NYY1NYK2 wrote:

TPercy wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:for all you guys drooling to have amundson back as your "glue guy" , he just cost us Ndour

Phil has 11 rings.

Who gives a ****... Its ppl like you who live in mediocrity based on past performance.
Lets make Michael Jordan our Lead Scout after drafting Adam Morrison & Kwame Brown, but who cares he's the greatest

Dude. I was being very facetious. I am mocking those who mocked me when I complained about Lou amundson and thomas.

TPercy wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:

TPercy wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:for all you guys drooling to have amundson back as your "glue guy" , he just cost us Ndour

Phil has 11 rings.

Who gives a ****... Its ppl like you who live in mediocrity based on past performance.
Lets make Michael Jordan our Lead Scout after drafting Adam Morrison & Kwame Brown, but who cares he's the greatest

Dude. I was being very facetious. I am mocking those who mocked me when I complained about Lou amundson and thomas.

In that case, aggression recinded. We at nyy1nyk2 & Associates, retract our previous comments towards Tpercy and issue a public apology.

I do not know why we rushed to sign Lance Thomas and Lou Amundson, we could have at least waited to make the signings official, especially for Lou Amundson who makes only 200k more but costs us 1.6m in salary cap vs the vet min

Meanwhile, teams can sign Ndour, who we found as a gem as a 4year player in college, with great physical abilities and potential to develop in to a SOLID player
N Dour's combination of physical abilities with length, athleticism, size, mobility, versatility, ability to rebound, provide steals, blocks, solid mid range game, while having a solid 3pt shot in College, versatility on DEFENSE and OFFENSE, ability to play the POST, initiate or finish in the fast break with his ability to box out/rebound to push tempo/ and finish with contact
He is listed at 6-8, 200pds, however, he seems much bigger and doesn't seem weak at all, if he can his weight up to about 240pds in a couple of years, while not losing his speed/quickness/mobility he could play a much greater role on the team that would be part of our future with much higher potential than majority of our roster

Players that I can compare Ndour to as he continues to develop
He has high energy/motor and would instantly be a FAN FAVORITE here in New York/MSG
With the way he plays, he will untap the cheers/energy/fan support of the Garden, which would improve our positive energy/fan support, which we have missed since our 54game win season

- a YOUNG Junkyard DOG/Renaldo Balkman but with much higher upside
- a YOUNG Shawn Marion/Gereld Wallace and he has great confidence in his shot already, if he can continue to develop a 3pt shot and add the weight/strength training, it would be like having another draft pick
- a combination of DeMaRRe Carroll, Draymond Green, and a poor mans Millsap, with the ability to defend 2-3 positions and capable of defending ALL 5 positions if needed on switches like Draymond Green
He doesn't need any plays to be called for him like many of these players above, while contributing in a high level with his physical abilities as he continues to get better
More importantly, he will fill a position/need moving forward with his youth/potential, and have greater trade value as an asset

Before another team signs N Dour, we should get a commitment from him but do not announce it as there are advantages of staying under the cap with Waiver Wires Claims...
He is one of the bigger surprises that were not drafted, in the Vegas Summer League that had no attention prior to his play by any scout/teams/GM's
We can not pass him up while keeping a spot for players like Early, Lance Thomas, and Lou Amundson for N dour...

There is NO DOUBT that we should sign him, he has too much talent/potential as he can improve, and is too young to pass up, also he can contribute right now, and continue to develop, while being a "cheap player" with reasonable upside, to play multiple positions
The question should be at what price can we lock him up at and for how many years...

We can split the Room Exemption and use it on Ndour, another player, or/and Thanasis

That was why Lou Amundson signing makes no sense, Amundson signed for 1.7m, makes about 300k more than the vet min at 1.4m, however, it cost us 1.7m in actual cap space that we could use for undrafted talents, European Talents, etc, especially for players on multiyear deals on cap friendly contracts
While Lance Thomas signed for about 500k more than the vet min, I do not mind signing ONE of these 2 players but both roster spots and the cap space are limited, of which we could use to acquire more talent and players of higher potential

For 0years of experience, the salary starts at a bit above 500k, however, we could sign them for more money to make up for the cost of living and high states tax in New York
Keeping our players happy and with incentives to want to get better and work hard should apply more to younger talents, not 30year olds that are 15th man roster
If Lance Thomas and Lou Amundson were so important to our development squad with their "work ethic", we should sign them to multi year deals, obviously they were not important enough to do so...

