nixluva wrote:

Nalod wrote:

nixluva wrote:SAS is the blowhard who is also stirring up trouble with all of this crap. Figures SAS bytch ass is involved. He has been on a tangent with complaining about this and he's has been in Melo's ear over the years causing trouble. I'm telling you this guy is bad news.

Carmelo Anthony feels “completely hoodwinked and betrayed by Phil Jackson’’ after the Knicks traded Tim Hardaway Jr. and selected European project Kristaps Porzingis with the fourth pick of the draft, according to a radio report by ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith.
The report cited sources close to Anthony, who is currently in Las Vegas for his wife La La’s birthday.

“All they said was he’s furious, he’s livid, he feels completely hoodwinked and betrayed by Phil Jackson,’’ Smith said. “He feels like he was lied to and sold a bill of goods. He’s willing to concede he wanted his money, but he didn’t know it would be like this and this bad. He can’t believe the second season for Phil Jackson he has to look forward to being worse than last season was.”

I thought he was gonna get out his rolodex and recruit and help Phil? Gotta do whats best for the franchise, not whats good for the Melo.

I'm telling you SAS had his hand in this. How would we even know what Melo was saying if not that SAS was talking to him about the draft and instigating trouble? Think about it. When does Melo use words like "hoodwinked"? That's SAS talking. He's not happy so he's trying to make problems. He's done this before. He's not a good guy.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if SAS was one of Frank's sources. Though I also wouldn't be surprised if SAS got it right from the horse's mouth.

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Nalod wrote:

nixluva wrote:SAS is the blowhard who is also stirring up trouble with all of this crap. Figures SAS bytch ass is involved. He has been on a tangent with complaining about this and he's has been in Melo's ear over the years causing trouble. I'm telling you this guy is bad news.

Carmelo Anthony feels “completely hoodwinked and betrayed by Phil Jackson’’ after the Knicks traded Tim Hardaway Jr. and selected European project Kristaps Porzingis with the fourth pick of the draft, according to a radio report by ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith.
The report cited sources close to Anthony, who is currently in Las Vegas for his wife La La’s birthday.

“All they said was he’s furious, he’s livid, he feels completely hoodwinked and betrayed by Phil Jackson,’’ Smith said. “He feels like he was lied to and sold a bill of goods. He’s willing to concede he wanted his money, but he didn’t know it would be like this and this bad. He can’t believe the second season for Phil Jackson he has to look forward to being worse than last season was.”

I thought he was gonna get out his rolodex and recruit and help Phil? Gotta do whats best for the franchise, not whats good for the Melo.

I'm telling you SAS had his hand in this. How would we even know what Melo was saying if not that SAS was talking to him about the draft and instigating trouble? Think about it. When does Melo use words like "hoodwinked"? That's SAS talking. He's not happy so he's trying to make problems. He's done this before. He's not a good guy.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if SAS was one of Frank's sources. Though I also wouldn't be surprised if SAS got it right from the horse's mouth.

DrAlphaeus wrote:Waiting for Melo to make a public statement to distance himself from Isola's reporting. I mean, that's what comes next, right?

He's sad to see THJ go, he gets to feel that way.

And what I hope is his reaction — if it even is anywhere close to what was reported — will give way to acceptance and he'll take on responsibility to help all these new guys become part of the program.

But if he ends up being the problem child, he has the juice for a trade, have at it.

A Melo trade isn't a immediate thing. First he would need to show that he is recovered from his surgery and then suitors must be found. During that time, his image will be in the toilet. Better for him to wrap his head around this pick and trade and show some semblance of leadership. I am further amazed when all the draft experts turn up their noses at picking Prozingis at 4. After the first 3 picks, there was no consensus 4th pick.

crzymdups wrote:

holfresh wrote:I gotta admit..I was thinking Melo, cap space, a good draft pick..Love, maybe Aldridge, can we pry Cousins away from SAC..Wow..Those dreams didn't last long..We are the Knicks..

I was trying to say this early on - the Knicks were never one or two moves away to build a true contender. We were never getting Draymond Green or Jimmy Butler or LMA or Cousins. The cupboard was bare. I would've liked Phil to get a first rounder or two for Tyson, Shump, JR, but their values were all very low. If he had waited to blow it up, maybe we don't get a top 5 pick.

Melo always seems to think he's one move away. Melo is a bad GM. I'm glad Phil didn't let him run the draft.

You don't have to win it all..Just get into the second round and make some noise and see what u get next year..oh well..let the drama begin..

holfresh wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

holfresh wrote:I gotta admit..I was thinking Melo, cap space, a good draft pick..Love, maybe Aldridge, can we pry Cousins away from SAC..Wow..Those dreams didn't last long..We are the Knicks..

