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NardDogNation
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6/24/2015  4:12 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:If they take Calderon and add Green I'd think about it.

I'm a big Gary Harris fan. If they add him and take Calderon, I'd gladly accept. I think that Harris has enough skill and talent to be our PG of the future. With the 7th, I'd take Hezonja and call it a day.

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6/24/2015  4:13 PM
Solace wrote:I don't know him well enough to form an opinion, but the injury concerns me. Knowing the Knicks history, I wouldn't risk it.

The 7th pick and dumping Calderon should be more than enough incentive to make it happen.

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6/24/2015  4:31 PM
That injury would have me worried. Petalla tendon is your knee cap. I would be concerned about his lateral movement, he could turn into a plodder. I did a a complete tear of my petalla tendon.
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6/24/2015  4:37 PM
No more trading unless we are getting another first rounder and another good piece
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6/24/2015  4:55 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:No more trading unless we are getting another first rounder and another good piece

Nurkic is the 1st rounder

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6/24/2015  5:01 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:No more trading unless we are getting another first rounder and another good piece

Nurkic is the 1st rounder

7th pick you can still get an impact player. We have so many holes it's not critical to us.
Nurkic is a 1st round quality big.

It's like getting 2 first round picks for 1.

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6/24/2015  5:42 PM
blkexec wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:No more trading unless we are getting another first rounder and another good piece

Nurkic is the 1st rounder

7th pick you can still get an impact player. We have so many holes it's not critical to us.
Nurkic is a 1st round quality big.

It's like getting 2 first round picks for 1.

I dunno, damaged goods unless Knicks are certain he can be healthy. I would need a future 1st in addition to give up #4 in this year's draft.

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6/24/2015  5:57 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
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JamaicanJetFan wrote:Trading the #4 for Nurkic and then nabbing Hezonja with the #7 pick just became my dream scenario.

I can't say with a healthy Nurkic that that doesn't sound great. Hezonja might be a star.

I was hearing that Hezonja might not be a good fit with Melo. Thoughts on this?


I think Hezonja want to be the alpha dog.

Not sure Phil would want him, though. Don't think he's disciplined enough.

Boy has some talent though, and I don't think he's afraid of anything.


I think the kid is gonna be a great player in the NBA but he's gonna rub his teammates the wrong way so i'm not saying i wouldn't want him but i would hope Phil and his team have a good interview with him if they did.

He's the real mystery man of the draft, especially since he has not been able to make it over yet.

He's a guy fans will pay to watch, I think.

I would love to hear Jackson's thoughts on him after the draft is over.

I don't think we've even talked to him at all though right?? I haven't heard his name brought up with the Knicks at all. The kid has serious talents and he dam sure does know it and will straight up tell you from what they're saying.

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6/24/2015  6:03 PM
who would take at 7?
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6/24/2015  6:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2015  6:14 PM
jbeachboy wrote:who would take at 7?

OMG I hope its not Trey Lyles. Keep to WCS Kaminsky Turner jesus dont reach for a 15-18 pick moving back from 4--that would b e the WORST move we can make. A PF who does NOT block shots cant hit 3's who has questionable athletic ability and was certainly a spare part on that team. Trey Lyles has bust potential Id rather take several other players. He does not do one thing great--WORST type of player for a team controlling spot 4. Atleast WCS blocks shots

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6/24/2015  7:36 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:who would take at 7?

OMG I hope its not Trey Lyles. Keep to WCS Kaminsky Turner jesus dont reach for a 15-18 pick moving back from 4--that would b e the WORST move we can make. A PF who does NOT block shots cant hit 3's who has questionable athletic ability and was certainly a spare part on that team. Trey Lyles has bust potential Id rather take several other players. He does not do one thing great--WORST type of player for a team controlling spot 4. Atleast WCS blocks shots


I watched Inside College Basketball on CBS Sports tonight and they were saying T.Lyles is moving up draft boards and into the top 12 on a lot of teams boards. There has been a lot of talk about how he was another player hidden on that deep Kentucky team and they had the kid playing small forward so this kid could be a steal in the draft.
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6/24/2015  7:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2015  7:39 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:who would take at 7?

OMG I hope its not Trey Lyles. Keep to WCS Kaminsky Turner jesus dont reach for a 15-18 pick moving back from 4--that would b e the WORST move we can make. A PF who does NOT block shots cant hit 3's who has questionable athletic ability and was certainly a spare part on that team. Trey Lyles has bust potential Id rather take several other players. He does not do one thing great--WORST type of player for a team controlling spot 4. Atleast WCS blocks shots


I watched Inside College Basketball on CBS Sports tonight and they were saying T.Lyles is moving up draft boards and into the top 12 on a lot of teams boards. There has been a lot of talk about how he was another player hidden on that deep Kentucky team and they had the kid playing small forward so this kid could be a steal in the draft.

Thats funny because CBS has him ranked around 18. Can you provide a link to the show because the median spot for Lyles is roughly 15. You dont give up pick #4 for a guy who could fall through the draft to 20-22.

hhttp://ttp://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/mock-draft

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6/24/2015  7:38 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:who would take at 7?

