jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:good deal for both sides. gallo has to stay healthy becuase when he's on the court, he's proven to be very productive. pretty sure he scored 50 last year in one of the last games of the season.

Terrence Ross scored 50...That's a lot of coin for a 40% shooter..

gallinari is a very efficient scorer-- not elite but close-- and a better defender than melo. i'd rather have gallinari here in msg than melo.... how's jr smith's job search going? is he and his sister boning up on mandarin yet?

Gallo is not a better defender than Melo..No one cares if Gallo plays defense..The fact that you tout Gallo's defensive prowess all these years and no one challenges you doesn't make him a good defender..No one cares to argue the point..Gallo is a so so defender..And at 6'10" giving you less than 5 boards a games..Will Chandler has always been the better defender..I could give two shiits about JR and his job prospects..I'm not the one who is obsessed with him...U guys act like JR is about to marry your first born..

actually on basketballreference.com gallinari's real plus/minus on defense are better than melo's, his offense real plus/minus is a little bit less than melo's, and his cumulative real plus/minus is better than melo's. moreover melo has always been the featured player on his team while gallinari has not been close to a featured player. gallinari even with this ridiculous new contract remains the better value dollar for dollar....

so far as the eye test and defense: you are mr. magoo

Basketball reference plus/minus..That's why u can't be taken seriously..Gallo averaged 1 assist per game last year..And its not the first time in his career..

fish, as always, beats me to it...

But...but...I just know that there's a Strato-mel0-metric somewhere that will show how much better that 1 dime made all Gallo's teammates! And look, Mr. Almost Elite ISN'T AS GOOD OFFENSIVELY AS MR. CHUCKSHOT, DINOSAUR GAME MELO!

So an overpaid, second tier player who barely plays in half of any games, has NEVER managed to get out of the first round of the VARSITY SEASON, is a better economic investment than Melonoma.

You show slight signs of intelligence, dktf, and then you always revert back down the bunny hole...

i prefer the bunny hole if it means forcing you to waste precious time responding to me. i said the contract was ridiculous. the nuggets are paying for gallinari's potential, which has never been wholly relaized because he has been chronically injured.

to review:

gallinari has a ridiculous contract
gallinari is being paid for what the nuggets in him if he can only stay healthy so it is a big gamble for them

meantime acquiring melo the way dolan forced walsh to do in february 2011 has done nothing for the knicks. that's 5 years of futility and counting....

this season will be great for me because either melo is a good employee and buys in and changes his game to suit the system or he pulls a marbury and pouts, sulks, is disgruntled and asks to be traded-- revealing his character once again as nothing to be lauded. for me it's a win-win.

for you? lose-lose

To sum up:

It's an internet sports board. Unless you haven't noticed, it's a waste of everyone's time except for our sponsors and their ad banners. Unless of course, being a higher species of human, you somehow aren't wasting your time here.

How is melo being a good employee, buying in and changing his game (hopefully to approach these great Gallo-level potentialities you keep creaming over) a win for you? What are you going to do? Pull a tkf and disappear? And exactly how is that a lose for me?

Just askin.

You see, if Melo does well, and the team sucks due to 1) yoots breaking down 2) no real #2 or even #3 offensive options present themselves 3)our bench performs abysmally while Melo plays on fresh knees and get his own 28, 8, 3 again, I win.

If Melo doesn't do as well, but buys in and the team does incredibly well, or at least to current expectations, I win.

If Melo doesn't do well and the team sucks as well, you win.

In any of these cases, Melo is not going anywhere, so you lose.

By the way, nice of you to tap dance around the fact that your insightful comments about the validity of NBA salary investments is based on unrealized potential and no results in your varsity season.

maybe someone can translate this gibberish as i cannot be bothered....

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:good deal for both sides. gallo has to stay healthy becuase when he's on the court, he's proven to be very productive. pretty sure he scored 50 last year in one of the last games of the season.

