BRIGGS wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Can Galdikas do anything besides dunk and block shots? Just asking.

rebound. What does Rudy Gobert do for Utah?

Also the NY media isnt going to toast a 27 year old man for fooling around with a younger woman when he was 19 years old and then marrying her. How many 19 year olds in this world messed around with someone in high school--probably 2-3mm a year right? Jees no wonder why top players dont want to come here when the fans btch about nothing--forget the media,.

I don't think 2-3mil 19 year olds a year have sex with 13 year olds

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Can Galdikas do anything besides dunk and block shots? Just asking.

rebound. What does Rudy Gobert do for Utah?

Also the NY media isnt going to toast a 27 year old man for fooling around with a younger woman when he was 19 years old and then marrying her. How many 19 year olds in this world messed around with someone in high school--probably 2-3mm a year right? Jees no wonder why top players dont want to come here when the fans btch about nothing--forget the media,.

I don't think 2-3mil 19 year olds a year have sex with 13 year olds

I sure hope not.

Geez ... whats wrong with that ???????????? SMH

This is a very good SL team. Probably the best we've had in a long time. I can't really remember one in particular that I think had more talent.

technomaster wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:(re: Thanasis)
It looks like he has been doing some community work for the Knicks. I think he is in their plans but there is a lot of talent on the roster.

Heh. The NBA experts would have us believe that we don't have a heck of a lot of talent on our roster.

Maybe they're right. Or maybe we just have a bunch of gems that need polishing.

Curious who emerges as the lead dog on this team. The smart money says Cleanthony Early emerges as the the best player. He's already proven himself to be a 20-10 player against D-league. Last year he posted 11.5ppg, 1.25apg, 4.75rpg, .471 fg, .556 3pt in just under 28mpg. Surely he can increase that to 15+ppg, 2apg, 6rpg.

Galloway will probably play limited limits - given that he's already proven himself to be an NBA rotation player. They'll want to give him a look

Thanasis looked like an elite athlete last year and has prototypical swingman size. It'll be interesting to see if the work he's put in have resulted in an NBA rotation player.

KP is a bit of a dark horse. While the summer league has typically been a place for guards and combo forwards to dominate, we've seen some strong performances from the young big men like Myles Turner and Frank the Tank. We'll see the impact his size and length have on opposing FG%, see some of his mobility... plus we'll see how he can score inside out.

And we'll also see if Ledo can perform in a team concept... and perhaps more importantly, see if he can up his FG% to over 40%!

And of course we can see what the big frenchman and big lithuanian are made of.

Most NBA media have no idea what the relative talent we have on this roster is. They just look a the record last year and base everything off of that. Forget that a lot of those players were kids in development. What their actual talent level is can't be ascertained by looking at the W/L record from last season. We follow the team much more closely and know how much raw talent our prospects have. If a few of these kids raise their level this year it could have a profound impact on this team's potential.

RonRon wrote:

TPercy wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:It looks like a great roster. Have to wonder if Thanasis makes the team.

boy he's got phyiscal tools... would love to see him playing good BB. I have a feeling they will shortly choose between Thanasis and Early.

Early has a guaranteed contract for next season.Thanasis should make this team as a rotation Sf imo. Better him than lance Thomas

Yeah, I would have to agree but add in Ledo to that list

With limited roster spots, we likely will have to choose between 2/3, with SG/SF's as projects between Thanasis/Early/Ledo maybe even 2/5 D League SHARPSHOOTER Jarrell Eddie SG/SF 6-7, 220pds, or Scotty Hopson SG/PG 6-6, 205pds, who was cut by Cleveland last year

We simply can not afford to have so many "projects" playing on our roster especially the same positions, while Early had to deal with many injuries last year, we may need to give him some times to audition himself and perhaps build up trade value, as we continue to monitor Ledo/Thanasis/and Early from the Summer League and see who will translate to the NBA better and who has been working on their games with their weakness's, strengths, and NBA game shape *which we know Ledo has been doing*

Why is Daniel Hackett NOT on the roster? I am very impressed with his skills/versatility/defense, HIGH IQ/DEFENSE/ability to PUSH THE BALL/TEMPO and create for the team

Daniel Hackett was suppose to work our for The Knick's, who I thought twas suppose to audition and play in our Summer League and AT LEAST should get a training camp invite and a private work out
He is a LEGIT BIG PG and SG, 27 years of age and turning 28 in Dec., at 6-6, 210pds, could be similar to Livingston but with a LEGIT 3pt shot, and also has good speed/quickness to penetrate/finish/facilitate and HE CAN POST UP
He will not have maturity issues, has HIGH BB IQ, GOOD DEFENSE/SIZE/TOUGHNESS, and has been playing as a PRO for a many years now, also has experience in The Triangle with the size/skills/versatility to DEFEND and PLAY both PG and SG in the NBA, he isn't just a combo guard/tweener, currently we only have 1 player that has the ability to penetrate/finish, while Grant is a ROOKIE, Hackett has been playing PROS OVERSEAS and could be a steal for us

