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8/6/2015  9:24 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:We need a true 6'6" wing player that can play both ends of the court. I don't know if this kid can ever be that guy. If one is available, we should trade thanasis

blah blah blah... called it and he will. this guy is probably the hungriest on the team. even beyond dwill and oquinn and the rooks.

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8/6/2015  9:43 AM
Good signing if they can develop him into a defensive specialist. A luxury good teams have. By the time we are ready to compete, he will be ready and if not they can cut him. Right now though he looks like a dog chasing a squirel. Kid needs to stay on his man and the concept of team help defense. Probably good to have him in team practice, garbage time sub and at the end of the season if we are not in a playoff chase. This kid is going to ride the pine this year.

Looks like Atkins and Saunders are headed to the D league where they will get minutes and develop.

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8/6/2015  9:47 AM
tj23 wrote:There are too many guys on this team that can't shoot or score for ****. We better D up and have great player and ball movement.

Memphis didnt have any shooters and they where in the western conference finals. If you compare player for player we actually have better shooters than them....if not its very close. We just lacking the big name players for the first time. Its a balanced blue collar team willing to get dirty. Thats what ny fans have craved for years since the 90s.

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8/6/2015  9:52 AM
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tj23 wrote:There are too many guys on this team that can't shoot or score for ****. We better D up and have great player and ball movement.

Memphis didnt have any shooters and they where in the western conference finals. If you compare player for player we actually have better shooters than them....if not its very close. We just lacking the big name players for the first time. Its a balanced blue collar team willing to get dirty. Thats what ny fans have craved for years since the 90s.

they have low post players, a great PG, play team ball, and play excellent defense.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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8/6/2015  9:54 AM
Come on decrepit poor homeless bum on the street version of Tony Allen and Draymond Green...you can do it Thanasis! Be our 3 and D guy! (in 2 years or before your first contract is up)

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8/6/2015  10:12 AM
TPercy wrote:That means
PG: Caledron, Jerian grant , vuajnic
SG:afflalo,Galloway,thanasis
sf: melo, early, Thomas
Pf:zinger;Amundson; derrick williams(I don't see anything that justifies williams being better than amundson)
C:Robin Lopez, Oquinn, Seraphin

I really love the way our center position looks;however, I will dread the day that vuajnic will end up playing Significant minutes as a point guard. I hope thanasis is in the gym as we speak working on his handles and his shot.

Switch Vujanic and Gallo cause Gallo can play the point.

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8/6/2015  10:14 AM
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newyorker4ever wrote:
TPercy wrote:
martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:I hope lance Thomas is traded so that we can get another guard.

so nice you posted something about Lance twice? He aint going anywhere any time soon.


That is Phil loss because this roster is full. We are a little short on point guards, and given caledrons process to injury it would be safe add another point guard. It is really funny how this wouldn't be an issue if we didn't rush to sign him in the first place.

But i don't think it is an issue with any of the Knicks FO. The issue is with some fans like you which doesn't matter.

Fans like me? You mean fans who express their concerns when they feel our front office has made a few questionable decisions? You mean fans who refuse to get on their knees for Phil Jackson and lick his balls no matter what move he makes even if it gets another disgraceful season, much like last season? You mean fans who like to see the reality in every situation rather than the optimism? I like fans like me.


Yep that's the fans i'm talking about. Lol
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8/6/2015  10:20 AM
wh4t wrote:Cleanthony Early can shoot and he improved his handle. I would place him as a shooting guard backup or 3rd string and move thanasis as a 3rd string small forward

RoLo/Kyle/Seraphin
Derrick/Krispy/Amundson
Melo/Thomas/Thanasis
Afflalo/Early/Vujacic
Grant/Calderon/Galloway

I can't see Early at the SG spot and I didn't see any improvements with him at all in the SL. Playing in SL and in the NBA is two whole different levels. He played great in the D-League last year when he was sent down for those 3 games but just didn't look like a NBA player when he was playing with us. I'm obviously still rooting for the kid just like I root for any player wearing the Knicks jersey but this will be his year that he'll have to show like he belongs or he might be done with us.