Terrence Ross scored 50...That's a lot of coin for a 40% shooter..

gallinari is a very efficient scorer-- not elite but close-- and a better defender than melo. i'd rather have gallinari here in msg than melo.... how's jr smith's job search going? is he and his sister boning up on mandarin yet?

Gallo is not a better defender than Melo..No one cares if Gallo plays defense..The fact that you tout Gallo's defensive prowess all these years and no one challenges you doesn't make him a good defender..No one cares to argue the point..Gallo is a so so defender..And at 6'10" giving you less than 5 boards a games..Will Chandler has always been the better defender..I could give two shiits about JR and his job prospects..I'm not the one who is obsessed with him...U guys act like JR is about to marry your first born..

actually on basketballreference.com gallinari's real plus/minus on defense are better than melo's, his offense real plus/minus is a little bit less than melo's, and his cumulative real plus/minus is better than melo's. moreover melo has always been the featured player on his team while gallinari has not been close to a featured player. gallinari even with this ridiculous new contract remains the better value dollar for dollar....

so far as the eye test and defense: you are mr. magoo

Basketball reference plus/minus..That's why u can't be taken seriously..Gallo averaged 1 assist per game last year..And its not the first time in his career..

since the trade Gallo was going to blossom, lead the Nuggs to many great things and show indeed that Melo is terrible human, lousy ball player and Gallo is the golden child. Gallo had a nice sophmore season tantalizing the fan base with his potential. He is literally the exact same player he was 5 years ago. He shoots 3s, is an average defender, has zero playmaking abilities and has not expanded his game much at all. He's a 15/5 player, and thats because when he shoots well he gives you 20, and the next night he doesnt shoot well he gives you 10. At this point he's a less athletic Tim Thomas. He's an OK player. His ability to shoot is the same as having a 95 mph fast ball, so while he's hitting those shots he will get paid, but there is nothing great about Gallo anymore.

I laugh when hear guys like Briggs talk about "his ability to take over games."

When has this happened? What games? Like 2? Has he ever won player of the week? Or month? I mean if he was capable of getting hot and carrying a team more than twice a season it would show.

He's a 6'10 jump shooter that occasionally has scoring outbursts. He is not a defensive player. He got a very nice money deal based on hope and potential and was on the trade table a couple months ago.

My favorite part about DK and the obscure stats crowd who love Gallo, is when all else fails in the Melo trashing they can always fall back on Melo's playoff failures. Except Gallo's playoff experiences have been utterly abysmal.

Gallo is just another dopey contract. Who cares...

The problem is they pump up these players and you have no interest in talking about them(Gallo)in a negative tone...If he is healthy, Gallo is a nice 3/4 option on a good team..His defense isn't great but good enough to leave him on the floor...He can get hot but he won't carry your team...But that's all ok as well...The NBA need this type of player...

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:good deal for both sides. gallo has to stay healthy becuase when he's on the court, he's proven to be very productive. pretty sure he scored 50 last year in one of the last games of the season.

Terrence Ross scored 50...That's a lot of coin for a 40% shooter..

gallinari is a very efficient scorer-- not elite but close-- and a better defender than melo. i'd rather have gallinari here in msg than melo.... how's jr smith's job search going? is he and his sister boning up on mandarin yet?

Gallo is not a better defender than Melo..No one cares if Gallo plays defense..The fact that you tout Gallo's defensive prowess all these years and no one challenges you doesn't make him a good defender..No one cares to argue the point..Gallo is a so so defender..And at 6'10" giving you less than 5 boards a games..Will Chandler has always been the better defender..I could give two shiits about JR and his job prospects..I'm not the one who is obsessed with him...U guys act like JR is about to marry your first born..

actually on basketballreference.com gallinari's real plus/minus on defense are better than melo's, his offense real plus/minus is a little bit less than melo's, and his cumulative real plus/minus is better than melo's. moreover melo has always been the featured player on his team while gallinari has not been close to a featured player. gallinari even with this ridiculous new contract remains the better value dollar for dollar....

so far as the eye test and defense: you are mr. magoo

Basketball reference plus/minus..That's why u can't be taken seriously..Gallo averaged 1 assist per game last year..And its not the first time in his career..