Remember, that Calderon needs to play with a PG/SG that could defend 2 positions and could penetrate/finish/create their own shot and for the team
We need to add players in the PG/SG and SF/PF like Odom did utilizing KP's versatility/ability to spread the floor for PnR's with consistency and effectively/efficiently
Calderon/Galloway both are not the best PG's that can penetrate consistently with their lack of speed/quickness, though not nearly as bad as Pablo or Jason Kidd
Hackett at 6-6, 220pds, is also a very good defender, could shoot the 3pter, can play on and off the ball, can ALSO POST UP, so could be utilized like Livingston but with a better shot, though Livingston is probably taller than listed and doesn't shoot the 3pter as well but he was very important to how GS plays and in the finals
Like Livingston, Hackett can probably start for some teams, and be a solid/versatile player on BOTH ENDS on the floor
This is exactly a Phil Jackson type PG/SG like Ron Harper with Galloway, that we could use part of the room exemption or salary space to sign to a multiyear deal

While Jerrelle Benimon, 6-8, 245pds, could play SF/PF and even Center as a stretch 4/5 like Odom/Draymond Green's role, as an extra ball handler
In fact I think Daniel Hacckett and the LITH center, Ovidijus Galdikas, BOTH SHOULD BE SIGNED to 3year deals with TEAM OPTIONS on final year, in which we could structure the contracts with the extra possible 2m to have cap space left after all the moves we made, though that would mean next year the salary of those additions would be higher and eat a bit more cap space that we may want
Splitting the room exemption for 2 players with 0 experience in the NBA to 3year deals/team options on 3rd, and partial guaranteed till a date to see how they fit in with the team
We could have salary space left as well, from 1-3m, depending on the 2m extra with this years cap and how we structure the contracts of of signings of Lopez/Affalo/Derrick Williams/Kyle O Quin

While Jarrell Eddie's ability to shoot the ball will surely translate and help our floor spacing as well as Scotty Hopson *if we are unable to sign Hacket, would look to develop him in the D League if we are able to move Calderon by the trade deadline, especially to Clippers with Lopez, for (expirings) Lance Stephenson and fills like Jamal Crawford
With Clipper's NEED AT CENTER, they are the most likely team to overpay for a Center and take on Calderon's contract as they will need a backup PG, especially if we acquire Lance in the process
With HACKETT and Grant, both Galloway/Calderon would have 2 PG/SG's with great size/ability to create/facilitate, shoot 3pters if open, can POST UP, push tempo, DEFEND both PG and SG, while Galloway/Calderon can play off the ball as shooters and 2nd ball handlers
Grant will be a ROOKIE, so getting a player like Hackett would improve our team's lack of playmaker's and ability to penetrate/finish and facilitate, like Monta Ellis did with Dallas/Calderon and George Hill did for Lance Stepehnson and now Monta Ellis/Stuckey

Daniel Hackett's 27, 6-6 210pds went to USC, team mates with OJ Mayo and DeRozan, along with great friends in Italy with Gallanari, and has been playing in Italy since he went undrafted in 2009. He joined the national team at EuroBasket in 2011, as pictured above. Maybe Hackett will come to Summer League or training camp or something. No harm in giving him a shot

Pretty sure Hackett was another product of our head scout and he would be a terrific option with Ovidijus Galdikas that are 2 players that will not have maturity issues and are GROWN MEN in their primes, that could contribute RIGHT NOW with great mobility, quickness/agility/athleticism/ length and versatility FOR DEFENSE that we need
Thanasis took less money to play in the D League last year, 500k less, so we should reward him with a 3year deal and not start his salary at about 500k
Hackett's DEFENSE and play making ability will elevate our team and FIT IN with Thanasis's DEFENSIVE abilities/versatility/inability to create his shot as Hackett has the size/quickness to defend both PG/SG, is a wiling defender with toughness and can PUSH THE TEMPO, create for Thanasis, making a great future rotation

Marice Ndoure put up great stats last year as SF/PF, but is listed at 200pds and played 4years in college with a all round game

and

Louis Lafayette (our 2nd rounder last year) is 6-10 200pds and is a PF, a team mate of Gobert's French team

Ben Strong 6-10 235pds, though almost 29years of age, and Orlando Sanchez 27 years of age, 6-9, 235pds (playing for Toronto for Summer League and was unhappy that Phil Jackson didn't call him up late in the season as many other D League players were called up, so he would be eligible to get 1year experience if he was brought up for the final season games as a loophole to start his salary higher next season

