He has come a long way as far as maturity and basketball IQ. Alhe can handle the ball and make plays for himself and others now. He really improve his final 2yrs here and was another causality of the Lebron plan gone array. He I would have no issue with him as long as he is coming off the bench. We do not have enough bench scoring especially at guard. With Crawford, DW or KP we should have enough.

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8/19/2015  7:25 AM
Finestrg wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
crzymdups wrote:

Notice how Phil's name isn't mentioned here. This is about the furthest player I could see Phil wanting for his system. I don't like the fit either... Moving past that for a sec -- we're at the cap ceiling. Crawford makes $5.675mm -- any trade would have to match salary for the most part -- who do we give up to get him? Calderon + a sweetener for taking on Jose's extra (Early?), maybe I'd listen to something like that. I make this move to dump Jose's final year of his contract, not because I love Crawford and think we need him. I wonder if that's how the Knicks are looking at this if there's even any truth to the rumor..


This is all Phil...He needs a big guard who can handle the ball...He wants nice guys in the locker room...He needs vets that can handle NY...He needs another one on one guy outside of Melo when the triangle breaks down...

I don't think Phil would wanna touch Jamal Crawford with a 10 foot pole..

What part of his game doesn't fit with exactly with what Phil is doing?

He's a ball-dominant gunner with declining skills. Been there done that with JR Smith. Better handle than Smith but doesn't do much with that outside of trying to create his own shots--at least that's the player I remember. I see a player that will be taking shots away from other key players too, guys we're trying to find out about on that 2nd unit -- KP, D-Will, Grant, maybe an Early, Saunders, Thanasis. I'd rather see those guys divide up those shot attempts...But hey, if we can turn Jose Calderon into a Jamal Crawford expiring contract which could open up what, another $7.7+mm in salary next summer, you definitely take a look at that.

That was a long time ago

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8/19/2015  7:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/19/2015  8:01 AM
dk7th wrote:
TPercy wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TPercy wrote:So I guess the question is...
Would you like to see a Crawford for Caledron trade?

Yes. That I'd be interested in.

Do you think he could handle the role of the lead guard in the triangle? Doesn't strike me as a smart player at all.

NO!!!! he's one of the stoopidest players ever.

Dumbest

I was not a fan of his time here for the most part but if you go back to those threads you will see that a lot of knick fans warmed up to him towards the end. It was a bad team Isiah built. Lacked leadership from its star player. Sounds too familiar right? Towards the end Crawford started to lead. He was well liked by everyone in the organization, Smart guy off the court and never got into any trouble. A real class act.

So he still has episodes of chucking and one bad playoff series. So what? That's why he's be coming off the bench. If KP starts who is he going to steal shots from? O'Quinn, Serafin, DW, Sasha, Early, Thomas, Crawford, Calderon is not a bad bench. Assuming Calderon is still here he will compliment Crawford quite well in the 2nd unit.

We are a bit weak at SF but Melo is going to play 40mins just have to hope he can make it through his 13th season

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8/19/2015  7:43 AM
crzymdups wrote:I'm guessing the upshot of this whole "story" is that Jamal Crawford's agent wanted to get the word out there that Crawford was available and he used the Knicks beat/fans to amplify the signal. le sigh.

Sounds right. Happens every offseason

Knicks have expressed interest in acquiring JAMAL CRAWFORD

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