Zeke is Back My main man Zeke is Back. Security if Phil Jackson Leaves.

gunsnewing wrote:There will never be another James Arthur Dolan. His name is not Arthur but I made it up anyway

reminiscent of donald arthur mattingly?

That whole A.Browne was bullsh1t anyway.

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:For the record, MSG owns the Liberty. Not the knicks.
FOr the record, James dolan is a phuching idiot!
The guy that got slapped with a sexual harrassment suit and guilty is your guy to run a womens league franchise.
Next, put Mike Tyson in charge of the dancers?
Technically Im over his tenure as a Knick but why in gods name does he not ask anyone if this is a good idea?
Whats next, an extension for Billy King as GM of Nets?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237686/Billy-King-Could-Be-Close-To-Extension-With-Nets
Billy King Could Be Close To Extension With Nets

Billy King could be on the cusp of signing a contract extension with the Brooklyn Nets.

King became general manager of the Nets in 2010.

The front office dynamics of the Nets appears to be in some level of turmoil as they did not pick up their option on the contract of Bobby Marks. Marks has been with the Nets for 20 years and is expert on cap matters.

I knew this as I wrote my post yesterday. Many times I have taken a position that when an owner drives a decision he owns it and won't throw his exec under the bus. IN fact, if the Exec takes the task and attempts to execute while making the point its not the correct course the GM gains further respect. This is I believe what happened in Washington with Grunfeld letting his owner know that a youth only rebuild can be problematic. When they bought in veteran leadership 2 years ago it marked a turnaround there. Billy King I doubt has the decision making to spend and cause tax havoc on the franchise with either the blessing of the owner, or more likely the owner is was driving the decision to starphuch and make a grab for NY market share when it entered brooklyn.
Bobby Marks not coming back could be for many reasons not disclosed. We can't just assume this guy was golden and evil has forced him out. It could be as simple as a guy wanting to leave and thus was not renewed by his request. Maybe there are articles that expand on this?

Im not here to say "Billy king did a good job" but in light of Isiah's return to MSG it need be discussed that Dolan in my mind empowered Isiah with a directive that defined his tenure. What if Dolan said "Keep it in the cap and rebuild with youth"? "How ever long it takes, lets create something". Or "OMG, this place is dead and I want to renovate so keep bringing in talent that excites!!! REVENUE IS THE KEY!!!". Thus, Dolan holds himself responsible. Now, please understand I think Isiah is the scum of the earth but there has to be reason why Dolan remained loyal to him other than Dolans characteristic of being very attached to some people.

I don't like Isiah anywhere near the knicks but I am suspicious that Isiah has rehabilitated himself from what I don't know and Dolan just is drawn to giving guys a second chance. Its kind of endearing really. But we talking about Isiah.

For now, Phil's in charge and until he is not Im not gonna worry about it. Until isiah is no longer of this earth his resurrection was/is always possible.

Nalod wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:For the record, MSG owns the Liberty. Not the knicks.
FOr the record, James dolan is a phuching idiot!
The guy that got slapped with a sexual harrassment suit and guilty is your guy to run a womens league franchise.
Next, put Mike Tyson in charge of the dancers?
Technically Im over his tenure as a Knick but why in gods name does he not ask anyone if this is a good idea?
Whats next, an extension for Billy King as GM of Nets?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237686/Billy-King-Could-Be-Close-To-Extension-With-Nets
Billy King Could Be Close To Extension With Nets

Billy King could be on the cusp of signing a contract extension with the Brooklyn Nets.

King became general manager of the Nets in 2010.

The front office dynamics of the Nets appears to be in some level of turmoil as they did not pick up their option on the contract of Bobby Marks. Marks has been with the Nets for 20 years and is expert on cap matters.

I knew this as I wrote my post yesterday. Many times I have taken a position that when an owner drives a decision he owns it and won't throw his exec under the bus. IN fact, if the Exec takes the task and attempts to execute while making the point its not the correct course the GM gains further respect. This is I believe what happened in Washington with Grunfeld letting his owner know that a youth only rebuild can be problematic. When they bought in veteran leadership 2 years ago it marked a turnaround there. Billy King I doubt has the decision making to spend and cause tax havoc on the franchise with either the blessing of the owner, or more likely the owner is was driving the decision to starphuch and make a grab for NY market share when it entered brooklyn.
Bobby Marks not coming back could be for many reasons not disclosed. We can't just assume this guy was golden and evil has forced him out. It could be as simple as a guy wanting to leave and thus was not renewed by his request. Maybe there are articles that expand on this?

Im not here to say "Billy king did a good job" but in light of Isiah's return to MSG it need be discussed that Dolan in my mind empowered Isiah with a directive that defined his tenure. What if Dolan said "Keep it in the cap and rebuild with youth"? "How ever long it takes, lets create something". Or "OMG, this place is dead and I want to renovate so keep bringing in talent that excites!!! REVENUE IS THE KEY!!!". Thus, Dolan holds himself responsible. Now, please understand I think Isiah is the scum of the earth but there has to be reason why Dolan remained loyal to him other than Dolans characteristic of being very attached to some people.

I don't like Isiah anywhere near the knicks but I am suspicious that Isiah has rehabilitated himself from what I don't know and Dolan just is drawn to giving guys a second chance. Its kind of endearing really. But we talking about Isiah.

For now, Phil's in charge and until he is not Im not gonna worry about it. Until isiah is no longer of this earth his resurrection was/is always possible.

I have always thought the best move for the Nets were to do the anti-Knick thing when they moved...So many fans were dissatisfied with the constant starphuck with the Knicks..They might have been able to draw fans just on starting something new and fresh..They should have rebuilt and would have gotten lucky if they picked Liliard..I was always surprised at the way Dolan defended Isiah during that Annucha Brown scandal, he could have just settled initially without making a big splash of it..Then when NBA TV hired Isiah, I thought there might be more to the story than we know..My thinking is why would the NBA allow Isiah near their brand given the sensitivities of the day when it comes to women issues in the workplaces and particularly sexual harassment...Maybe I'm over thinking this..

Is this Dolan sticking his toe in the waters again with meddling hiring Isiah so close to the draft, hanging around MSG..Dolan thinks Isiah knows young talent..Maybe he can help Phil??..who knows??..Gotta to say it's strange but then again, it's Dolan..

H1AND1 wrote:There is a fox in the hen house. Watch out.

Bad move by PR.

Really hope it doesn't go down this way but it wouldn't surprise me if it did.

Isiah Thomas is nestled once again in the warm, welcoming nest of James Dolan's Madison Square Garden, this time as president of the WNBA's New York Liberty. Hiring Thomas -- found by a federal court in 2007 to have intentionally discriminated against former MSG executive Anucha Browne Sanders because she was female -- to run a women's professional basketball team owned by the same company (or any company) is the height of tone-deaf hypocrisy. Thomas made the media rounds Wednesday, spreading the false gospel that he wasn't found responsible in the infamous sexual harassment case against MSG (he was) and that he didn't trade draft picks that turned into, among others, LaMarcus Aldridge, Joakim Noah and Gordon Hayward for Eddy Curry (he did exactly that). Meanwhile, Phil Jackson is laughing all the way to the bank with his $60 million guaranteed contract, which is the kind of money that Thomas used to throw at guys who couldn't play as well as Jackson could now at age 69. Fun times, as usual, at MSG.