Strong put up very good numbers for our D League, playing more as a BIG INSIDE the paint with rebounds/block shots last year while Sanchez played more as a versatile BIG to stretch the floor and has a mid range game, ability to post up/pass and facilitate
I compare Sanchez to Sullinger and think his game translate much better than his career in college at Saint Johns and Strong to Hickson

With only 2-4 roster spots, not including Thanasis with possibly 2.8m room exemption and possibly 2-3m + in cap space(depending on how we structure contracts of new additions and the 2m extra in salary cap)
We will have to decide who deserves a roster spot and which players we could build up trade value for, while which players would help us on the floor now vs future, as we can afford only a couple of "projects" on our roster

I hope we sign Hackett, I think he will be a complete STEAL, very good friends with Gallanari, if we decide we may have interest bringing him back if we are unable to land Durant
With Calderon, if we could build up his value, we can DUMP HIM WITH LOPEZ with The Clippers for Lance/Crawford as expirings, along with Net's 2016 2nd rounder (we have no picks, maybe Fuzaro) and FUTURE PICKS like 1 1st rounder and another 2nd rounder

TPercy wrote:He is 6 9 with a 7 4 wing span and then he has close toa 29 inch no step vertical. so....what is wrong with him??

TPercy wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TPercy wrote:He is 6 9 with a 7 4 wing span and then he has close toa 29 inch no step vertical. so....what is wrong with him??

someone posted his(N'Dour) Portsmouth numbers. I think he struggled on offense there but I could be wrong.

What is Portsmorth

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Can Galdikas do anything besides dunk and block shots? Just asking.

rebound. What does Rudy Gobert do for Utah?

Also the NY media isnt going to toast a 27 year old man for fooling around with a younger woman when he was 19 years old and then marrying her. How many 19 year olds in this world messed around with someone in high school--probably 2-3mm a year right? Jees no wonder why top players dont want to come here when the fans btch about nothing--forget the media,.

I don't think 2-3mil 19 year olds a year have sex with 13 year olds

CrushAlot wrote:

TPercy wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TPercy wrote:He is 6 9 with a 7 4 wing span and then he has close toa 29 inch no step vertical. so....what is wrong with him??

someone posted his(N'Dour) Portsmouth numbers. I think he struggled on offense there but I could be wrong.

What is Portsmorth

It is a pre draft tournament for college players that are on the bubble for being drafted. Some really good players have helped themselves get drafted there (i.e. Jimmy Butler).

Each year for 63 years the P.I.T has invited 64 of the best college basketball players (seniors) from across the nation to participate in a four-day, twelve game tournament in front of representatives from every NBA team. The tournament drew the attention of NBA Scouts and General Managers in the 1970’s when players like Rick Barry, Earl “The Pearl” Monroe, Dave Cowens, John Lucas and Bobby Cremins came to Portsmouth to play. Soon the word spread and approximately 200 Scouts, General Managers and Representatives of all 30 NBA teams began to come to see players like John Stockton, Dennis Rodman, Tim Hardaway, Scottie Pippen and others. Today scouts from numerous international leagues have joined in on the annual April pilgrimage to Portsmouth. Over the years the P.I.T. has been a showcase for five of the 50 greatest players in NBA History (Rick Barry, Earl ‘The Pearl” Monroe, Dave Cowens, John Stockton, Scottie Pippen) and for many others who have gone on to NBA stardom including 2015 NBA All-Star Jimmy Butler.

WaltLongmire wrote:

Finestrg wrote:So no Daniel Hackett huh? I thought he was gonna be part of the SL squad--was looking forward to seeing him in Vegas. Anyone know what's up? I think he may have worked out for us twice. Maybe no SL but a training camp invite perhaps?

Would make sense to me.

If he doesn't hook on in the NBA he would probably go back to Europe.

Might not want to risk an injury in SL, where things can be a bit clumsy, at times.

WaltLongmire wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Can Galdikas do anything besides dunk and block shots? Just asking.

rebound. What does Rudy Gobert do for Utah?

Also the NY media isnt going to toast a 27 year old man for fooling around with a younger woman when he was 19 years old and then marrying her. How many 19 year olds in this world messed around with someone in high school--probably 2-3mm a year right? Jees no wonder why top players dont want to come here when the fans btch about nothing--forget the media,.

I don't think 2-3mil 19 year olds a year have sex with 13 year olds

In certain societies I expect that 13 year olds might be married off in arranged marriages.

does that make it ok?

Of course not...but

No...but different cultures might think differently about certain actions...no? Not in his situation, though.

If it is accepted based on culture, tradition, religion, etc., it becomes the norm, or "OK" for them...not much else to say.

Morality is a relative thing- much depends on which holy book you adhere to.

if that is his culture and this was an arranged marriage then that is a different story. She was the youngest bride in Lithuania in 2008.

Also, I just read that she was 15 not 13. Big difference.