Knicks1969 wrote:I don't believe Ndour will be a Knicks; Fisher claimed that we are running out of roster spots. I think, Antetonoumpo will be chosen over him. Phil will give him a chance to earn some money and prove his worth.

Yup, I think we end up going for Perkins (though I wouldn't be surprised if he goes to the Clips).

smackeddog wrote:Oh man, boozer just instagrammed a photo of NY saying he's admiring the view- please don't sign him over Ndour!

Scratch that i just found it.

https://instagram.com/p/5Xd1T-LKJK/

NYY1NYK2 wrote:

TPercy wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:

TPercy wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:for all you guys drooling to have amundson back as your "glue guy" , he just cost us Ndour

Phil has 11 rings.

Who gives a ****... Its ppl like you who live in mediocrity based on past performance.
Lets make Michael Jordan our Lead Scout after drafting Adam Morrison & Kwame Brown, but who cares he's the greatest

Dude. I was being very facetious. I am mocking those who mocked me when I complained about Lou amundson and thomas.

In that case, aggression recinded. We at nyy1nyk2 & Associates, retract our previous comments towards Tpercy and issue a public apology.

It was a poor decision to run a system that we clearly did not have the talent to execute from the start...
We had the talent to run PnR basketball, with players that could shoot, penetrate, and run the PnR with

On top of all of that we had too many LOW IQ players that had doubts in the system because we didn't have the talent to execute it
With the moves we made this off season, it is telling me that we will take a couple years to develop the system FIRST, then believe that will fix all of our problem somewhere between year 3 to year 5

I said it early in the season last year that there was no point in running a system with majority of players that will not be a part of the roster
They will have no interest in learning a system and executing a system they clearly did not have the talent to run it with...

While we had shooters and Larkin's speed/quickness to run the PnR with along with STAT and CA

However, in comes NixLuva, saying I don't know what I am talking about and that Triangle >>> and that there are PnR's inside the Triangle, blah blah
Well the PnR is a PnR, the Triangle is the Triangle...

We have to remember that the NBA allows semi Zone's now, that Phil Jackson didn't have to face
When he ran it with Pau Gasol, he had versatile talents like Odom, Ariza/MWP, in addition to Kobe and Bynum who could also dominate their positions along with their depth

The league has changed much since then, with Dantoni's philosophies being a BIG reason for it, with how to create mismatches, along with 3pt shooting coming in all positions with more range
Along with more athletic BIG guards with speed/quickness/athleticism and BIGS that can step out of the paint that can play OUTSIDE IN or INSIDE OUT

There is optimism and then there is NixLuva, who thinks the Triangle, Phil Jackson, Derek Fisher, can do no WRONG and is INVINCIBLE
I mean honestly, his optimism is so fake to the point that it seems that he is hired by Dolan to run around message boards to say nothing but positive things since the Dantoni days
Every move, no matter how bad it is obviously, like with AB, becomes a POSITIVE move in his eyes
He tries to explain every action like he knows exactly what management and our coaching staff/GM's are thinking
Every YEAR he thinks we will be better than the last year, no matter what...
How can anyone justify the lack of talent that Lou Amundson and Lance Thomas bring to the table, wasting 2 roster spots and 3m in cap space
While offering Shved the vet min and not even offering AB a vet min contract

Now Fisher is realizing that we may not be able to "fit Ndour" with our roster spots but NixLuva feels it is okay to not rush our last 2 roster spots?
Saying it is only our 14th and 15th man, and wouldn't make much of a difference...

What kind of BS is that?
The problem is, we RUSHED the sign our 14th and 15th man, in Lance Thomas and Lou Amundson *who is unlikely to even get a vet min contract that is guaranteed elsewhere*
So they should NOT have been rushed to sign if anything and N Dour, along with our OTHER NEEDS are worth a roster spot over them by any standards...

Realistically instead of signing Derrick Williams (5m), Kyle O Quin (4m), and the 3m spent on LT and LA, that would give us 12m right there to use for a "more talented player"
Have Lopez (1.5m) and Affalo (500k) take a slight discount, and we have a NEAR MAX contract to offer ONE lower tier UFA, with about 14m or slighlty less...

Yet he tries to justify it, I don't know about everyone here, but I have every right to B*T!% about it if I want to
I have been through Layden through Isiah, but come on, I didn't expect this BS with Phil Jackson who had STACKED DOMINANT and VERSATILE 2way talents to contend on all of his rosters