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8/6/2015  10:25 AM
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wh4t wrote:Cleanthony Early can shoot and he improved his handle. I would place him as a shooting guard backup or 3rd string and move thanasis as a 3rd string small forward

RoLo/Kyle/Seraphin
Derrick/Krispy/Amundson
Melo/Thomas/Thanasis
Afflalo/Early/Vujacic
Grant/Calderon/Galloway

Every player on the roster can play 2 positions. So we have all positions covered. Also i like your layout the best and think its pretty accurate. But the thought should now be on balancing the skill set. Do we have enough sharp shooters to keep people out of the paint? Hows our team IQ on defense?

We have a solid defensive lineup at all 5 positions. ...when was the last time we had that?


I'm excited to watch this team next year and think a lot of people are underestimating them because we didn't sign any "stars." Phil has done a great job in my eyes with the team he has put together. Now I know this isn't the finished product and that will hopefully come next summer but I really like what he's done so far.
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8/6/2015  10:32 AM
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blkexec wrote:
tj23 wrote:There are too many guys on this team that can't shoot or score for ****. We better D up and have great player and ball movement.

Memphis didnt have any shooters and they where in the western conference finals. If you compare player for player we actually have better shooters than them....if not its very close. We just lacking the big name players for the first time. Its a balanced blue collar team willing to get dirty. Thats what ny fans have craved for years since the 90s.

they have low post players, a great PG, play team ball, and play excellent defense.


Yeah they have some good players and their two big guys in Gasol and Randolph are both beasts down low and their core has been together for a few years so they have chemistry which is a big thing. Our biggest problem will actually be our chemistry and how long it takes us to build team chemistry.
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8/6/2015  10:55 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:
TPercy wrote:That means
PG: Caledron, Jerian grant , vuajnic
SG:afflalo,Galloway,thanasis
sf: melo, early, Thomas
Pf:zinger;Amundson; derrick williams(I don't see anything that justifies williams being better than amundson)
C:Robin Lopez, Oquinn, Seraphin

I really love the way our center position looks;however, I will dread the day that vuajnic will end up playing Significant minutes as a point guard. I hope thanasis is in the gym as we speak working on his handles and his shot.

Switch Vujanic and Gallo cause Gallo can play the point.


Galloway is terrible as a pg. He can't see the floor at a pg standard at all. He is much more effective as a sg.besides would you really like to see thanasis coming off the bench for afflalo? I had really high hopes that I would see a little more improvrmrnt from him in SL but he looked almost the same. Then again, to put things into perspective , it is only summer league and he played really well on the last game.As I said before, I really hope that thanasis is working on his handles and his 3ball in the gym right now as we speak because I am not sure if he is NBA ready.
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8/6/2015  11:00 AM
wh4t wrote:Cleanthony Early can shoot and he improved his handle. I would place him as a shooting guard backup or 3rd string and move thanasis as a 3rd string small forward

RoLo/Kyle/Seraphin
Derrick/Krispy/Amundson
Melo/Thomas/Thanasis
Afflalo/Early/Vujacic
Grant/Calderon/Galloway

If williams is starting we aren't getting more than 25 wins. He isn't even better than amundson.

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8/6/2015  11:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/6/2015  11:17 AM
TPercy wrote:
wh4t wrote:Cleanthony Early can shoot and he improved his handle. I would place him as a shooting guard backup or 3rd string and move thanasis as a 3rd string small forward

RoLo/Kyle/Seraphin
Derrick/Krispy/Amundson
Melo/Thomas/Thanasis
Afflalo/Early/Vujacic
Grant/Calderon/Galloway

If williams is starting we aren't getting more than 25 wins. He isn't even better than amundson.

One of the dumbest comments ever. It doesn't address that we have basically a whole new team that hasn't played together ever, playing in a system they have never played in that requires reading and reacting. We also have a coach who likes to play with lineups, so the players never get a feel for playing with their unit (rotationsterbating, is that a word?). But, you know what, if we get off to a slow start, let's just blame it on Phil signing Williams.

