Yoots who haven't played a real game yet.
NBDL up and comers.
The discount journeymen.

edit: free agents who haven't played a game for us yet

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:KP and Jerian are both at the top of my Fav list along with Melo. I think RoLo is gonna be a very important player for this team. I feel good about Early and Ledo too.

Clearly Phil has gone with the non big name star and youth route. It wasn't likely that we would get one of the big names to come here and in the end only one top guy left his team. He had a sound plan for what he'd do if none of the bigger names came, which was the most likely scenario anyway. You have to at least try to see if there's interest but plan for how you'll build without any of the bigger names.

Now this roster is more about the future than the present but there is a nice balance to the age of the roster and the ability to win even now and the next few years.

Papabear Says

LOL he has gone without the big names because none wanted to come here.

fishmike wrote:in all seriousness I just want to see the team play well. I want to see the young guys stay healthy and progress and the newly signed guys do what they were brought here for. If those things happen and guys stay relatively healthy the Knicks will be a .500 ish playoff team. Calderon, RLopez, Afflalo and Melo are all good players and if they stay healthy are a good start. KP, Galloway, Grant and Early are all young guys ready to help in supporting roles. Season will come down to health and chemistry. Im very interested to see what adjustments Fisher makes and what kind of rotation we see. Every guy was signed by Phil on this roster... we should start to see some better team/system ball.

EnySpree wrote:I'm late but I love the whole roster. I dig every player except Calderón, but I was excited about him last season before the season started. I'm hoping the guys all gel and buy in. We have a good group of guys here now....good meaning their personalities mesh. Same type of selfless, workmans types that all have something to prove.

It's a new season. I'm prepared to give everybody a pass, at least until after the first few pre-season games. I'm gonna accept that Calderone was injured ALL of last season,and I'll wait to see what he brings. Also, I'm hoping that N'dour makes the team, and shines.

TPercy wrote:

blkexec wrote:

TPercy wrote:

blkexec wrote:NDOUR

ALL DAY

I'm not sure he will be a knick. Fisher said he was not going to get set camp invite because of the loaded positions .

Can we trade players we just signed.....I would trade any one of these guys....

Lance, Amundson, Ledo, Calderson, etc... for Ndour.

I would do lance for ndour in a heartbeat. Amundson was the only one of the two who should have had a shot coming back.

People have criticized Phil for "exposing" the behavior of JR, Shump, Sam, and to a lesser extent, THJ, and wonder if FAs will want to come here, but rewarding guys like Amundson and Thomas show folks that players will be rewarded if they put in an honest effort, even if they are not top of the line performers.

Both are also guys who learned the system and can impart that to new players. From the Rosen article:

Even so, Jackson is not overly enthusiastic about adding five or more new players to next season's rosters. What he'd rather do is bring in a few NBA veterans ASAP: "The idea is to have the rest of this season to get them indoctrinated, to get them comfortable in Fish's game plan. Something might come along during the trading deadline.

I think this is why Fisher coached SL, even though he seemed to introduce a variation of the Triangle, from what I've read. Not sure you want to recreate the wheel each year. Having to teach the system without guys on the court who can model it, would be a problem.

You now have a number of players on the team who know it...should make the transition for our new players a little easier.