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Knicks president Phil Jackson 'not happy' about Isiah Thomas' return to the Garden
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mreinman
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5/17/2015  10:35 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:If we are serious about making a push during the Melo era and the triangle, we need interior defense, post play and post presence, wing players to handle the ball and shoot the three, outside shooting PG and more defenders..Kaminsky is like 12th on that list of top 10 needs...

Yeah i'm with you on Kaminsky. I like the kid and think he'll be a decent player in the NBA and i think offensively he fits the triangle, but he won't give us anything that we need on defense, so i understand how people like him but people on here act like they know sooooo much about basketball and who will be what in the NBA but they can't even figure out that he can't give us what we need defensively.....GEESH.

I think Kaminsky from the 4 will provide fine defense.can you point me to video of Frank playing poor defense or is it that he's a white guy from the usa?

that does not help. White guys from the USA do not exactly have a great track record as defenders.

name some who played recently

Who is the pro analyst saying Kaminsky is a bs defender. Show me some video evidence. Just to say kaminsky can't defend wreaks of racism because it's not based on play.

is it racism to say that tall scoring US born white guys are good defenders?

They rarely are.

Name some:

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/17/2015  10:38 PM
mreinman wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:If we are serious about making a push during the Melo era and the triangle, we need interior defense, post play and post presence, wing players to handle the ball and shoot the three, outside shooting PG and more defenders..Kaminsky is like 12th on that list of top 10 needs...

Yeah i'm with you on Kaminsky. I like the kid and think he'll be a decent player in the NBA and i think offensively he fits the triangle, but he won't give us anything that we need on defense, so i understand how people like him but people on here act like they know sooooo much about basketball and who will be what in the NBA but they can't even figure out that he can't give us what we need defensively.....GEESH.

I think Kaminsky from the 4 will provide fine defense.can you point me to video of Frank playing poor defense or is it that he's a white guy from the usa?

that does not help. White guys from the USA do not exactly have a great track record as defenders.

name some who played recently

Who is the pro analyst saying Kaminsky is a bs defender. Show me some video evidence. Just to say kaminsky can't defend wreaks of racism because it's not based on play.

is it racism to say that tall scoring US born white guys are good defenders?

They rarely are.

Name some:


There are plenty of them. Too many to list . I'm asking to see video of frank kaminsky playing bad defense
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mreinman
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5/17/2015  10:50 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:If we are serious about making a push during the Melo era and the triangle, we need interior defense, post play and post presence, wing players to handle the ball and shoot the three, outside shooting PG and more defenders..Kaminsky is like 12th on that list of top 10 needs...

Yeah i'm with you on Kaminsky. I like the kid and think he'll be a decent player in the NBA and i think offensively he fits the triangle, but he won't give us anything that we need on defense, so i understand how people like him but people on here act like they know sooooo much about basketball and who will be what in the NBA but they can't even figure out that he can't give us what we need defensively.....GEESH.

I think Kaminsky from the 4 will provide fine defense.can you point me to video of Frank playing poor defense or is it that he's a white guy from the usa?

that does not help. White guys from the USA do not exactly have a great track record as defenders.

name some who played recently

Who is the pro analyst saying Kaminsky is a bs defender. Show me some video evidence. Just to say kaminsky can't defend wreaks of racism because it's not based on play.

is it racism to say that tall scoring US born white guys are good defenders?

They rarely are.

Name some:


There are plenty of them. Too many to list . I'm asking to see video of frank kaminsky playing bad defense

seriously?

you could not come up with 5 recent players?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/18/2015  1:06 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/18/2015  1:08 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:If we are serious about making a push during the Melo era and the triangle, we need interior defense, post play and post presence, wing players to handle the ball and shoot the three, outside shooting PG and more defenders..Kaminsky is like 12th on that list of top 10 needs...

Yeah i'm with you on Kaminsky. I like the kid and think he'll be a decent player in the NBA and i think offensively he fits the triangle, but he won't give us anything that we need on defense, so i understand how people like him but people on here act like they know sooooo much about basketball and who will be what in the NBA but they can't even figure out that he can't give us what we need defensively.....GEESH.

I think Kaminsky from the 4 will provide fine defense.can you point me to video of Frank playing poor defense or is it that he's a white guy from the usa?

No video but this is what draftnet says:

Weaknesses: The most obvious one is his subpar level of athleticism and lateral movement, but one of the main concerns with him ironically is on offense ... It’s possible to find a role for him defensively where he won’t be exploited, he has length after all, but will he be able to succeed in an offensive system different from the one he thrives in at Wisconsin? The fact that he struggled so mightily in the wide open format in front of so many scouts at adidas Nations in the summer has to be a conern ... Theoretically he is the perfect guy to play in the triangle offense, in a way that maybe only Pau Gasol did, and certainly he could find his place an offense like the Spurs (every high IQ player could) ... But could he survive in more ISO oriented offenses where he will not have the ball in his hands much? A lot will depend on his consistency shooting, the percentages show us he is improving but the NBA 3 pointer is a different animal and though the high release will help Kaminsky a lot in shooting over people, his release is pretty slow and could be a problem ... The talent is there but he has to show he can use it at the next level, and his limited upside (because he is already almost at the top of his game) and older age might scare some team away (Tyler Zeller was a much better/faster athlete and he fell to 20 as a senior, and has been traded)... Another big question mark is how will he deal with NBA physicality on both ends of the floor ... He could potentially guard 5s but only if he adds strength to his body, while the 4 position could be too fast and explosive for him ... And on offense people may push him out of the blocks too easily ... The fact that he didn;t really do anything in his first two seasons in college is also a slight concern. Is he just a late bloomer, or is he taking advantage of players younger than himself as an upperclassman? ... All that being said, we are talking about a player with a rare set of skills, who in the right system could utilize his abilities and become a great role player ...

Knicks president Phil Jackson 'not happy' about Isiah Thomas' return to the Garden

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