I think a "healthy" Gallinari is significantly better than Lopez--I think most of the NBA would agree. Lopez is a quality complimentary player (NBA C) while Gallo has the ability to take over NBA games by himself. I think Gallo is a very decent defender--not as good as Lopez but overall a good defensive player. If you add in offense that separates the two by a good margin.

Gallo is not a decent defender...He is 6'10" and can only defend a SF and he isn't great at it..He is just ok..U can't compare Gallo and Lopez..They are completely different players at different positions..Gallo can take over games like JR Smith can take over games..Gallo is JR Smith without the crazy and the athleticism...JR is a better passer and better defender when engaged..

by every statistical measure available jr smith is an inferior defender compared with gallinari, and he fails the eye test as well, bloss.... for all his gang-related connections and tats galore it is a fact that smith is also charmin soft, both mentally and physically. the only thing he is engaged in is douchebaggery.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

dk7th wrote:here's hoping he has a breakout season and puts up allstar numbers. but golly that's a big gamble by denver.

A breakout season after 8 years?

it is hard to gauge a player who has been injured as much as he has so i think using a "breakout season" is acceptable. he never developed a good 3-point shot which has held him back but he is great at drawing fouls. even as he is great at drawing fouls he has never gotten better at finishing after contact, which has also held him back. i also had hoped he would develop into a better playmaker. he has great defensive instincts and plays it with heart.

nuggets are taking a big chance with him but they evidently see what i and many others see.

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:good deal for both sides. gallo has to stay healthy becuase when he's on the court, he's proven to be very productive. pretty sure he scored 50 last year in one of the last games of the season.

Terrence Ross scored 50...That's a lot of coin for a 40% shooter..

gallinari is a very efficient scorer-- not elite but close-- and a better defender than melo. i'd rather have gallinari here in msg than melo.... how's jr smith's job search going? is he and his sister boning up on mandarin yet?

Gallo is not a better defender than Melo..No one cares if Gallo plays defense..The fact that you tout Gallo's defensive prowess all these years and no one challenges you doesn't make him a good defender..No one cares to argue the point..Gallo is a so so defender..And at 6'10" giving you less than 5 boards a games..Will Chandler has always been the better defender..I could give two shiits about JR and his job prospects..I'm not the one who is obsessed with him...U guys act like JR is about to marry your first born..

actually on basketballreference.com gallinari's real plus/minus on defense are better than melo's, his offense real plus/minus is a little bit less than melo's, and his cumulative real plus/minus is better than melo's. moreover melo has always been the featured player on his team while gallinari has not been close to a featured player. gallinari even with this ridiculous new contract remains the better value dollar for dollar....

so far as the eye test and defense: you are mr. magoo

Basketball reference plus/minus..That's why u can't be taken seriously..Gallo averaged 1 assist per game last year..And its not the first time in his career..

I think a "healthy" Gallinari is significantly better than Lopez--I think most of the NBA would agree. Lopez is a quality complimentary player (NBA C) while Gallo has the ability to take over NBA games by himself. I think Gallo is a very decent defender--not as good as Lopez but overall a good defensive player. If you add in offense that separates the two by a good margin.

Gallo is not a decent defender...He is 6'10" and can only defend a SF and he isn't great at it..He is just ok..U can't compare Gallo and Lopez..They are completely different players at different positions..Gallo can take over games like JR Smith can take over games..Gallo is JR Smith without the crazy and the athleticism...JR is a better passer and better defender when engaged..

by every statistical measure available jr smith is an inferior defender compared with gallinari, and he fails the eye test as well, bloss.... for all his gang-related connections and tats galore it is a fact that smith is also charmin soft, both mentally and physically. the only thing he is engaged in is douchebaggery.

Not true, JR's advanced offensive and defensive numbers were better last year..Career wise, they are in a dead heat, statistically...Both disappears in games..Both get hot..JR's offense, like his life, is more volatile...One is an idiot and the other isn't..