I was trying to say this early on - the Knicks were never one or two moves away to build a true contender. We were never getting Draymond Green or Jimmy Butler or LMA or Cousins. The cupboard was bare. I would've liked Phil to get a first rounder or two for Tyson, Shump, JR, but their values were all very low. If he had waited to blow it up, maybe we don't get a top 5 pick.

Melo always seems to think he's one move away. Melo is a bad GM. I'm glad Phil didn't let him run the draft.

You don't have to win it all..Just get into the second round and make some noise and see what u get next year..oh well..let the drama begin..

Look bottom line - Phil got here and realized how much he disliked this team and how it was built. He said a year or so before he showed up that it was a "clumsily constructed roster". So he tore it down. You would think he sold Melo on that. But maybe the pressure to re-sign Melo was too high and he told him he thought they could contend while rebuilding. And I think Phil really thought they could. He was saying they would make the playoffs last October. He had hopes for Tim and Shump. But then he watched them fumble around for three months and knew it had to be more drastic than that. When he gave away JR and Shump it was clear he was going for a top pick and more than just a "reload" - it would have to be a full rebuild. And you can't really do that in one season.

holfresh wrote:I gotta admit..I was thinking Melo, cap space, a good draft pick..Love, maybe Aldridge, can we pry Cousins away from SAC..Wow..Those dreams didn't last long..We are the Knicks..

I bet we could get Cousins for Melo. Send him back to Karl

nixluva wrote:Melo will either deny or apologize for the comments. He has to wait for the season to show he can play before he can ever expect a trade to be worked out. It would take time to work something out and by then he would probably have calmed down and saw that things weren't that bad. SAS is an ass. One draft pick doesn't indicate that Phil wouldn't be able to bring in vet help for Melo. No matter who we drafted they'd be about the same age and rookies except for seniors like Kaminsky and Jerian. This is just a foolish reaction to a draft pick. We still have Free Agency coming up.

Bottom line - Melo knows both SAS and Isola. They wouldn't have reported this without his consent on some level.

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:Melo will either deny or apologize for the comments. He has to wait for the season to show he can play before he can ever expect a trade to be worked out. It would take time to work something out and by then he would probably have calmed down and saw that things weren't that bad. SAS is an ass. One draft pick doesn't indicate that Phil wouldn't be able to bring in vet help for Melo. No matter who we drafted they'd be about the same age and rookies except for seniors like Kaminsky and Jerian. This is just a foolish reaction to a draft pick. We still have Free Agency coming up.

Bottom line - Melo knows both SAS and Isola. They wouldn't have reported this without his consent on some level.

So who was Melo's choice for #4? And would he really be torn up about THJ? Why?

DrAlphaeus wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:Melo will either deny or apologize for the comments. He has to wait for the season to show he can play before he can ever expect a trade to be worked out. It would take time to work something out and by then he would probably have calmed down and saw that things weren't that bad. SAS is an ass. One draft pick doesn't indicate that Phil wouldn't be able to bring in vet help for Melo. No matter who we drafted they'd be about the same age and rookies except for seniors like Kaminsky and Jerian. This is just a foolish reaction to a draft pick. We still have Free Agency coming up.

Bottom line - Melo knows both SAS and Isola. They wouldn't have reported this without his consent on some level.

So who was Melo's choice for #4? And would he really be torn up about THJ? Why?

Made the young PG comment, this most recent thing, and was seen in photos with Winslow and OK4.

OK4 was not their at 4.

He wanted Winslow, who he took to a Yankee game and taught the basics of the NYC market and proper branding etiquette.

WaltLongmire wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:Melo will either deny or apologize for the comments. He has to wait for the season to show he can play before he can ever expect a trade to be worked out. It would take time to work something out and by then he would probably have calmed down and saw that things weren't that bad. SAS is an ass. One draft pick doesn't indicate that Phil wouldn't be able to bring in vet help for Melo. No matter who we drafted they'd be about the same age and rookies except for seniors like Kaminsky and Jerian. This is just a foolish reaction to a draft pick. We still have Free Agency coming up.

Bottom line - Melo knows both SAS and Isola. They wouldn't have reported this without his consent on some level.

So who was Melo's choice for #4? And would he really be torn up about THJ? Why?

Made the young PG comment, this most recent thing, and was seen in photos with Winslow and OK4.

OK4 was not their at 4.

He wanted Winslow, who he took to a Yankee game and taught the basics of the NYC market and proper branding etiquette.