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8/6/2015  11:55 AM
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TPercy wrote:
wh4t wrote:Cleanthony Early can shoot and he improved his handle. I would place him as a shooting guard backup or 3rd string and move thanasis as a 3rd string small forward

RoLo/Kyle/Seraphin
Derrick/Krispy/Amundson
Melo/Thomas/Thanasis
Afflalo/Early/Vujacic
Grant/Calderon/Galloway

If williams is starting we aren't getting more than 25 wins. He isn't even better than amundson.

One of the dumbest comments ever. It doesn't address that we have basically a whole new team that hasn't played together ever, playing in a system they have never played in that requires reading and reacting. We also have a coach who likes to play with lineups, so the players never get a feel for playing with their unit (rotationsterbating, is that a word?). But, you know what, if we get off to a slow start, let's just blame it on Phil signing Williams.

Williams+Melo is a major recipe for disaster. What has williams done to justify being in the staring lineup over amundson and Porzingis? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

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8/6/2015  12:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/6/2015  12:21 PM
TPercy wrote:
Rookie wrote:
TPercy wrote:
wh4t wrote:Cleanthony Early can shoot and he improved his handle. I would place him as a shooting guard backup or 3rd string and move thanasis as a 3rd string small forward

RoLo/Kyle/Seraphin
Derrick/Krispy/Amundson
Melo/Thomas/Thanasis
Afflalo/Early/Vujacic
Grant/Calderon/Galloway

If williams is starting we aren't getting more than 25 wins. He isn't even better than amundson.

One of the dumbest comments ever. It doesn't address that we have basically a whole new team that hasn't played together ever, playing in a system they have never played in that requires reading and reacting. We also have a coach who likes to play with lineups, so the players never get a feel for playing with their unit (rotationsterbating, is that a word?). But, you know what, if we get off to a slow start, let's just blame it on Phil signing Williams.

Williams+Melo is a major recipe for disaster. What has williams done to justify being in the staring lineup over amundson and Porzingis? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Why are you assuming Williams is a starter? When has he even been a starter? We are deep at the 4/5 and I don't think the rotations have been set. With his skill set, I would think that he would project as a 6th man, instant scoring off of the bench, more in line with what JR's role was. The 1st unit will likely feature a half court set while the second unit will likely be up tempo. He also has KP, Seraphin, O'quin and Amundson competing for minutes.

Edit to add - Willams would benefit from an up tempo offense and playing with guards Grant and Vujacic who will add movement and the ability to hit cutters with pocket. But again, if Williams sucks, it's next man up and I am hoping KP should benefit if he is ready. I would be too surprised to see Seraphin start with Melo because of his post up game. I think Seraphin also has a decent mid range shot.

A traditional starting line up would feature

Calderon
Aflallo
Melo
Seraphin
Lopez

Seraphin is right on the cusp of breaking through into the starting line up and is closer to it then KP or Williams. Even then, you have O'Quin and Almundson who can give you productive minutes. So how exactly does Williams make us a 29, or whatever, win team?

It was also public knowledge that Seraphin would sign with the team that promised him he would start, so how is it exactly he signed with the Knicks w/o reassurance of what his role would be on the team? More then likely, Seraphin has the edge over everyone else to start.

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8/6/2015  12:34 PM
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TPercy wrote:
Rookie wrote:
TPercy wrote:
wh4t wrote:Cleanthony Early can shoot and he improved his handle. I would place him as a shooting guard backup or 3rd string and move thanasis as a 3rd string small forward

RoLo/Kyle/Seraphin
Derrick/Krispy/Amundson
Melo/Thomas/Thanasis
Afflalo/Early/Vujacic
Grant/Calderon/Galloway

If williams is starting we aren't getting more than 25 wins. He isn't even better than amundson.

One of the dumbest comments ever. It doesn't address that we have basically a whole new team that hasn't played together ever, playing in a system they have never played in that requires reading and reacting. We also have a coach who likes to play with lineups, so the players never get a feel for playing with their unit (rotationsterbating, is that a word?). But, you know what, if we get off to a slow start, let's just blame it on Phil signing Williams.