OMG I hope its not Trey Lyles. Keep to WCS Kaminsky Turner jesus dont reach for a 15-18 pick moving back from 4--that would b e the WORST move we can make. A PF who does NOT block shots cant hit 3's who has questionable athletic ability and was certainly a spare part on that team. Trey Lyles has bust potential Id rather take several other players. He does not do one thing great--WORST type of player for a team controlling spot 4. Atleast WCS blocks shots


I watched Inside College Basketball on CBS Sports tonight and they were saying T.Lyles is moving up draft boards and into the top 12 on a lot of teams boards. There has been a lot of talk about how he was another player hidden on that deep Kentucky team and they had the kid playing small forward so this kid could be a steal in the draft.
SBNation blog on him being the steal of the draft. I don't have the link but if you search for him on twitter it will come up.
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6/24/2015  7:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2015  7:43 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:who would take at 7?

OMG I hope its not Trey Lyles. Keep to WCS Kaminsky Turner jesus dont reach for a 15-18 pick moving back from 4--that would b e the WORST move we can make. A PF who does NOT block shots cant hit 3's who has questionable athletic ability and was certainly a spare part on that team. Trey Lyles has bust potential Id rather take several other players. He does not do one thing great--WORST type of player for a team controlling spot 4. Atleast WCS blocks shots


I watched Inside College Basketball on CBS Sports tonight and they were saying T.Lyles is moving up draft boards and into the top 12 on a lot of teams boards. There has been a lot of talk about how he was another player hidden on that deep Kentucky team and they had the kid playing small forward so this kid could be a steal in the draft.
SBNation blog on him being the steal of the draft. I don't have the link but if you search for him on twitter it will come up.

There will be opinions but the median opinion is around the middle of rd 1. He is no elite athlete he did not shoot 3's well and his defense was the worst on that team. Marcus Lee Alex Protheys Willie Stein Towns and Dakari Johnson were all better defenders on that team.

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6/24/2015  7:48 PM
Jay Bilas has Trey Lyles at 15 Chad Ford has him at 18 Draftxpress has him at 13 CBS has him at 18 and there is fair reason for that--hes not a two way player--hes not position ready--he lacks explosion--go look at explosive ability of Myles Turner who is ranked higher on every board as is Kaminsky. And exactly what would be trading down for? a Guy with a patella tendon injury who may never be the same?
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6/24/2015  7:48 PM
I think if Nurkic is 100% OK then the Nuggets wouldn't be so eager to do this trade. I guess we'll see but I don't trust it.
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6/24/2015  7:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2015  7:54 PM
Solace wrote:I think if Nurkic is 100% OK then the Nuggets wouldn't be so eager to do this trade. I guess we'll see but I don't trust it.

Of course not! You know who had a Patella tendon injury--Mcdyess he came back and his knee shattered. Its a TOUGH injury. Id love to have Nurkic but thats a bthc of an injury. Stay at 4 and take Hezonja Porzingis Mudiay or Kaminsky. Were going to watch a star on another team if w e do this.

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6/24/2015  7:59 PM
No more injury risks. We are trying to build through the draft, no need to suddenly revert back to trading picks for hasbeens ad won'tbes
He was a good player with good potential now he is a question mark. We have a top 5 pick and no question marks.

I understand and often advocate for risk taking, but this is not a good use of our resources. Difference between a 4 and a 7 is a game changer and a role player.

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6/24/2015  8:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2015  8:11 PM
This is explosion motor and length. Thats why he blocked nearly 3 shots a game and Lyles less than .05

And go read about Turner--he only had a few workouts and ripped everyone he went up against.

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6/24/2015  8:15 PM
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WaltLongmire wrote:How to folks see him as a player?

"Big Monster" pivot in the mold of Pekovic. True space eater. Has the disposition to outright bang. Nothing soft about this guy.

Problem with space eater types is they will classically lose about 20 games a year to injury.

It's always amusing because there's always some young player, typically an American One And Done, who was used to dominating on every level on pure athleticism, and will take for granted that most Euros are not pure bangers. Then a guy like Nurkic will drive that dumb SOB right into the ground.

NY will love him, thus Melo will always secretly hate him ( Can't have anyone cheering for anyone else in a Knicks uniform except Melo, lest Jimmy Dolan gets voicemail pleas from Leon Rose of CAA to do something so Melo will stop screaming at him long enough for LaLa to start screaming at him about why he doesn't have a bigger shoe deal.

They would be getting Nurkic, if this is a true rumor, in Year 2 of his rookie deal.

It would be nice to see a Knick actually feared on defense for once. It would also be nice to see someone in a Knick's uniform actually be willing to give up his body to bang it out in the post for once. ( Our Hasidic Renaissance Man in STAT would never do something like... uh...try on defense... why break a sweat when you have a film festival to go to while wearing a giant curtain? )

If the deal is there, I say take it.

All good information but still a question mark due to injury. PASS

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