Williams+Melo is a major recipe for disaster. What has williams done to justify being in the staring lineup over amundson and Porzingis? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Why are you assuming Williams is a starter? When has he even been a starter? We are deep at the 4/5 and I don't think the rotations have been set. With his skill set, I would think that he would project as a 6th man, instant scoring off of the bench, more in line with what JR's role was. The 1st unit will likely feature a half court set while the second unit will likely be up tempo. He also has KP, Seraphin, O'quin and Amundson competing for minutes.

Edit to add - Willams would benefit from an up tempo offense and playing with guards Grant and Vujacic who will add movement and the ability to hit cutters with pocket. But again, if Williams sucks, it's next man up and I am hoping KP should benefit if he is ready. I would be too surprised to see Seraphin start with Melo because of his post up game. I think Seraphin also has a decent mid range shot.

A traditional starting line up would feature

Calderon
Aflallo
Melo
Seraphin
Lopez

Seraphin is right on the cusp of breaking through into the starting line up and is closer to it then KP or Williams. Even then, you have O'Quin and Almundson who can give you productive minutes. So how exactly does Williams make us a 29, or whatever, win team?

It was also public knowledge that Seraphin would sign with the team that promised him he would start, so how is it exactly he signed with the Knicks w/o reassurance of what his role would be on the team? More then likely, Seraphin has the edge over everyone else to start.

I know it's against the norm, but I think starting KP at PF will help his development. Then he will be the first sub for Admundson or DWill. I think Seraphin is a lock at Center. O'quinn and Seraphin will battle for the backup center spot. Seraphin doesn't have any leverage when you sign for 1 year. He's just looking to cash in next year, while using a big market team like the knicks as self promotion.

I'm also not against DWill starting at PF....simply by default. But I would prefer KP. If he's going to be the franchise, then this is the best way to prepare for that expectation. Set the bar high.....He has the confidence to be a starter. That doesn't mean he will play major minutes. I think Fisher will start KP and give him the early yank, just like he did in SL.

Rolo, Seraphin and O'quinn are low post threats. Not sure if you want these guys on the floor at the same time. Maybe O'quinn because of his passing and mid range jumper.

My vote is KP.....Him and Aflallo He will help spread the floor for Rolo and Melo. Plus KP and Rolo will give us that twin tower rim protection. SL proves that KP can handle a starter role right out the gate.

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8/6/2015  12:42 PM
blkexec wrote:
Rookie wrote:
TPercy wrote:
Rookie wrote:
TPercy wrote:
wh4t wrote:Cleanthony Early can shoot and he improved his handle. I would place him as a shooting guard backup or 3rd string and move thanasis as a 3rd string small forward

RoLo/Kyle/Seraphin
Derrick/Krispy/Amundson
Melo/Thomas/Thanasis
Afflalo/Early/Vujacic
Grant/Calderon/Galloway

If williams is starting we aren't getting more than 25 wins. He isn't even better than amundson.

One of the dumbest comments ever. It doesn't address that we have basically a whole new team that hasn't played together ever, playing in a system they have never played in that requires reading and reacting. We also have a coach who likes to play with lineups, so the players never get a feel for playing with their unit (rotationsterbating, is that a word?). But, you know what, if we get off to a slow start, let's just blame it on Phil signing Williams.

Williams+Melo is a major recipe for disaster. What has williams done to justify being in the staring lineup over amundson and Porzingis? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Why are you assuming Williams is a starter? When has he even been a starter? We are deep at the 4/5 and I don't think the rotations have been set. With his skill set, I would think that he would project as a 6th man, instant scoring off of the bench, more in line with what JR's role was. The 1st unit will likely feature a half court set while the second unit will likely be up tempo. He also has KP, Seraphin, O'quin and Amundson competing for minutes.

Edit to add - Willams would benefit from an up tempo offense and playing with guards Grant and Vujacic who will add movement and the ability to hit cutters with pocket. But again, if Williams sucks, it's next man up and I am hoping KP should benefit if he is ready. I would be too surprised to see Seraphin start with Melo because of his post up game. I think Seraphin also has a decent mid range shot.

A traditional starting line up would feature

Calderon
Aflallo
Melo
Seraphin
Lopez

Seraphin is right on the cusp of breaking through into the starting line up and is closer to it then KP or Williams. Even then, you have O'Quin and Almundson who can give you productive minutes. So how exactly does Williams make us a 29, or whatever, win team?

It was also public knowledge that Seraphin would sign with the team that promised him he would start, so how is it exactly he signed with the Knicks w/o reassurance of what his role would be on the team? More then likely, Seraphin has the edge over everyone else to start.

I know it's against the norm, but I think starting KP at PF will help his development. Then he will be the first sub for Admundson or DWill. I think Seraphin is a lock at Center. O'quinn and Seraphin will battle for the backup center spot. Seraphin doesn't have any leverage when you sign for 1 year. He's just looking to cash in next year, while using a big market team like the knicks as self promotion.

I'm also not against DWill starting at PF....simply by default. But I would prefer KP. If he's going to be the franchise, then this is the best way to prepare for that expectation. Set the bar high.....He has the confidence to be a starter. That doesn't mean he will play major minutes. I think Fisher will start KP and give him the early yank, just like he did in SL.

Rolo, Seraphin and O'quinn are low post threats. Not sure if you want these guys on the floor at the same time. Maybe O'quinn because of his passing and mid range jumper.

My vote is KP.....Him and Aflallo He will help spread the floor for Rolo and Melo. Plus KP and Rolo will give us that twin tower rim protection. SL proves that KP can handle a starter role right out the gate.

I agree that the only way KP sees consistent minutes is if he starts. I don't think he starts at the beginning of the season, just like Grant won't. Realistically, KP is a project with unlimited upside, the Knicks will bring him along slowly.

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8/6/2015  1:39 PM
TPercy wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TPercy wrote:That means
PG: Caledron, Jerian grant , vuajnic
SG:afflalo,Galloway,thanasis
sf: melo, early, Thomas
Pf:zinger;Amundson; derrick williams(I don't see anything that justifies williams being better than amundson)
C:Robin Lopez, Oquinn, Seraphin

I really love the way our center position looks;however, I will dread the day that vuajnic will end up playing Significant minutes as a point guard. I hope thanasis is in the gym as we speak working on his handles and his shot.

I think Langston gets the minutes at the point if needed.

I hate Galloway as a PG. He can't see the floor well at all for a point guard.

yea.. and most fans also hate their 3rd or 4th option at PG. Just curious... If I am not concerned about Galloway's PG skills as the 3rd string PG does that mean I have licked Phil's balls?

We are thin after Calderon/Grant at PG. They opted for depth in size and athleticism, sacrificing depth in PG to do so. Maybe that was a calculated risk (lick lick). Maybe that was just how things turned out and its an oops. Time will tell. I suspect if Calderon/Grant are expected to play heavy minutes and one goes down hurt with an extended injury they would make a roster move. Again... time will tell.

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8/6/2015  1:42 PM
fishmike wrote:
TPercy wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TPercy wrote:That means
PG: Caledron, Jerian grant , vuajnic
SG:afflalo,Galloway,thanasis
sf: melo, early, Thomas
Pf:zinger;Amundson; derrick williams(I don't see anything that justifies williams being better than amundson)
C:Robin Lopez, Oquinn, Seraphin

I really love the way our center position looks;however, I will dread the day that vuajnic will end up playing Significant minutes as a point guard. I hope thanasis is in the gym as we speak working on his handles and his shot.

I think Langston gets the minutes at the point if needed.

I hate Galloway as a PG. He can't see the floor well at all for a point guard.

yea.. and most fans also hate their 3rd or 4th option at PG. Just curious... If I am not concerned about Galloway's PG skills as the 3rd string PG does that mean I have licked Phil's balls?

We are thin after Calderon/Grant at PG. They opted for depth in size and athleticism, sacrificing depth in PG to do so. Maybe that was a calculated risk (lick lick). Maybe that was just how things turned out and its an oops. Time will tell. I suspect if Calderon/Grant are expected to play heavy minutes and one goes down hurt with an extended injury they would make a roster move. Again... time will tell.

You can always pick up a point guard if you need one. Philly had a kid up from the d l that played really well for them last year (tim frazier?).
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Thanasis is a work in progress but we asked the guy to sit here and work and he did we gave him a deal. Hopefully this guy looks good as hustle player around talent
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